Monday, October 6, 2014

White House Upset that Netanyahu allows Jews to build in Israel

What's up with this Obama? 
Why can't a Jew build in Israel? Are they insane? Upset because Netanyahu allows Jews to build in their own country?
I understand the EU is against Jews living in parts of Israel; they were also against Jews living in Europe. 

The Euro-Pishers are responsible of millions and millions of Jews being slaughtered over 2 thousand year period. Anti-Semitism is in their cursed blood. But America??
If we Jews would all be united, we could, as a group tell the USA to back off, but unfortunately, we have our own groups, like Peace Now, Reform Rabbis, J Street, self-hating Jews, bleeding heart liberals and Satmar that agree with this ludicrous idea that parts of Israel should be Judenrein!

We make asifas against the internet, and asifas against serving in the Jewish army, and thousands show up, but no one wants to make an asifa when Israel is under attack!

Last week there was a local election in the Monsey, Spring Valley, New Hempstead areas, and it was a referendum on whether the residents are in favor of the "Ward System." 
To make a long story short, if the "Ward System" would be put in place, the Heimishe Oilim would have less influence in the running of the Town! If there would be less influence, the local zoning laws would be enforced and the Yiddilich wouldn't be able to place 40 families in a single family home!
So Agudath Israel of America got involved with local Monsey politics, to guarantee that people come and vote against the "Ward System." 
Where the are they now? Is the blood of Jews living in Israel less valued than the blood of Monsey Jews?
In Monsey its "Pikuach Nefesh" to allow 1,000 people to live on one block, but it's not "Pikuach Nefesh" to have more housing in Israel?
Do you know my friends, that if a goy in Israel is ready to sell a house in Israel, and he wants to go to contract on Shabbos, there is a mitzvah, yes, a mitzvah to be Mechalel Shabbos and go to contract on Shabbos! Absolutely!!!
This is paskened L'halacha!

Jerusalem is under Israeli rule. As such it can build. There's nothing else to it. It's not like they're building in Ramallah or any other town that is under Arabic rule. 
Maybe the U.S. Should stop building in California,Texas, New Mecico or any other land that Mexico lost in the war! I'm sure the Mexicans would love their land back! The Arabs were dumb enough to start a war with Israel and lost their part of Jerusalem. That's just too bad! 
Bottom line: when America stops building in Texas Israel will stop in Jerusalem.

The White House rejected criticism from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with a withering response on Monday, accusing him of refusing to acknowledge how much help the United States has been to Israel over the years.

A long-time split between President Barack Obama and Netanyahu appeared to widen further after the Israeli leader’s visit to the White House last week.
Netanyahu, on the CBS program “Face the Nation” on Sunday, said U.S. criticism of an Israeli move for a new Jewish settlement in East Jerusalem was “against American values.”
At his daily briefing, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said: “It did seem odd for him to try to defend the actions of his government by saying our response did not reflect American values.
“The fact is American policy has been clear and unchanged under several administrations, both Democrat and Republican.”
Earnest added: “We oppose any unilateral actions that attempt to prejudge final status issues including the status of Jerusalem. These can only be legitimately determined through direct negotiations through the parties that this president has worked hard to try to facilitate.”


Is that so? said...

be Mechalel Shabbos and go to contract on Shabbos! Absolutely!!!
This is paskened L'halacha!


Dusiznies said...

To 4:30

Is that so? said...

What's the mareh makom in Rambam?

Dusiznies said...

I'm at work and don't have Rambam with me...
Meanwhile just to keep u thinking:
The greatness of the mitzvah of "Yishuv Eretz Yisroel" is that it is the only mitzvah that pushes aside prohibitions on Shabbos (i.e. shvus-to tell a non Jew to perform certain forbidden acts on Shabbos for your own benefit). It is permissible to push aside shvus in order to buy land in Israel from a non Jew on Shabbos (as explained in Gitin 8,b and Baba Kama 80,b see Tosafot there)

Anonymous said...

Based on the Shiurim Given by

Rabbi Dovid
Ostroff, shlita
developed from the Chabura of the
Pirchei Shoshanim Shulchan Aruch Learning Project

These Halachos were shown by Rabbi Ostroff to
HaGaon HaRav Moshe Sternbuch, shlita

What exactly is permitted on Shabbos, when buying a house in Eretz Yisrael?

The gemora in Gittin 8b says that even though one is rabbinically prohibited to tell a gentile to violate an issur on Shabbos, nevertheless, when it comes to buying a house in Eretz Yisrael it is permitted. The case involved in the gemora concerns the person who had already purchased a house from a gentile, but the deed had not yet been certified in court. The gemora says that since it involves the mitzvah of yishuv Eretz Yisrael (settling the land of Israel) one may instruct a gentile to draw up the contract and have it certified in a gentile court. The only prohibition involved is 'amira l'akum' (instructing a gentile) which may be waived in face of the mitzvah of yishuv Eretz Yisrael.

I have heard though that much more is permitted when it concerns the purchase of a house in Eretz Yisrael?

It is a fallacy. The Mechaber [1] says that one may purchase a house from a gentile in Eretz Yisrael and have the deed signed and certified in court. The Mishna Berura [2] explains that one may direct the gentile to where the Jew’s money is and the gentile can sign and certify the sale but the Jew may not handle the money and give it to the gentile.

We see that even though handling money is only an issur of muktze, nevertheless one may not handle money in order to make the purchase.

Anonymous said...

Life in Israel*****************
The gemara in gittin says that on Shabbos a Jew is allowed to buy a house form a non-Jew in Eretz Yisrael. The reason is that it is such an important thing to buy the house form a non-Jew because of the mitzva of yishuv eretz yisrael.
In practical halacha it seems to be a bit more complicated, as there are different opinions as to what is actually allowed to be done on Shabbos. It seems only rabbinic laws can be forgone in the purchase on Shabbos, such as telling a non-Jew to sign the papers. Others say that it is so important it is like a part of a milchemet mitzva and anything can be done on Shabbos to successfully acquire the house away form the non-Jew.

While not quite the same level of prohibition or allowance, Rav Elyashiv has recently paskened, according to reports on Kikar, that because the housing crisis has gotten so bad one would be allowed to buy a house during the 9 Days if the opportunity despite the fact that it causes such great happiness.

Dusiznies said...

"We see that even though handling money is only an issur of muktze, nevertheless one may not handle money in order to make the purchase."

I don't have my seforim with me ... but R'Ovadia Yosef & The Tziz Eliezer both disagree with this Mishna Berura...
and being that R' Ovadia & The Tziz Eliezer lived in Eretz Yisroel and the fact that they were later poskim, we paskin like the latter poiskim andthe psak is that one can handle any shvus which includes money to buy a house from Goyim in Israel.

Anonymous said...

I'm really agreeing with you but just pointing out a possible problem by some . This article makes the main point that a sale could be made on Shabbos

Dusiznies said...

ALL agree that a sale of a house or land in Israel, from a non-jew to a Jew can be made on Shabbos, the dis-agreement is only in handling the money.
The MB holds that money cannot be handled by a Jew, but the Jew can point out to the non jew where the money is, and the other poskim hold, that the Jew can even handle the money on Shabbos.