Sunday, August 21, 2016

Ami: "Eretz Yisroel not important"

Yitzy (the clown) Franfurter, editor Ami Magazine 
The clown, Yitzy Frankfurter never ceases to amaze me. In an "editorial" in last week's Ami, (a magazine catering to women), titled "Consolation," Yitzy the "drei kup" makes up a reason for his lady audience why Moshe Rabbeinu  wasn't allowed to enter Eretz Yisroel:
"Hakadosh Baruch Hu sent a message that the Torah is at the center of Yiddishkeit and not Eretz Yisrael."

Chazal and practically all Rishonim are climbing walls to find an answer why Hashem prohibited Moshe to enter the Holy land. Moshe Rabbeinu himself postulates that  it's because of Klall Yisroel stating in Parshas Ve'eschanan: "Vyisaber Hashem bee Le'Manchem" "Hashem refused me entry in the Holy land because of YOU!",...
and the Orach Chayim in this week's parsha writes that at the end of the day ...."we really don't know" ...
So nobody knows why .....
but Yitzy the Clown,  knows ...
He reasons that " Torah is far more central to Jewish life than than any geographical location"
So now Eretz Yisroel according to his warped logic is only a "geographical location"
The Arabs don't think it's just "any geographical location" and the Christians don't think it's just "any geographical location" and our Holy Torah doesn't think that Eretz Yisrael is just a  "geographical location".....but the Frank, with his scraggly beard ... thinks so...

Now don't get me wrong, I think that Torah is of paramount importance; without Torah we are like all other nations. 
But why can't Torah and Eretz Yisroel be on par? .....

The Gemarrah says that anyone walking 4 amos in Eretz Yisroel gets all "his sins forgiven." The Gemarrah doesn't say that about learning Torah, you can learn Torah and be a rasha me'rusha." You can learn Torah and still go to hell!

Yitzy, a Satmar tuchisleker, constantly tries to throw in the bizarre Satmar ideology whenever he can...
He even quotes the Rambam's Moreh Nevuchim,(a sefer that according to Chareidim should not even be read) to bolster his idiotic twisted undermining of the Mitzvah of Yishuv Eretz Yisrael.
and writes " yishuv Eretz Yisrael is just one of the Torah's commandments and is not the focal point of Judaism."

The fact that we see open miracles; the fulfillment of every single prophecy, the "in-gathering of the exiles" and we are seeing that the majority of Jews  now live in Israel ...those facts are totally ignored by this stand up comic. The Baalei Mussar write "Letzana achas doiche meh toichacois" One Joke can destroy 100 lectures of Mussar ... Yitzy just did that with his "editorial" 

Let's see how the Chazal viewed "Yishuv Eretz Yisroel"
Bava Kamma 80b

We learned in friday's Daf (Bava Kamma 80b) that one may instruct  a gentile to sign a contract on Shabbos, on the Jew's behalf  to buy property in Israel. 
Normally when we deal with  any other "melacha" on shabbos we cannot instruct a non-Jew to do the "melacha" because of the prohibition of "amira le'akum." 
But when it comes to buying property in Israel from a non-Jew, Chazal did away with "shvus"  meaning doing away with all Shabbos related Rabbinic decrees because of the great importance of "Yishuv Eretz Yisrael." 

Kesubois daf 110b
The Gemmarah in tractate Kesubois (Daf 110b) goes a step further and says that one living in Eretz Yisrael is as if he was "living with a G-D" and one who lives in Chutz Le'aaretz, is as if he was worshipping idols and is living "without a G-D" ..!

Now see for yourself what the Ramban states in his Sefer Ha'Mitzvos:

Sefer Hamitzvos ... Ramban in Mitzvah 4 ... besides settling the Land we are
commanded for conquest & redeem the Land in all generations even under the jurisdiction of other nations i.e. exile ...

"That we are commanded to take possession of the Land which the Almighty, Blessed Be He, gave to our forefathers, to Avraham, to Yitzhak, and to Yaacov; and not to abandon it to other nations, or to leave it desolate, as He said to them, You shall dispossess the inhabitants of the Land and dwell in it, for I have given the Land to you to posses it, (Numbers, 33:53) and he said, further, To Inherit the Land which I swore to your forefathers, (to give them,) behold, we are commanded with the conquest of the land in every generation." 


Anonymous said...

Satmar have taken the Jewish relegion and turned it into a cult. They are not Jews, and just like early neo-Chritians, will be another faith in 100 years time.
Their rebbes are petty misogynistic men with small-minds, and their inbred followers are breeding themselves into stupidity. Look at the number of disabled kids in the community.

Country Yossi said...

Anonymous said...

Yes 100% "Israel" is absolutely not important they and their Zionist agenda is a cancer and should be wiped off ASAP UMALCHUS ZADON TAAVIR MIN HAORETZ

Anonymous said...

this is a problem with every publication the opinion or position taken by the publication influences the resder. if one reads the ny times one say icant accept their position they are pro arab. the problem with jewish publications is the average reader takes it all in as fact.the two main jewish newspapers are always quoted by stupid people who fail to realize they are fed an individuals propaganda.thse propaganda machines are very successful in skewing the mind of our nieve jewery

Sam said...

This guy has gone from a bafoon to just a plain apikores

Anonymous said...

He misquotes te Rambam, because in hilchos melochim #5 he writes that
"a person should always live in Eretz Yisrael, even in a city of gentiles, and not in chu"l even in a Jewish city".
He just doesn't count it as a mitzvah and many commentators have answers for that.
This is from ***Frequent Questions about Mitzvat Yishuv Eretz Yisrae***

by Rabbi Ari Shvat (Chwat)

. The Chatam Sofer (shu"t Yoreh De’ah, 234): the chova to live in Aretz is based on the exceptional kdusha here, and there is therefore no need to call it "just" a mizva.

2. The Avnei Nezer (shu"t Orach Chaim, vol. II, 535, 8) says its included in the mitzva of kibbush haAretz ("haCharem Tacharimem").

3. Rav Kook quotes the Or haChayim (end of p. Nitzavim), that living in Aretz encompasses all of the mitzvot in the Torah, and need not be counted as "only"one mitzvah (shoresh 4).

4. Eretz Chemda (R. Shaul Yisraeli, p.33): it’s included in "v’achalta v’savata uverachta et Hashem Elokecha al haAretz haTova" if we thank Hashem for (literally: "on") the Land which He gave us, we obviously must be here!

5. The Gadol of Minsk: Shoresh 2 of the Rambam’s rules for what he counts in the 613 and what not: Inferred Mitzvot aren’t among the 613. For example: all agree with the gmara in Ktuvot 72a, that it’s asur m’doraita for a married woman not to cover her hair, yet no opinion counts it as a mitzva because it’s so pashut, the Torah infers it as a given ("when a Sotah is brought to the Mikdash, her hair is then uncovered"- inferring that it obviously was covered, as is obvious to any tzanu’a women in modest countries (not America!- to this very day). So too, anyone who reads the Tanach sees that it is obviously addressing Am Yisrael who is living in Eretz Yisrael. Ex.: Even when Moshe or Y’hoshua are on the east bank of the Jordan river, it’s still called "ever haYarden" (="the other side of the Jordan"), because the reader is living on the west bank, in Eretz Kna’an. Similarly, the western wind is called "yam" (literally: "from the sea") even in Egypt where "the sea" is north- not west! Because for the reader, who is expected to be living in Israel, west is called "from the sea" (see Rashi,

Anonymous said...

If anybody has a moreh nevuchim, pleasegive us the quote of the rambam and in what context he wrote it, until then what this magazine wrote shouldn't be believed.

Torah True Judaism said...

If you say that Eretz is not a central concern of Judaism, you have invented a new religion. In fact, you have invented an anti-Semitic cult, allied with Iran and Hezbollah and other enemies of the Jewish people who center their war of genocide on the Land of Israel. For shame. These clowns will go down in Jewish history in the same way as the early Xtian community went down during the Roman Wars, as backstabbers and traitors and ultimately, NOT JEWS and not part of the Jewish nation. To them is directed the 19th bracha of the shmone essrey.

Anonymous said...

Somebody ask Frankfurter where exactly in Moreh Nevuchim does it say what he says. There is no such Moreh Nevuchim.

Dusiznies said...

Franfurter, the lying fool brings his proof that Israel is "not important"
from the following statement:

"In his Moreh Nevuchim, the Rambam hardly mentions Eretz Yisrael. Instead he writes the following with regard to the concept of being "close" to G-d: ""Do not lose sight of the truth that there is no difference whether a person stands at the center of the earth or at the highest point of the ninth sphere, if this were possible. One is not further away from G-d in the one case or nearer to Him in the other. Only those who obtain a knowledge of G-d get close to Him, while those who remain ignorant of G-d recede"

So from this ...this shvantz deduces that the Rambam meant that Israel is not important .....

Anonymous said...

If you're reading this on your laptop in the bathroom, take it out because I'm about to write some real Torah. Why do we have to keep answering with myriads of proofs, the balei kefirah all the time?... I'm tired of it, aren't you?

So here are just a few what I'll call basics, to get to the point:

It all started with Avrohom Aveinu who was led into and then promised the Holy Land with an oath... Same to Yitzhok, same to Yaakov..There isn't a word about giving him or his progeny the Torah... Look for yourself... Not One Word about giving the Torah, nothing, zero, zippo, nada... All about Eretz Yisroel. Of course, I'm not ever suggesting that the Torah wasn't CH"V"S important... But right away you see that the TORAH ITSELF is telling us that Eretz Yisroel is bound to the Torah . Torah, Yisroel, Eretz Yisroel and H"BH are ONE... PERIOD.Take one out and you have nothing.

Last week's Vo"Eschanan: Look at the Rabbeinu Bachei who writes that the after Moshe Rabbeinu discusss the greatness of Hashem right at the beginning,, he speaks about going into the land. Says R' Bachai:
THE IKKUR OF THE TORAH IS IN THE LAND...!!!!! Mitzvos that are dependent on it are manifold...
Are you guys going to jut wash these mitzvos away?? They are in the TORAH, the Torah that you guy want to pull away from EY.. What's wrong with you??????
From the great R' Teichtal, Z"T", H"Y"D n Eim Habonim Semeicha :
TORAH & EY were said in a single sentence, they are inseparable companions... Torah is called MORASHA in Devorim, and EY is called MORASHA ( inheritance) in Shemos..Thus, Torah & EY were both designated with this word MORASHA because they are equal and inseparable..

Let me tell you guys something:
IT'tzzzz O'VUHHHHH....!!!!
EY is HERE, growing and blooming.
I'll bet Trump's millions that Israel is the one & only country NOT in decline on this planet.. Every country, in my estimation is spiraling downward except EY.... Whoever said what, by any rav or tzaddik in the past can be learned as a piece of Torah, but is irrelevant lehalacha and hashkafa today... Don't bring me any sevorus and memres from those opposed to the great State from pre-WWII... S--l-o-w-l-y... It......DUZN"T ...MATTAHH.. ANYMORE.....I'm not interested... PERIOD. The redemption is dawning....
CONTINUED....... NEXT......

Anonymous said...

Continued from above......

These guys are spending time, money, running websites and bashing the State , and in proper English yet, with dung heaps of so called "rei'es" defaming, scandalizing and creating a Chillul Hashem for all non-Jews to see... So may of whom, by the way, are very pro_Jewish and pro-Zionists and don't tell me about motives... I don't give a damn...!!! They are our friends..

So I had some kavana the other Shabbas and something hit me like a thunderbolt...!!
I'm saying the Ki L'olam Chasdos, right?
Standing as usual... There are 26 of them... At about the 6th one it starts with yetziyas Mitzrayim, to wars with Sichon, etc, to coming into the Land... HOLD ON...!!
WHAT???? Not one Ki leolam for Matan Torah... Check it out yourself... NOT ONE..
SO Again, this piece of Torah that we're davening is telling us the order of the Ki Leolams, and skipped itself the event of Matan Torah...Not because it was unimportant... Au Contraire... It was the single most important event in human history, but yet the chachamim chose to skip it here to reach us a lesson... ALL IS TORAH....
ALL of it...!!! If you have a better answer, kol hakavod, I'd like to hear it..

R' Teichtal quotes Reb Shayale Kutner Z"L in a letter to R' Kalischer Z"T"L about working for Aliyah some 150 years ago.:
" Do not become disheartened nor discouraged by the words of the antagonists, for they speak of ignorance."

Ladies & Gentlemen :
You're being fed meraglim propaganda....Don't accept it, don't be mekabel it, don't buy their rags , and don't allow your children to be influenced by these people with ulterior motives... Of course there are problems there that need to be fixed.. It's not utopia till Moshiach.
Shaalie Sh'lom Yirushalayim , so that there will be Shalkva Bearminosayich... peace in your dwellings...

THE Quartet;

de Heen
de Hoon

Anonymous said...

"... that the Torah is at the center of Yiddishkeit and not Eretz Yisrael."

Come again ?????

"... that the Torah is at the center of Yiddishkeit and not Eretz Yisrael."
Where did we read this before??????
Of course..... The meraglim, maybe??? huh??? Whadda you think??
Stay here in the gorgeous desert, y'all.... Torah is good here too...
Go shlep Zach with cranky kids and other farshlepteh krenk across the Jordan to Milk & Honey... Meshiggahh....
Stop plagiarizing, Mr.

Derby & de Hoon

Anonymous said...

If Israel is not the center for yiddishkeit, how come Moshe Rabaynu, who received the Torah and gave it to us prayed 515 prayers to go in there? Your hefkeirus is tamei and knows no bounds.