A Tale of 2 Rabbonim

One Rebbe, the Sanz-Kloizenberg Rebbi visits the mother of one of the murdered boys, and gives her Chizuk, while the other, the clown, Aron Teitelbaum, the leader of thousands of Satmar Chassidim,  says that it was all her fault.
Question: Whos actions does G-D like better? Hmmm!

The Sanzer Rebbe Shlita was among the many being menachem aveil at the home of the families of the kedoshim HY”D. The rebbe visited with the Yifrach family, the parents of Eyal HY”D. The rebbe explained
“אין כל בריה יכולה לעמוד במעלתם ובמחיצתם של קדושים”.

The rebbe spoke with Mr. Yifrach explaining the level of the boys who dies Al Kiddush Hashem and the mission, they the parents were selected to fulfill. He explained “our existence as the Jewish People is dependent on our steadfast emunah in HKBH”, praising their actions during recent weeks.

When the rebbe finished being menachem aveil, he got up and went to the women’s section and spoke with Mrs. Yifrach, explaining to her that she and the other women were MeKadesh Shem Shomayim around the world.
As the search for the boys continued, the rebbe was mispallel for them as the Kosel.

Statement of OU and RCA on Arrest by Israel of Jewish Suspects in Killing

The Orthodox Union and the Rabbinical Council of America unequivocally condemn the brutal murder of Muhammad Hussein Abu Khdeir. We are appalled that this heinous crime was allegedly carried out in revenge for the kidnapping and murders of three innocent Jewish teens in Gush Etzion. The murder of innocents is antithetical to Jewish law and tradition and must always be opposed by men and women of decency and morality. This merciless act of brutality defiles the name of God and desecrates the memories of Eyal Yifrach, Gilad Shaar and Naftali Frenkel. We pray for the day when such senseless acts of violence will cease. We mourn the victim and offer condolences to his grieving family. We salute the Government of Israel for resolutely and without hesitation seeking to bring to justice the perpetrators of this reprehensible crime.
Orthodox Union

Rabbinical Council of America

Chinese Government Gets Sick Of Islamic Violence, Take 13 Muslim Jihadists And Execute All Of Them

 

China executed 13 people today for “terrorist attacks” in the far western region of Xinjiang, state media said, while a further three were sentenced to death for staging a lethal attack in Tiananmen Square in Beijing.

 

“The 13 criminals had planned violent terrorist attacks and ruthlessly killed police officers, government officials and civilians, which took innocent lives, caused huge property losses and seriously endangered public security,” the official news agency Xinhua said.

 

Xinjiang is the traditional home of Muslim Uighurs who speak a Turkic language, and China has blamed previous attacks on Islamist separatists it says seek to establish an independent state there called East Turkestan.

 

Exiled Uighur groups and human rights activists say the government’s own repressive policies in Xinjiang have provoked unrest, something Beijing denies.

The 13 executed men were involved in attacks in different parts of Xinjiang, including one last June that killed 24 policemen and local residents, Xinhua said.

In the Tiananmen case, five people were killed and 40 hurt when a car ploughed into a crowd in the square and burst into flames. Those killed included three people in the car.

Satmar to Annex 500 acres in Monroe! Causing a huge Chillul Hashem!

The Satmar guys see nothing wrong with antagonizing the goyim in Monroe, and will annex over 500 acres in neighboring Kiryas Yoel.
The Hypocrisy is astounding!
They yell and shout when the Zionists annex parts of Eretz Yisroel,  land that was given to us by G-D!
Why is it ok for Satmar to annex but wrong for Jews to annex our very own land?
If they want to live together, why don't they all move to Israel?
I don't get it.

Kiryas Joel is a fast-growing island of ultra-Orthodox Satmar Chasidic Jews in a suburban stretch of New York’s Hudson Valley. Sidewalks are busy with mothers in head coverings pushing strollers, and kids’ plastic trikes seem to outnumber cars.

Now a petition to expand the densely settled village by annexing 507 acres of leafy lots nearby has heightened tensions with some suburban neighbors. While expansion could help a village bursting at the seams, there are fears it would lead to unwanted increases in apartment complexes, homes and traffic.

“The quality of life here will be completely destroyed,” said John Allegro, standing on his family’s wooded 1.5-acre lot, which he said would be semi-circled by annexed land. Allegro said he moved farther from New York City to escape that kind of hubbub.

A group of residents called United Monroe, which includes Allegro and others, has been raising alarms about the landowners’ annexation request, much of it covering undeveloped acres. They argue looser village zoning could usher in a new wave of high-density development that will stress sewers, hurt air quality and create a “dramatic change in the rural landscape.”

“The reality is that it changes everything, fundamentally,” Monroe resident Michael Egan said.

The annexation issue arose amid friction in other Orthodox populations in the region and after Kiryas Joel separately challenged zoning restrictions in neighboring Woodbury.

Freund insists villagers are trying to live in peace and follow the customs of their ancestors. “Because we’re looking different, they’re fighting us,” Freund said. Similarly, Kiryas Joel school superintendent Joel Petlin said that while the village generates heated debate, officials elsewhere in the county quickly passed resolutions supporting proposals for large casino resorts and allowed the expansion of the nearby outlet mall.

Shelly Dadon was murdered by an Arab Cab Driver

Nearly two months after 20 year old Shelly Dadon was found stabbed to death in a parking lot in Migdal Haemek, information about an arrest made in the case was cleared for publication by police on Sunday.

Hussein Yousef Hussein Khalifa, 34, a resident of the Arab village of A’ablin in the Galilee, was arrested on June 16 for suspected involvement in Dadon’s May 1 murder. He later confessed to committing the crime.
Khalifa was a taxi driver who provided a daily employee shuttle to the industrial area of Migdal Haemek in the Jezreel Valley.

On the day of the murder, he was waiting at a cab stand in the center of town when he was approached by Dadon, who asked for a ride to the industrial area, where she was scheduled to have a job interview, police said.

 

Instead of dropping her off, Khalifa took her to an abandoned parking lot near her intended destination, and stabbed her to death before fleeing the scene.
Khalifa’s motive had yet to be fully verified, police said, but the Shin Bet evaluated that the murder had nationalistic motives.

 

Chassidim Protesting with Arabs against Israel in London

Don't tell me that they are Neturei Karta! ...
I'll only believe these bastards are Neturei Karta, when the Chassidishe Rabbonim come out with a statement that this is unacceptable!
As long as the leaders just call them a "bunch of meshigaim" we will accept the notion that they agree with this obscenity!

London - More than 1,000 people protested outside the Israeli embassy in West London today, Saturday, against Israel’s deadly new attacks on the Gaza strip.
The protest was called at just a few days notice by Palestine Solidarity Campaign and backed by Stop the War Coalition and Friends of Al Aqsa among others.

 

The diverse crowd included many young Muslims fasting for Ramadan, and some members of the Jewish Chassidim.

I’ve come down here to show solidarity with the Palestinian people and obviously to support their freedom and their justice, and also to protest against the collective punishment which is constantly occurring in Palestine when terrible tragedies occur, which all of the Palestinian people get punished for and get blamed for. There are hundreds of people who are trying to just live in peace in that area,” said Adam Lee, an activist at the rally.
Protesters at the event also condemned the media and called for an end to biased and one-sided coverage of the news related to the occupied Palestinian territories.
There were other protests in towns around Britain, including Glasgow where 200 people rallied in Buchanan Street.
In London, the protest began behind fences across the street from the embassy. But after a group of activists staged a symbolic “die-in” at the embassy entrance, others followed chanting “Free Free Palestine,” forcing police to close the road.
 

Der Blaat, Aroinie Newspaper, Prints the entire Hatefull Speech, for the entire world to see

Der Blaat, the Aroinie Yiddish weekly, published the entire speech of their Hate Monger Rabbi, just in case someone missed it!

So for those useful idiots, that say that the blogs are spreading hate, see the above full page copy of Aron Teitelbaum's sick perverted speech to his naive sheep, which was printed in Der Blatt!

This speech is straight out of Al jazirah!

 

Der Yid, Satmar Newspaper, Just like Hamas Blame Zionists for the brutal murder of the boys.

Der Yid, a Satmar Yiddish weekly newspaper, puts all the blame on the State of Israel. Their arguments are identical to Hamas and  Haaretz.
Satmar is no different than the Israel leftist communist daily newspaper, Haaretz.
Im not going to translate this convoluted garbage they espouse, suffice it to say, it's no different than the hate coming out of the Hamas terrorist organization.
Satmar may do alot of Chesed, but so does the Salvation Army!
 

Rav Aviner's Response to Aron Teitelbaum

In the wake of our tremendous pain over the murder of the three innocent teens, a desire has arisen within the Nation to understand why this has happened.

The Admor of Satmar, who dwells in the Exile, claims that it is a punishment for the teens learning in the “Settlements” and blames the parents for sending them to learn there.

We fear that assigning such blame may violate the prohibition of “Ona’at Devarim” (distressing others). As the Gemara in Baba Metzia (58b) says, one may not speak to one who is suffering affliction or illness, or whose children have died, the way Iyov’s friends spoke to him: “Surely your fear was your foolishness, your hope and the sincerity of your ways” (Iyov 4:6).

And we can add that the Rishonim on this Gemara write that the problem is not only causing distress to another person but also arrogance in thinking that we can know the ways of Hashem.

This recalls the reciprocal placing of blame that occurred following the horrors of the Holocaust: Some said that it happened on account of Zionism, others said it was because there was not Zionism. Still others blamed it on the Enlightenment. Each group’s explanation came from its own biased outlook, with no regard for the idea: “For My thoughts are not your thoughts and My ways are not your ways” (Yeshayahu 55:8).

As is known, the uncle of the Admor of Satmar, Ha-Rav Yoel Teitelbaum, wrote a book “Va-Yoel Moshe” which is based on the idea that the murder of the holy one during the Holocaust was because of Zionism and the Return to Tzion.

But the great Rabbis of Israel have already answered that if the main transgression was Jews making Aliyah to Eretz Yisrael in an organized fashion, then the first Jews to make Aliyah should have been murdered. Yet those who came to Eretz Yisrael and “violated” the Three Oaths (according to the Satmar Rebbe’s opinion) were saved, and those who did not make Aliyah were the ones who were murdered! (See the book “Alo Naale” – Response to Va-Yoel Moshe #43). The number of Jews murdered in Auschwitz alone was, in fact, higher than that of all of the Jews murdered in all of the wars and terror attacks since the beginning of the Return to Tzion.

Today – with the kindnesses of Hashem upon us – there are almost half a million Jews who live in Yesha. Therefore the Admor of Satmar’s claim is not valid.

Regarding the question itself, whether learning in Yesha is permissible:
this was already asked of Ha-Rav Yitzchak Zilberstein, Rabbi of “Ramat Elchanan” (neighborhood in Bnei Brak).

A student was learning in a Yeshiva in Yesha and his parents were opposed on account of the danger. Ha-Rav Zilberstein proves that “a frequent damage” (Pesachim 8b. See Mesilat Yesharim, end of Chapter 9) is five percent. Baruch Hashem, 5% of the residents in Yesha are not murdered! And Ha-Rav Yitzchak Isaac Herzog in Shut Heichal Yitzchak proved based on Shut Rabbi Akiva Eiger (#60) that a frequent danger is not five percent, but one in a thousand (Shut Ha-Rav Herzog Vol. 1, p. 269).

Baruch Hashem, one in a thousand Jews is not murdered in Yesha. The basic halachah is therefore that there is nothing to fear. Obviously, nothing is 100% certain, but nowhere in this world is 100% safe, not Yerushalayim and not Tel Aviv, and it is all based on the definition of “a frequent damage”.

We agree with the Admor of Satmar that there are many Arab murderers in Eretz Yisrael, but we must see things in proportion. We have already been living in Yesha for 40 years and the number of murders that occur there is extremely low. The same is true in all of Eretz Yisrael. We must remember that according to a report of the WHO, World Health Organization, 8 out of 100,000 Israeli citizens are murdered each year. That’s compared with 15 out of 100,000 citizens in France, and 25 out of 100,000 Americans.

Therefore, it is more dangerous for the Admor of Satmar, may he live a long and good life, Amen!, to live in America than to live in the “Settlements”!

We must thank Hashem, and his loyal agents – Tzahal, the police, the Mossad, the Shabak and the rest of the security establishment – day and night for the peace and quiet we merit in our Land.

In the Gemara in Chullin (63b), Rabbi Abayu asks: Why is there a bird called “Ra’ah” (the one who saw)?
He answers:
Because he sits in Bavel and sees a carcass in Eretz Yisrael. The great Rabbis explain that this is a parable to someone who dwells outside of Eretz Yisrael and see the deficiencies in Eretz Yisrael and speaks Lashon Ha-Ra against it…

This obviously in no way detracts from the incredible merits of the Admor of Satmar in strengthening Torah and fear of Hashem in America, and we pray regarding them: “May our eyes behold Your return to Tzion in compassion”.

(Source: Rav Aviner)

The Yeshiva World Blog writes that Aron Teitelbaum violated the Torah, for speaking against parents of murdered teens!

I have to say, that I didn't expect it, but they did what's right.
Here is the editorial of the Yeshivaworld blog: in response to the maniacal rant of the Romanian Rabbi.

Yelamdeinu Rabbeinu.
There is a recording of the Rav’s recent talk on the tragedy of the murder of three precious neshamos in Klal Yisroel.
Among the Rav’s words were the following:

“Instead of just eulogizing [their children] they should have also said ashamnu bagadnu, klap all chait, that we had a portion in this.. They caused the retzicha of their own children.”
One can understand the Rav’s view on Zionism. One can also understand the Rav’s view on the three shavuos that Klal Yisroel took. What I cannot understand, however, and this meant with the utmost respect, is how does the Rav read a simple Gemorah? It is in Bava Metziah 58b.

Tanu Rabbanan: Our Rabbis Taught

Lo sonu ish es amito ...........A person should not anguish his friend

B’onaas Dvarim hakasuv medaber.. The pasuk is speaking about anguish brought through words..

Ha Kaitzad?.. What are examples of this?..

Im hayu yisurin ba-in alav.. If he was suffering from difficulties..

Oh shehaya mekaver es banav      Or he was burying his sons

Al yomar lo kederech     He should NOT SAY TO HIM in the manner

Sh’amru lo chaveirav l’Iyov      that Iyov’s friends said to him

“Surely, your fear was your foolishness, your hope and the sincerity of your ways. Remember now, who was innocent that perished? And where were the upright destroyed?”

The words that the Rav spoke seem to be in direct contradiction to this Gemorah. 
Does the Rav feel that this Gemorah is not l’halacha? 
How can this be? All the Poskim quote it.

Does the Rav feel that these parents are not within the category of Amito? This also cannot be because the Rav’s words described the children as precious neshamos in Klal Yisroel.

The prohibition of Onaas Dvarim is very severe. It is also true that the Rav would never knowingly violate this issur.

One can only conclude that the Rav -

1] feels that it is permitted to speak like Iyov’s friends if the words do not reach the person suffering.

2] was unaware that his words would be recorded and would reach the ears of the parents too.

Unfortunately, the second point is not true. Whenever anything is said publically or recorded one should make an assumption that others will hear of it.

I am certain then that the Rebbe will correct this error at the first opportunity,

With blessings of peace and achdus,

Dovid Kates

לכבוד הגאון הרב הצדיק יסוד עולם סוע”ה כקש”ת מו”ה אהרן טייטלבוים שליט”א, אדמו”ר דסאטמער

ילמדנו רבינו. ישנה קלטת של שיחת רבינו בענין האסון של רציחת ג’ נפשות בישראל ר”ל.

ובתוך דבריו, הרב אמר:

“ובמקום הספד היה להם לומר אשמנו בגדנו וגם שהיה להם ל”קלאפ” על חטא שהיה לנו חלק בזה (ברציחה זו).” ושוב אמר, “ההורים אשמים ברציחת בנם.”

ניתן להבין את שיטת הרב בענין הציונות. וגם ניתן להבין את שיטת הרב בענין הג’ שבועות [שלא לעלות בחומה]. אבל קשה לי מאד להבין, איך הרב מבין דברי גמרא מפורשת בבבא מציעא נח ע”ב.

לא תונו איש את עמיתו – באונאת דברים הכתוב מדבר. אתה אומר באונאת דברים, או אינו אלא באונאת ממון? כשהוא אומר וכי תמכרו ממכר לעמיתך או קנה מיד עמיתך – הרי אונאת ממון אמור, הא מה אני מקיים לא תונו איש את עמיתו – באונאת דברים. הא כיצד? אם היה בעל תשובה אל יאמר לו זכור מעשיך הראשונים, אם היה בן גרים אל יאמר לו זכור מעשה אבותיך, אם היה גר ובא ללמוד תורה אל יאמר לו פה שאכל נבילות וטריפות, שקצים ורמשים בא ללמוד תורה שנאמרה מפי הגבורה. אם היו יסורין באין עליו, אם היו חלאים באין עליו, או שהיה מקבר את בניו, אל יאמר לו כדרך שאמרו לו חביריו לאיוב הלא יראתך כסלתך תקותך ותם דרכיך זכר נא מי הוא נקי אבד.

ובמחילת כבודו לכאורה דברי הרב הנ”ל הם ממש כנגד דברי הגמרא הנ”ל. ואיך יתכן? האם הרב ס”ל שלא ק”ל כהגמרא להלכה? הלוא כל הפוסקים מביאין הדברים כפשוטם. ואם הרב ס”ל שההורים יצאו מכלל אמיתך, הרי לא משמע שזה שיטתו מכיון שהרב בעצמו דיבר על ג’ נפשות יקרות מישראל.

והנה ידוע שאיסור אונאת דברים חמור מאד ולא יתכן שהרב יעבור על איסור זה במזיד חלילה. אלא ע”כ ס”ל לרבינו שמותר לומר דברים של אונאה שלא בפניו של זה שנפגע – אם בטוח שדבריו לא יגיעו לזה שקובר את בניו. אך בזמנינו דבר זה לא שייך, שכל דברים של אדם נכתבים ונקלטטים מיד. ובטוחני שרבינו יתקן הטעות בסי המהירות.

בברכת שלום ואחדות,

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