Tuesday, November 4, 2014

“Chareidim Are the Biggest ‘Reformers’”

Finally, a Rav with some Seichal. The "Gedolim" have changed the Torah to suit their agenda, and then they call those that oppose their idiotic ideology .... Apikorsim!
So read this "Bar-Seichel"
Rabbi Shlomo Riskin, Rabbi of Efrat in Gush Etzion and founder of Ohr Torah Stone, strongly criticized chareidi Knesset members today for their stance on the government’s conversion reforms.
Arutz Sheva reports that in an interview with Galei Yisrael radio, Rabbi Riskin defended the proposed government decision regarding conversion which would remove Chief Rabbinate supervision of the conversion process, and criticized its opponents.
“I do not understand the whole issue. Yes, I think there is a (Torah) commandment of ‘you shall love the convert.’ Yes, I think that the Chief Rabbinate until now did not know what it is to get someone who wants to convert treated properly, with love and care,” he fired. “How dare they say that my conversions were not done according to Jewish Law?”
In response the interviewer, attorney Dov Halberthal - who is himself chareidi - said, “They say it’s an issue of love replacing halacha.”
Rabbi Riskin replied, “It’s not ‘instead of halakha.’ The halakha itself talks about love. Don’t you know a very simple mishna: ‘be disciples of Aharon, loving peace and pursuing peace?’ Love people and bring them closer to Torah through love.”
Halberthal continued to respond, claiming that applies to “Jewish people and not the Gentiles,” but Rabbi Riskin retorted: “there is no place in where it says that ‘people’ means ‘Jews.’ It means ‘human beings’ - period.”
Halberthal then presented the position of many in the chareidi world that “neither the halacha nor the Jews want converts,” apparently interpreting the Jewish prerogative to warn converts against the hardships of being a Jew as meaning Judaism opposes conversion entirely - a sentiment to which Rabbi Riskin responded harshly.
“That is against the halakhic tradition! I’ll tell you, in my opinion the chareidim are the biggest ‘Reformers’, in many many things, including opposition enlistment into the army because ‘there is nothing but Talmud (study),” he said, in a dig at chareidi opposition which has claimed those supporting the bill align with the Reform movement.There is no (early halakhic authority) who says that learning Torah physically protects peoples’ lives,” he said, in a swipe at the hareidi position that yeshiva study should itself be considered national service.
“There is room for dissenting opinions in Judaism,” Riskin declared. “There is no one who says that their way is the only way in Judaism - to say so is to be Catholic and follow the Pope,” he exclaimed.
Read more: Arutz Sheva


Anonymous said...

A classic apukorus, with a twist, calling erliche yidden reformers, halacha is the deciding factor, not the maskilish dogma of twisting and bending the torah to fit the latest liberal lifestyle. The Shulchan Aruch is the book of Jewish law, nobody can change that, it has been so and will be so forevermore, and such silly sorry statements, coming from an imposter posing as a "Rav", and is really a "am haaretz" means nothing at all, he just joins the long chain of "Berliner Maskilim", whose descendants have long ago left klal yisroel, and that's what awaits him.

Anonymous said...

To 3:13 AM...

"....bending the torah to fit the latest liberal lifestyle..."

Guess you sobered up after Simchas Torah's Malaga drinkfest.

I see that the Shulchan Aruch, to your relief, says nothing about the Internet but surely it says to respect your "Daas Torah" who forbade you to plappel here.
If maskillim "left klal yisroel" it was mostly because of farchnyukte yachne LakeHood /Satmar know-it-all lovers like you.
It's about time someone kicks the megalomaniacal Chareidi control freaks and kudos to Rav Riskin.
I don't profess to know the conversion laws, but know that the process per Chareidim is demeaning. An American ger who became a Chabad told me years ago that as a young man he always had a fascination for Judaism. In short, he learned in an Israeli yeshiva then approached Rav Ovadia Yosef for conversion. Rav Yosef checked his resume then asked him only one question:
As a non -Jew, he's free to violate the coming Shabbos but if he converts today, he's liable for capital punishment. Does he agree and accept this new obligation upon himself. He gave an unequivocal "yes" and was promptly megei'ir. I happened to be at weekend retreat with him and was watching as the chazzan waited for him at krias Shema and Amidah. Maybe we need some good geirim like Ruth, Onkeles, etc.. since the current Jewish-born crop ain't cutting it. Moshiach ain't here yet.
Also enlightening to know that you farhertd R' Riskin and know that he's an am haaretz.
Not your fault that the farfrumte yachnes put horse binders around your eyes and now you have tunnel vision.

the Derby... Many Shulchan Aruch laws has been changed, amended, emended, phased out for hundreds of years.