Friday, March 22, 2019

Satmar and Muslim Media Upset That Trump Will Recognize Israel’s Sovereignty Over the Golan Heights

I'm alway amazed, especially now that I live in the Holy Land, at Chareidim who will bring Gemarras and Midroshim to delegitimize the State of Israel.....
 Twisting the words of our holy Chazal to support their ignorant totally irrelevant ideas that the Jewish people don't deserve to even live in Eretz Yisrael! 

They argue relentlessly in face of an opposite reality  defending the archaic views of their leaders.

Just last week I met a Satmarer Chasid in Yerushlayim, someone who I know for many years, who outwardly appears like a devout chasid, a serious frum learned Jew.....and who came to Israel from the USA to visit some unknown rebbele ! 

During our  discussion he suddenly looks at the beautiful new modern infrastructure and remarks.... "You see?  the Rebbe Was Right!"

I ask "which rebbe????????" He says there is and was only one Rebbe, and that's R' Yoel of Satmar.?"

I naively ask him ..." in what way was he right?"

He answers: "Don't you see ... the Jews living here walking around without Yarlmulkas and eating treif."

I'm looking at the beautiful new buildings, the Rakevet Kal, the new streets ....15,000 Avreichim learning a few blocks away in the Mir, beautiful new Batei Midrashim every single block ....and yes ...even  a massive Satmar structure in Yerusahlayim ....and all he can see is that there are people walking the streets without yarmulkas.

I tell him:
 "Correct me if I'm wrong.... but I remember learning that Moshe Rabeinu had a Jew killed because he was a "Mechallel Shabbos!"
He says, "what are you getting at?"
I say ... one minute .... .... "Didn't the Jews who saw Krias Yam Suf with thousands of miracles performed, make the Eigal?
and didn't Moshe decide to bring down the Luchos at the same time anyway.?"

He says ;;;; "Hey... wait one minute ....he broke"

I say;;;;
"Hashem told him before he took the luchos that they were making an Eigal, he took those Luchis knowing full well that they made an Eigal and yet he felt that he should bring them down anyway!?
He broke them for different reasons...he didn't take Luchus that Hashem created to break them ...that was not his intention ..absolutely not ...;he felt that they deserved the Torah anyway ....and he took the luchos to give them to Klall Yisrael ... He decided that despite the Eigal he was going to give them the Torah whose majority of mitzvois apply only in Eretz Yisroel..
yes... he took them down to the people who just made an eigal!!!

Ok ... he says ... what's your point???
My point is ... I say ....
despite the guy being "Mechallel Shabbos" despite the Jewish people making the Eigal ....despite all this 
Moshe still begged HKB"H to allow him to  go to Eretz Yisrael ....not by himself ....
no ......but with the Jewish people .....yes ... even those who sinned, yes ...even those who weren't perfect"

 "Tell me my friend ....what do you say about the Ramban who says that "Yishuv Eretz Yisroel is a Mitzvas esseh Me'doiriseh bizman hazeh.?"

He says .... "but the Rambam didn't count it as one of the Mitzvois....?"

I answer: "He may not have counted it, but 75% of the Mitzvois he does count can only be performed in Israel"

and I add, "that same Rambam says that the 3rd Bais Ha'mikdash will not come down from Heaven but must be built by humans ,,,,,and how about the fact that the Rambam visited the Har Habayis ... ???? 
You still want to quote the Rambam..... ?"

"and do you know that Ezra and Nechemia begged the Jewish people to make aliyah from Bavel right after the Purim story?
Who was living in Eretz Yisroel at that time ..... What kind of Jews?"
The Jews living in Eretz Yisroel at that time were worse than the Zionists... they were assimilated Jews, Ovdei Avodah Zara.... yet despite that, Ezra and Nechemia begged the Jews to make Aliyah ... and cursed those who remained in Baval " ....

Now,,,, in the year 2019 there are maybe a minyan Jews living in Baval and miracle of miracles, the majority of the world's Jews now live in the country that you despise....
I would rather live in Eretz Yisrael with Jews who are Michallel Shabbos, than live in Williamsburg with the fake Chassidim ...  

so tell me , how was your rebbe right??? Didn't he say in 1956 and then repeated this prediction in 1967, that he believes there will be no frum Jews in the Zionist State in 20 years.....?"

 Here comes a goy..... President Donald Trump, who sees thru all the garbage .... and does what not one Satmarer Rebbe ever did...
recognize publically a piece of Israel that belongs forever to the Jewish people.... 

 Now all the Satmar newspapers together with their  buddies the Arab press  condemn Trump's recognition of the Golan Heights ...
The Satmars keep great company...

President Donald Trump said it was time to recognize Israel’s sovereignty over the Golan Heights.
“After 52 years it is time for the United States to fully recognize Israel’s Sovereignty over the Golan Heights, which is of critical strategic and security importance to the State of Israel and Regional Stability!” Trump said Thursday on Twitter.
The government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has pressed for the recognition of the strategic plateau, which Israel captured from Syria in the 1967 Six-Day War. Republicans in Congress, led by Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, have advanced legislation to recognize the Golan as belonging to Israel. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., earlier this month toured the Golan and said he would push for recognition.
Israel sees holding on to the Golan now as especially critical because of continued instability in Syria.
It’s not clear what action Trump would take, if any. In a tweet immediately following, Trump’s top Middle East negotiator called Trump’s statement a “decision.”
“Another bold, courageous, and historic decision by @POTUS who understands Israel and its security needs,” Jason Greenblatt said. Trump in 2017 recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, and last year moved the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
Trump’s tweet comes on the eve of Netanyahu’s visit to Washington and just over two weeks before Israel’s election. Trump has taken a number of steps to bolster Netanyahu ahead of the April 9 vote.
On Thursday, Netanyahu and Trump spoke on the phone.
“You made history,” Netanyahu said, according to the Israeli Government Press Office.
Netanyahu also referred to Trump and the Golan tweet at his appearance with U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who was in Israel for talks.
He said the move was of “equal historic importance” with moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.  Trump “recognized Israel’s sovereignty over the Golan Heights, and he did so at a time when Iran is trying to use Syria as a platform to attack and destroy Israel,” said Netanyahu. “And the message that President Trump has given the world is that America stands by Israel.”
The Israel Policy Forum, which supports a two-state solution, said it supports U.S. recognition of Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, calling Israeli control over the territory a “strategic imperative.” But it questioned the timing of Trump’s decision, saying it could bait Syrian pro-regime forces and create momentum for recognition of Israeli annexation of the West Bank, which it opposes.


The Forvertz said...

"15,000 Avreichim learning a few blocks away"

Christians Are Studying Torah — In Israel :

כי תבאו לראות פני מי בקש זאת מידכם רמס חצרי. -ישעיהו א יב

ArtSkull said...

פורץ גדר ישכנו נח"ש - זו ארט-סקרול האשמים בדבר. וד"ל

Christians Are Studying Torah — In Israel :

Dusiznies said...

Hey Forvertz & Artskull
What's your point?
Let them seek JC ... who gives a crap?

The Point said...

ויום השביעי שבת לה' אלהיך לא תעשה כל מלאכה אתה ובנך ובתך ועבדך ואמתך 'ושורך וחמרך' וכל בהמתך

Anonymous said...

He seems to be saying with so much enthusiasm that his Rebbe is right about Jews eating treif and going bareheaded. Does he feel that all Jews are brothers, that all Jews are connected? It doesn't seem to pain him that Jews are not serving Hashem as they should. The problem is much deeper than Satmar's willingess to recognize Israel's right to defend itself by not giving away land and by having complete control over land that are called "territories". The deeper problem is that Satmar do not recognize secular- leaning Jews as their brothers and are not pained when a Jew is not expressing the value of his neshama with Torah and mitzvos.

Frum but normal said...

Hey DIN,how dare you compare Muslims to those Satmar bastards,most of the Muslims have already recognized our rights to Eretz Yisroel at least the borders of pre 1967,but these Satmar Jew hating Kapo gangsters keep barking that Jews have no right to any part of our God given land.

Noah Zevuluni said...

The Rebbe of Belz (Agrippas) supports the return of the Golan in return for peace.!

The position of the Belz Hasidic court in Jerusalem is that land should be returned for peace, because Jewish blood is more expensive than land. Therefore, we must withdraw from the Golan Heights in return for peace with Syria.

The Rebbe surprised the students of the Merkaz HaRav Yeshiva - the Zionist National Yeshiva - and appeared with two gabais and four guards at the "Sheva Brachot" celebration, which was held yesterday in the yeshiva building. The Admor was received by hundreds of yeshiva students wearing knitted skullcaps and spent a long time with The people around tables are all well prepared

Afterwards, the rabbi was honored with the blessing of the seven berakhot and the blessing of the "glass of wine". Before the rabbi left the yeshiva building, he was asked by the author of 'Davar', what was the opinion of the Rabbi about withdrawal from the Golan Heights? The rabbi replied: "The Golan has good wines..

Dusiznies said...

Why doesn't the holy rebbe of Belz lead by example?
Let him give his giant monster of a shul to the Arabs ...