Vey nice, I'm in total agreement.
How about not provoking other Jews by burning the Israeli flag?
So it's ok not to provoke a goy but to provoke another Jew is ok, even though the Torah writes: ואהבת לרעך כמוך
When goyim burn the Israeli flag, Jews scream "Anti-semitism" but when a fellow Jew does the exact same thing then it's a "mitzvah"
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Do you mean the flag of the government which you so proudly proclaim has such a high percent of female soldiers from Bait Shemesh to violate our Jewish sisters? This government gets good people like yourself to lose their feeling for shmiras hatorah. So when thiose brother will stop provoking the torah these brothers will stop provoking them.
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This government gave Moisdois Ha'Toirah over 811,652 million Shekel this year alone, and this was after the cuts. This government supports more Torah institutions in one year than any "oisher" ever donated.
I am very proud of Beit Shemesh' contribution to the IDF's combat units both in the boys and yes even the girls.
I don't see you being upset by the thousands of Frum Jewish girls going off the derech in the USA and the UK?
Why don't you take a trip to Monroe and Williamsburg and see hundreds of off the derech chassidishe bochrim hanging out on the corners.
I don't see you being upset that Frum heimishe women, Rebbeitzens, "violated" Jewish sisters Rebbetzins such as Leifer,Rebbetzin Rottenberg and Chevi Garfinkel from the US.
Were you upset when the Kolkos, Heshy Nussbaum and hundreds more raped Jewish boys?
Where were you when Walder destroyed hundreds of lives, some women had to get divorced because of this monster?
Thousands went the off the derech because of abuse!
Suddenly you are concerned with the IDF?
More Jewish Teenagers go off the derech in the USA in one year than in 25 years of the IDF history.
Those going off, came into the army already not frum!
Look into your contaminated heart and you will see that you don't really care about our Jewish sisters and brothers, you have an anti-Israel agenda which is not altruistic, it comes from pure "rishes"
Don't be worried about my "shmiras hatorah" until you clean your own filthy house.
So it's ok to burn the Jewish Flag? You demented rat
Wow! That's how you respond to someone who dares disagree with you! By disqualifying the commentator on a personal level? Making wild accusations about what I'm not upset about without having the foggiest idea about me and what I get upset about? The tragedy of kids going off the derech makes it ok to institutionalize vioalating the torah? Calling me a demented rat on the basis of nothing except for the fact that I dared to criticize a violation of the Torah? You are proud of Beit Shemesh' contribution to the IDF's combat units even the girls? Even though the Torah doesn't allow it? You decide which rules of the Torah are important to keep and discard the others?
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My response to you is appropriate in light of your pathetic comment excusing the burning of the Israeli flag, which like it or not represents all the Jewish people. There is no goy out there that thinks differently!
Re-read your comment and you will see why I think it doesn't come from a kind place
BTW they used to hang the Lubavitcher rebbe in effigy as well on Lee Avenue in Williamsburg on Purim.
The Torah doesn't allow someone to screw his neighbor's wife which Walder did on more than one occasion, yet there was a Gadol Hador that excused it! And even said that Loshon Hara is worse.
So please don't preach "Torah" to me!
Yes we have a lot of work to do and which Jew wouldn't want to have a Government that respects the Torah?
But if you learn Tanach you will see that a "frum" government seldom happened, starting with Shaul Ha'melech who openly defied a Navi. Most Jewish Kings were "Ovdei Avoda Zara." Some were even out right murderers. Very few were Shomer Shabbos! The gemarrah even states: that there were times during the First Bais Ha'mikdash that Torah was completely forgotten! Even those who were frum defied the Navi.
That is why they don't learn Tanach in Yeshivois, because they don't want the students to see what was really going on. They say if you ask them, that the "maskilim" learned Tanach that's why they don't learn it. But that is a lot of garbage because the "maskilim" learned Talmud Bavli as well and I don't see any Yeshivois stopping to learn the Daf!
What I am trying to say, is that I don't believe you that you are really concerned about our brothers and sisters, if you did, you would be outraged at the assimilation that is going on in the USA and Europe. You would be outraged that thousands of Yeshivah and Bais graduates are leaving the fold.
Do you know anyone in Hatzala in Williamsburg, Boro-Park or Monsey? You will learn quickly that former Yeshiva and Bais Yaakov are killing themselves on a "weekly" basis because of the abuse and hypocrisy in the frum communities, where they are sympathetic to the the abusers and have no compassion to the victims!
Now I'll let you into a secret, all previous Jewish governments had armies way back to Moshe Rabbeinu, and "learning in Kollel," didn't exempt you from serving. The Torah writes who is exempt but it isn't one that's learning! Even way later Rebbe Akiva approved an army it was only later when he found out that Bar-Kocba was a fraud that he regretted siding with him, but he never regretted the army itself!
So if you care so much about "shmiras ha'torah" why don't you encourage the BOYS to enroll? They can join Hesder and other strictly Frum units!
So it's not because of "shmiras Hatorah" that you are "outraged" because if it was you would encourage BOYS to join!
You have an Anti-Zionist agenda and I will not let trolls like you get away with it. This is not The Yeshiva World News Site where they allow hate for the State. Here I choose whose comments I allow ...
I advise you to write to Der Sturmer, Al Jazirra or Der Yid where they appreciate Jews that want the Israeli flag burned!
I don't burn Israeli flags. But I understand why some people do. You shouldn't have a hard time understanding it. You are a bigger Kanai than any Satmerer I know, only for different causes. After all you call some Jews the worst names in the book, so you're burning the flags of other types of Jews. But you only see it one sided.
And yes I am outraged about all the bad tings that happen in frum society. But tell me how does that justify condoning girl soldiers? Where is your outrage about that? So I guess you are the troll with a Zionist agenda which makes it ok in your eyes to violate the Torah.
And when you tell me about avoda zara and shfichas damim in Jewish history, so that makes it ok? Is avoda zara ok too? Your entire thesis is to discredit everybody else and then you are good to do whatever you want against the Torah because your comfortable when you can show other people's faults.
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You don't burn Israeli flags? Wow
שתיקה כהודאה דמיא
I do have a "hard time understanding" how a bunch of hooligans destroy the symbol of a Jewish nation that is the home of most frum people in the entire world, a State that has the most people learning than in the entire world, a State that funds Frum Moisdois Ha'Torah to the tune of over 800 million shekels a year. The home of most Holocaust survivors.
A nation that is surrounded by wolves trying to annihilate them.
And when these "hooligans" run from the law in the US, guess where they run too?
If we only had a State before WW2, how many Jews would have survived?
To burn the symbol of this country in public means they are from Zera Amelieke ...and בני קורח לא מתו
The gemarra states that Haman's grandchildren will be Jewish, I believe that those burning the flag had Haman as a grandfather
You are also a liar
Because Frum girls DON'T go to the Army, some do "Shurit Le'umie" which is actually a great thing and I don't think the government should give anyone an exemption from that. And over 98% of the frum girls don't even do that. Israel is our own Jewish country and every single citizen should contribute to the welfare of this country, otherwise they should leave.
This girls going to the army business is a "red herring" put out by the Frum mafia to divert attention from the real issues! Presently as I am typing these words there isn't ONE FRUM JEWISH GIRL in the army that didn't want to be there.
And the frum parties don't give a damn about whether girls go to the army or not, they don't care about Shabbos, and they don't even care about Kashrus!
When was the last time you heard a protest against Shabbos? When is the last time you saw a protest against Girls going to the army? Last year there was a protest because the Police arrested a girl who claimed she was frum, she was from a frum family, but we all found out that she was a "mechallel Shabbos" in the open ... the protests soon stopped. The Eida Hachreidis controls the frum Kashrut empire so any law passed in the knesset has zero effect on the frum community!
Last week there was a huge protest because a Satmar Chusid by the name of Teitelbaum defaced with graffiti a brand new wall in a brand new Apartment complex in Beit Shemesh, when they arrested this criminal they found out that he never registered for the draft and so they arrested him. And there were protests in Yerushalayim, they soon found out that he damaged millions of shekels worth of equipment doing work on the Light Rail. He will sitting for a long time! He is a criminal defacing someone else's property. They stopped the protests when they found out his criminal background!
Learn Tanach and you will see that this imperfect government is better than anything that we ever had when we had Jewish Kings that were Oveid Avoda Zara and were a bunch of murderers!
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"I don't burn Israeli flags. But I understand why some people do. You shouldn't have a hard time understanding it."
OMG this guy actually "understands" why some people burn the flag. You "understand"how a Jew burns the Jewish symbol? So what should we say when antisemites do it? How low have we sunk?
The askanim are raising awareness to normal people about some widespread Purim practices that are offensive to our neighbors. Normal people don't burn the Israeli flag, and those who do wouldn't be affected by non-satmar askanim telling them not to. It would be pointless to mention it, and it doesn't belong together with the issues they raised. (Now let's see if you'll approve this comment).
Hershy
You missed my entire point
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