Before you read the article, which is after the break ....I have a question....How many Frum Seminary girls know about the Holocaust ....? HMMM????
How about a lot less than the Americans surveyed... percentage wise .....
I'm not talking about grandchildren of survivors ....who have a kesher with their grandparents..
Did you know that the Yeshivisha Girl Seminaries in Israel do not take their students to Yad Ve'Shem?
It's Chazer Treif..... according to the self appointed money grubbing "menhalim & menehalot" .....
Why? You ask..... ?
Because it portrays more of the "less frum" survivors than the "frum" survivors ....
First of all .... who cares....???
The Nazis threw the Not Frum Jews in with the Frum Jews in the same ovens ...
They didn't discriminate ....
But the frummies do discriminate .... if a not frum guy survived and tells his story in Yad Ve'shem then that is not good enough for them.....that's not a "daas Torah" story .....
Crazy?
It's gets crazier!
Who stopped the frummies from telling their stories to Yad Ve'shem????
Aha! Now we are getting very close ....
The Rabbanim didn't want to give any credence or legitimacy to any Zionist Institutions even if it dealt with dead Jews! ....
Years later when the frummies saw that Yad Ve'shem was a respected institution and the entire world was respecting the Museum ...and they saw that the survivors .... the frum survivors .... flocking to the museum, donating artifacts from pre WW2 which they managed to hide, the "askanim" went immediately into high gear to get the frum stories included...
But it was too little and too late ....
and so they started a campaign to get at least Rav Weissmandel's story in ....
which should have been there all along...and they managed to have it included and that is now a prominent display
but whose fault was that ...?
The lying frummies blame this on the Zionists ...
I have a grandaughter in one of the Israeli semenaries and she told me that more than half of the frum girls from frum families had very little to zero knowledge of the Holocaust ..and they could care less......
Half of American adults are unaware of basic facts regarding Nazism and the Holocaust, including the number of Jews who were killed and how Nazis came to power.
Those are some of the findings of a new study by the Pew Research Center released on Tuesday, about a week ahead of the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. The study asked nearly 13,000 respondents, Jewish and non-Jewish adults and teenagers, four questions about the Holocaust.
Most knew that the Holocaust took place between 1930 and 1950, and that Nazi ghettos were areas of cities where Jews were forced to live.
But only 45 percent knew that 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust. About 12 percent each thought that the number was lower or higher, and 29 percent did not know the answer. Among the teens, only 38 percent knew the number of Jews killed.Those numbers, however, are higher than those reported in a 1993 survey of U.S. adults commissioned by the American Jewish Committee. That survey found only 35 percent of adults knew the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust, and only a slim majority said the word “Holocaust” referred to the extermination of Jews — as opposed to 84 percent of U.S. adults in the Pew survey.
In the Pew study, 43 percent of the American adults knew that Adolf Hitler became chancellor of Germany through a democratic process. A quarter of adults thought Hitler came to power through violence and another 25 percent did not know. Only a third of the teenage respondents, ages 13 to 17, knew Hitler assumed the position democratically.
Overall, in the Pew study, nearly half of the adults knew the answers to three or four of the questions, while 16 to 18 percent knew the answers to zero, one or two questions. Teens answered all four questions correctly at lower rates than adults. College graduates answered all four questions correctly at above-average rates.
Jewish respondents to the Pew survey answered all the questions correctly at higher rates than the overall sample. Ninety percent knew the era when the Holocaust happened, 86 percent defined ghettos correctly and knew 6 million Jews were killed, and 57 percent knew that Hitler became chancellor democratically.
The survey was conducted in February 2019 with a total sample of 10,971 U.S. adults. The total sample had a margin of error of 1.5 percent, while the Jewish sample of 429 respondents had a margin of error of 8.6 percent. The teens were surveyed in March and April 2019, and the total sample of 1,811 had a margin of error of 3.1 percent.
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You are not tackling the whole story here. Rabbonim have publicly written that they would actually like to send kids to see Yad Vashem if they cut it out with their anti-frum hostility & cut it out with the toyeva propaganda. They do give credit that the org is not as hostile to the frumma as they used to be but there is still lots of room for improvement. Please don't deny the hostility as you well know that there are plenty of Chilonim who have an irrational hatred of bnai Torah. You must have yourself had at least a couple of run ins with these types somewhere in Israel.
I have a bad feeling that DIN is building up to something here like blowing the cover off my secret crush on Nancy.
Just don't you dare start while she's reading this, poking fun at me looking like a fat, pudgy midget when I march into the Senate alongside Adam Schitt. Oh crap! I tried to improve my image with new eyeglasses but I didn't know I was going to be set up with comparative photo shoots. It also makes it harder that way to hide that suits are poorly tailored & ill fitting.
Hey Ezra! I'll score you a few more glatt kosher steak dinners including waiter tip (but only 5%), now get to work with your PR babble!
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I am in Yad Ve'Shem at least once a week doing research on my family murdered in the camps ...
I would like you to tell which rabbanim wrote publicly they would "actually send kids to see Yad Ve'Shem?"
There is absolutely no "anti-frum hostility and any Toyeva propaganda" in the entire building in Yad Ve'shem...
Yes they show that the Nazis singled out gays ....but that is a fact ...... and I think that it is actually a good thing to publicize this ... absolutely .... so the "feiglach" can see that Hitler hated them not only because some of them were Jews but he hated gays .....
BTW very soon in Satmar cheder they will be teaching about gays ... since they take $$$$ from the government ..this is a requirement ...
Yes there are Chilonim in Israel that hate bnai-Torah ...
I'm not excusing them but they are very resentful that their children sacrifice their lives to protect chareidim ...
The approach that works is the Chabad approach to love every single Jew ...
I myself turned a Chilonie from hating us to actually loving us ...
If we embrace them they will see the light
but blocking traffic will not turn one single chilonie into a Shomer Torah Umitzvois....
Before they give mussar to chilonim they should clean up their own back yards ...where their own youth are going off the derech at an alarming rate ....
no no ..I'm not talking about the bnei torah that joined the army ...the majority lead torah lives
Im talking about the Chareidie boys that never joined the IDF
Yad Ve'shmem is a very important lesson for Jewish children ...
to never forget ... because if they forget this they will come to forget their entire heritage .... yes even Bais Yaakov Girls ...
when they visit Yad Ve'shem and they see how even Jews that married goyim were murdered and that the Nazis murdered yes those who committed "toeveih" also ....
they will see that the Tzaddik and the Baal Aveirah were thrown into the same ovens ...
maybe that's what they don't want the girls to see
This is not about frum or not frum... or what the founders of this Istitution felt about bnei Torah ...
Bnei Torah should be going to Yad Vashem and say thank you to the Chiloinie Chayallim that are protecting their fat tushies!
Rabbonim had an askan, Dr. Meir Wikler, research the problems with Yad Vashem. He wrote a lengthy piece in the Yated about it. He had specific examples of how the org's officials were anti-frum. How even the exhibits downplay bnai Torah being among the Kedoshim. And he detailed where improvements were already made.
The problem there with the Chomos is that they are not being lumped in the category where they belong, that Hitler wanted to exterminate chronic alcoholics, street hookers & Marxists. They are playing politically correct, which in this case is mamash disgusting, to portray Chomos as if they are some poor persecuted racial minority who everyone's heart should bleed for.
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