Rav Shteinman backtracks under pressure and says that anyone who joins Nachal Chareidi is doing an "unforgivable sin" Update

It wasn't too long ago when there was massive protests against Rav Shteinman at the Atrium in Monsey because he had made statements that Bochrim that don't learn should join the IDF!

I was there myself bringing my son to The Atrium so that he would be able to see the "Gadol Hador" and I was met with thousands of anti-Shteinman protesters outside, that were screaming "Yemach Shemo V'Zicro " using Rav Shteinman's name!

Now the Gadol sends a letter R' Don Segal that those joining the "Nachal Chareidie" contingent of the IDF are "mechallei shabbos" and "chayev kares"

The gemarrah debated this issue 2,000 years ago when hundreds of Jewish soldiers refused to be mechallel shabbos during the time of the Maccabians and were brutally murdered by the Syrian-Greeks, the Tanaim then paskened that any Jewish soldier that is in the army can be mechallel shabbos.

The gemarrah has also said that in the times of Moshiach the leaders of the Jewish people will be afraid to say what's really on their mind 

"Pnie Kelev K'pnei Doro"

Vahmeivin Yavin!

Now read the letter!

UPDATED

I'v just been notified that this is an old undated letter!

To the honor of my friend the gaon and tzaddik, R’ Don Segal may HaShem watch over him. Pleasant tidings on his right forever.

Since he has heard a widespread and continued report suggesting that I am in support of the idea of Nachal Charedi, that bochurim who are weak in Torah study or in Yiras Shomayim will benefit from being there and understandably such a thought would never enter my mind, what was discussed in the beginning was that bochurim who are mechallelei Shabbos and actually committing other grave transgressions for which the punishment is kareis. And the father wants to save the boy and to save the street from enduring damage that we do not have the power to withhold him but for sure it is an unforgivable sin if he were to persuade or entice in any possible way which might cause anyone who is not a mechallel Shabbos or committing other chayivei kerisos to be placed there.

And as a rule I refrain from replying about this issue because the way of some people even from those who are considered to be charedim for the word of HaShem is that they explain everything with all sorts of theories and they enjoy to cast blame on people, may HaShem forgive since perhaps their intention is for Heaven’s sake but since his honor and greatness is known to me that he isn’t chas v’shalom among those who seek to malign I am writing to you. We may hope to HaShem Yisborach that there be an increase of those who study Torah and of those who are servants of HaShem Yisborach which through their merit HaShem will have mercy on His nation and redeem us the eternal redemption.

his friend who respects him in his high esteem

A.L. Shteinman

Hundreds of Chareidim At NYPD Headquarters To Congratulate Promotion Of Ira (Yitzy) Jablon To Lieutenant !

What a Topsy turvy world we live in ....hundreds of Chareidim drooling and falling over themselves to congratulate Yitzy Jablon on his promotion to Lieutenant in the NYPD!
Now, I'm actually very proud of him, and I think he deserves the accolades given to him .

However, if he was in the IDF (Chas V'eshulim), these same guys would be ripping off his uniform and throwing stones at him like Arabs.

So let's understand, if a guy decides to help out and protect his brothers and sisters in the holy land and joins the IDF, the "gedoilim" say its "yehreg v'al yaavor" but if he joins the NYPD to help the shvartzas , then we fawn over him as if he was a G-D!

Monsey Rabbonim are busy with the Goy St. Lawrence while Jews in Israel Are Being Murdered!

When was the last time anyone drove on Route 306 or Route 59 in Monsey? 

Did you notice  developments being built, without giving any thought for any space for school buses to pick and drop off children, causing massive dangerous bottlenecks?

Just this morning I saw an EMT Ambulance trying to maneuver thru traffic on 306, at the Belzer Yeshivah, a building  that doesn't have a driveway for a bus to pick up and drop off children, and the ambulance was stuck in traffic for 8 precious minutes while the School bus was dropping off it's passengers on Route 306! Don't forget that when a bus has it's red lights on, traffic stops in both directions!

Can you imagine having your loved ones in that ambulance?

Did you see any space for children to play? 

Did you notice any greenery?

Did you wonder what happened to this once beautiful community?

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm all for development.... I'm all for building new Yeshivos...... 
Why not build developments that have a niche carved out so buses can safely pick up and drop off children? 
Why not build a "shtikel playground?
Where are the children supposed to play?

Did you notice the new development on Route 59 near the Finkelstein Library? 
Did you notice the children playing on the parking lots where cars come in and out constantly?

Did you notice the development recently put up on Route 306 with absolutely no place for children to play?
And who do you think moves into these developments? 
Chassidim, who have at least 5 children per family, that means hundreds of children roaming close to the cars whizzing by!
A tragedy waiting to happen!

Who endorses these crazy zoning laws allowing these developers to  build these dangerous houses, unfettered, and with total impunity?

You guessed it! The Rabbonim! 

So why would a Rav, a Ben Torah allow this atrocity to go on?
Because the developers bribe them!
There I said it!

But do you know what gets me? 
The Chassidishe Monseyeites found money to publish an entire newspaper with the entire 36 pages dedicated to electing this goy St Lawrence, a goy that is being bought by the developers!

Not only that .... they call it an "emergency election," and they write that if St. Lawrence is not elected as Town Supervisor, the anti-Semites will Chas V'Sholem get in!

Get it? They themselves caused this massive Chillul Hashem, turning Monsey into a huge parking lot with houses built on top of these parking lots , and they are wondering why the Monsey Goyim want to put an end to this?

There isn't even enough Yeshivos built in Monsey to accommodate these kids .... There are Hundreds .... yes hundreds of children with no Yeshivois! 
There was a bunch of Rabbonim that put an ad in the Yated and Der Yid, and Der Blatt begging Chassidim to first check out if there is room for their children in the Yeshivois before they move into Monsey!

Meanwhile in Israel, Jews are being murdered and stabbed, and what do the Rabbonim think is an Emergency?
Electing St. Lawrence der goy!

Nobody printed a special free edition to talk about the matzav of our brothers and sisters in Israel! 

Shame on us for allowing this! 
Woe to the residents of Monsey that only care about electing and bribing a goy! 

Did a Rebbie Kill Chaim Weiss in 1986?

On November 1, 1986, at approximately 7:50 AM, Chaim Weiss a third year rabbinical student at Torah High School, a Jewish Orthodox Yeshiva, was found murdered, by unknown person(s). His body was discovered in his dormitory located at 63 East Beech Street, Long Beach, NY. Photo: Nassau Police

 It’s been nearly three decades since 15-year-old yeshiva student Chaim Weiss was bludgeoned to death with a “hatchet-like weapon” in his Yeshiva of Long Beach dormitory on Long Island.

Law enforcement authorities reopened the cold case three years ago and interviewed 100 former students, but still came up empty as to who was responsible for the heinous and cold blooded murder that took place on Halloween night 29 years ago.

“It’s one that has really stuck with me,” retired Detective Robert Edwards told the Daily News (http://nydn.us/1P9I6Vl).

 “He was sleeping in his room, a place that is supposed to be safe.” Edwards said some 140 students were initially interviewed when the crime was first committed, but they all “lawyered  up” and claimed they didn’t know what happened. “We got nothing,” Edwards recalled.

Yeshiva administrators went to check on Weiss after he did not attend Sabbath morning prayers on November 1, 1986, and discovered his body. His skull was crushed from the blunt force trauma he had sustained to the head. The murder weapon was never recovered.

Weiss’ Staten Island-based parents are still distraught by the loss of their son and are hoping for answers. His father, Anton, visits Chaim’s grave every year before the anniversary of his murder. He also routinely meets with the Nassau County police captain who is assigned to the case.

Police have said there were several strange things about the way the body was discovered. His body had been moved to the floor, a window had been opened in the room, and a memorial candle was placed in the room – all rituals in accordance with Jewish tradition. Weiss was one of only two students who didn’t have a roommate, and there was no sign of a struggle or anything missing from the room.

FILE - Anton Weiss the father of Chaim addresses the media on May 28 2013 at Nassau County police dept. in Mineola, NY. Others in photo, Det. lt. John Azzata, commanding officer Nassau county police homicide squad, Chief of detectives John Capece, Inspector Ken Lack, commanding officer public, information office, Nassau county executive Edward Mangano, Nassau county police chaplin rabbi Barry Dov Schwartz. Photo: Mo Gelber/VINNews.com

Investigators have ruled out initial suspects, including a mentally ill man, Halloween pranksters, and a janitor. The police now believe the murder was committed by a fellow student or a faculty member.

“How could this happen and nobody hear or say anything? Somebody’s got a secret,” said Nassau County Police Capt. John Azzata.

Azzata said police still plan to interview another 100 former students again, in the hopes that maturity may have changed their minds about speaking up. “People are aware of what transpired back then and you’d hope with maturity they’d come forward now,” Azzata said. “That hasn’t happened yet.”

Rabi Yair Hoffman throws Yitzchok Frankfurter of Ami Under the Bus!

I really don't have a dog in this fight, but I think that Rabbi Hoffman has it in for Frankfurter, so he waited, lurking in the shadows, waiting for The Frank to say something crazy. Sure enough Hoffman didn't have to wait long. 

It seems that Yitzy Frankfurter said, that Rabbi Elazar, an Amorah of the  first generation of Amoraim, was a depressed guy!

Well, Hoffman would have nothing of that ... and attacked him mercilessly !



By Rabbi Yair Hoffman,

Generally speaking, we should be open and tolerant of views and interpretations of others that may differ from ours.

BREACH IN THE MESORAH
Sometimes, however, when we perceive a breach in the Mesorah of the interpretation of a passage in the Talmud and it is presented as fact, it is incumbent upon others to vocalize their dissent. This is particularly true when the misinterpretation has no substantive linguistic indication to that effect within the text.
The essay in question stated that Rabbi Elazar, of the first generation of Amoraim, was suffering from mental illness. The essay was penned by Rabbi Yitzchok Frankfurter, the editor of Ami Magazine, whom I generally consider a Talmid Chochom. Nonetheless, the particular essay (issue 237 entitled “A Look Inside Psych Wards”) struck this author as troubling.

THE GEMORAH IN BRACHOS
Rabbi Frankfurter based this assertion on a passage in Brachos 5b which states as follows:
Rabbi Elazar once became sick. Rabbi Yochanan came to visit him and saw that he was sleeping in a dark room. Whereupon Rabbi Yochanan uncovered his own arm and immediately the room grew light. Rabbi Yochanan then noticed that Rabbi Elazar was weeping. Rabbi Yochanan asked, “Why are you weeping? Is it because you have not learned Torah sufficiently? Behold we are taught, ‘No matter whether one offers much or little – only the intentions of one’s heart counts for the sake of Heaven.’ Is it because you are in need and poor? Not everyone receives a table in the world to come and a table here. Is it because of trouble from your children? Here is a bone from my tenth son. “I weep,” responded Rabbi Elazar for that beauty which will ultimately decay in the earth.” Rabbi Yochanan responded, “For that you really ought to weep.” Both wept together. Rabbi Yochanan then asked of him, “Do you love afflictions?” Rabbi Elazar answered, “Neither them nor their rewards.” “Then give me your hand.” Rabbi Elazar did so and was made well.

RABBI FRANKFURTER’S TWO ASSERTIONS
Rabbi Frankfurter writes, “It is clear that Rabbi Elazar was suffering on a psychological level from a pall of darkness enveloping his mind, rather than from physical disease.” He bases his interpretation on the fact that Rabbi Yochanan did not ask Rabbi Elazar if the reason he was crying was on account of poor health or physical pain. Rabbi Frankfurter then suggests that Rabbi Yochanan is engaging in “existential psychotherapy” in his discussion with Rabbi Elazar.

INJECTING SECULAR THINKING INTO TORAH TEXTS
There is an unfortunate tendency for people to, at times, get caught up in their mada studies, in their Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, and Rank philosophies, and then retro-inject them into various Gemorahs and Midrashim that they come across with forced readings. Existentialist psychotherapy is strictly an early 20th century phenomenon. Injecting this type of therapy into the interpretation of a Gemorah with no Meforshim backing it up is anachronistic.
The results are not just incorrect readings of Torah texts, but there are two other repercussions as well: There are grave methodological missteps where, for example, an early Amorah is labelled as someone who is mentally ill; and the traditions of the classical commentators on our texts are entirely ignored.

THE TRADITIONAL INTERPRETATIONS
This Gemorah has been amply and adequately interpreted throughout the generations.
The Ran understands this passage to mean that “in a dark room” means that Rabbi Elazar, Rabbi Yochanan’s student was destitute. Rabbi Yochanan opened his hand in generosity.
The Or HaChaim HaKadosh, the Nesivos, and the Malbim all interpret “sleeping in a dark room” as headed toward his ultimate demise which is called “a dark room.” Rabbi Yochanan was thus attempting to inspire Rabbi Elazar not to give up his will to live despite the sufferings of his illness.
Rabbi Avrohom Kara, a contemporary of Rabbi Akiva Eiger and author of the Ayil HaMeluim explains “in a dark room” to mean that Rabbi Elazar looked at Rabbi Yochanan in a slightly negative light in that Rabbi Yochanan was quite wealthy and it was thought by some that he did not distribute charity in the appropriate amounts. Rabbi Yochanan revealed his light means that he showed Rabbi Elazar his hidden acts of charity.
The Gedolei HaAchronim have given numerous interpretations throughout the centuries to this passage. Not one of them, however, suggested that Rabbi Elazar was suffering from mental illness.

THE SOURCES FOR THE AMI INTERPRETATION
In response to a query from a reader named B. Mann (issue 239) about what his sources were for the interpretation, Rabbi Frankfurter responded, “The most important source for the interpretation that Rabbi Elazar’s illness was of a psychological nature is the Gemorah in Brachos (5b) which I cited.”
Rabbi Frankfurter then juxtaposes a Mishna in Shabbos (29b) that discusses extinguishing a light on Shabbos because of a ruach rah, which the Rambam interprets as mental illness. He correlates the need to extinguish a light with the fact that Rabbi Elazar was in a darkened room. It is significant to note that no commentator correlates the Mishna in Shabbos with the Gemorah in Brachos. Also, Rashi provides an entirely different understanding of Ruach Rah which would entirely rule out any basis for correlating the two passages.
Rabbi Frankfurter’s “sources” for his interpretation are technically not true sources in the classical sense, rather they are inferences that Rabbi Frankfurter perceives within the text; namely that Rabbi Elazar was in a darkened room and the dialogue between the two Rabbis expressly underscoring the psychological aspect of his suffering. As we have seen, however, there are different interpretations of this idea.
The mental illness interpretation suggested in the Ami article, however, is not novel. Reform Rabbi Ruth Adar, suggested just such an interpretation last year in her blog. The point is that such interpretations are foreign to traditional Judaism. This is not a gratuitous attack. If the only fellow travelers on a path are Reform Rabbis when the topic was dealt with by our classical meforshim for centuries, then something is clearly wrong.
Ami Magazine has always stood at the forefront of defending Torah-true Judaism. This is an important mission, and ny and large they have met this mission suscessfully. The interpretation of this passage in a manner that stands in contrast to the Rishonim and Achaonim is a violation of what Ami Magazine stands for. In this author’s opinion Rabbi Frankfurter should retract the essay.

Arabs apparently didn't read Mishpacha Magazine stab 2 Yeshivah Students

It seems that the arab savages don't read Jewish Magazines, otherwise why would they stab Yeshivah students?
Didn't  Mishpacha Magazine just write in both Arabic & Hebrew that "Arabs shouldn't stab Chareidim, because Chareidim don't go up on the Har Habayis!
I guess Arabs just want to kill all Jews, even if they don't go to the Har Habayis...
Maybe people should send all Arabs, subscriptions to Mispacha Magazine because now they write in arabic too.

Israeli medics and emergency personnel evacuate an injured Israeli man from the scene of a stabbing attack in Jerusalem October 30, 2015. REUTERS/Ammar Awad

Jerusalem - Two yeshiva students were injured in a terrorist attack near the light rail station on Jerusalem’s Ammunition Hill Friday afternoon.

The two victims, 22 and 20 years old, were evacuated to Shaare Zedek Medical Center and Hadassah University Medical center for medical treatment; They sustained light-to-moderate injuries. One of the victims was stabbed in the upper body, while the other was shot in the leg.

The terrorist was subdued after the incident and is in critical condition.

The attack was the second within the hour.

Less than an hour earlier, two Palestinian assailants approached the West Bank Tapuah Junction roadblock on a scooter. At that point they drew their knives and attempted to stab a border guard stationed at the crossing, according to a statement released by police.

One of the attackers managed to lightly injure one of the officers on the hand before the assailants were shot and subdued by an additional Border Guard stationed at the post.

One was killed in the incident, while the other remains in critical condition.

The injured officer was treated at the scene and remains in light condition.

Medics speak to an Israeli man injured during a stabbing attack in Jerusalem October 30, 2015. REUTERS

Jerry Nadler who stabbed his Jewish Constituents in the back, is crawling back like the rat that he is!

This two timing bastard, Jerry Nadler, stabbed his Jewish constituents, in the heart. These constituents are by in large either Holocaust Survivors or children of survivors.

Now that he realized that he is running for Congress again, he ran like a poisoned mouse to Ezra (the Kapo) Friedlander,  who hooked him up with the clown Yitzy "the" Frankfurter.

This clown, is the "editor" of Ami Magazine, a magazine that panders to the Satmar Chassidim .

Ami dedicated 14 pages to this piece of vermin!

THE FRANK interviewed Nadler, a man with no convictions and no morals. Nadler had the Chutzpah of voting to hand over nuclear missiles to Iran, a country that vowed to eliminate the State of Israel and its inhabitants. 

So now while Iran's satellite terrorists are stabbing Jews in the streets of Israel, stabbing men, women and children, and even while innocent Jewish blood is flowing in the streets of Yerushalyim...... Ezra, the Kapo, shlepps the fat Nadler to the "chuchim fin de Ma'Nishtana" Yitzy, to interview him so that the lying bastard can explain his treacherous vote on Iran...

Nadler apparently  knows that the naive  Jewish Chasidishe sheep will forgive him and put him back in office so that he can continue to lick the backside of Hillary Clinton who he thinks will be our next President!

Why would Ami stoop so low? 
Is it because of how much money the fat bastard will funnel to our "holy" moisdois?

What is it with us Jews, that follow this money whore, Ezra Friedlander,? 
Why do Jews listen to this admitted High School Dropout that cannot calculate a simple tip to a waiter in a restaurant, by his own admission? 

Why do we re-elect political vermin, who laugh at us, and who turn their backs on the Jewish People?

This guy, Nadler, a lying politician knew that he can kiss up to Hussain Obama and the Jews will say "thank you" and vote for this snake again!

It's time to dump him..... better vote for an open anti-Semite than for a guy that says he is for the security of Israel and then votes to place nuclear weapons in the hands of tyrants that vow to destroy us...

Cruz Rips apart the Media ! Also see the contrast of questions in Democrat debate

Here's a montage of some of these gotcha attack questions last night from the debate. 

 JOHN HARWOOD: (echo) Is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign?

 CARL QUINTANILLA: You want to bring 70,000 pages to three? Is that (crosstalk) using really small type? You've been a young man in a hurry ever since you won your first election in your 20s. Why not slow down, get a few more things done first or least finish what you start?

 BECKY QUICK: Ms. Fiorina, your board fired you. I just wondered why you think we should hire you now?

 BECKY QUICK: Bankruptcy is a broken promise. Why should the voters believe the promises that you're telling them right now?

 BECKY QUICK: Senator Rubio, you've had issues. You have a lack of bookkeeping skills. You accidentally inter-mingled campaign money with your personal money. It raises the question whether you have the maturity and the wisdom to lead a $17 trillion economy.

 CARL QUINTANILLA: Why would you serve on a company whose policies seem to run counter to your views on homosexuality? A company called Mannatech, with which you had a 10-year relationship. They paid $7 million to settle a deceptive marketing lawsuit in Texas, and yet you're involvement continued. Why?

 JOHN HARWOOD: Mr. Trump says that he is capable of growing the economy so much that Social Security and Medicare don't have to be touched. Do you want to explain how that's going to happen, Mr. Trump?

 JOHN HARWOOD: The leading Republican candidate when you look at the average of national polls right now, is Donald Trump. When you look at him, do you see someone with the moral authority to unite the country? (audience boos)

 TRUMP: Such a nasty question.

Let's contrast that with the questions in the Democrat  debate:

Dana Bash and Juan Carlos Lopez ask questions of the Democrats in their last debate.

 ANDERSON COOPER: Secretary Clinton, though, with all due respect... ANDERSON COOPER: Senator Sanders, you call yourself a Democratic socialist. How can any kind of socialist win a general election?

 ANDERSON COOPER: We're going to have a lot more on these issues. But I do want to just quickly get everybody in on the question of electability.

 ANDERSON COOPER: Secretary Clinton, is Bernie Sanders tough enough on guns?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Senator Sanders, what would you do differently?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Is she too quick to use military force? ANDERSON COOPER: Senator Sanders, I want you to be able to respond.

 ANDERSON COOPER: Who or what is the greatest national security threat?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Secretary Clinton, with all due respect, do you want to respond? 

ANDERSON COOPER: Do black lives matter, or do all lives matter?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Secretary Clinton, what would you do for African-Americans in this country that President Obama couldn't?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Senator Sanders, what are you going to be able to do that President Obama didn't?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Secretary Clinton, how would you address this issue?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Why is your plan better?

 DANA BASH: Is that something that you would support?

 JUAN CARLOS LOPEZ: Secretary Clinton, Governor O'Malley wants to open up Obamacare to millions of undocumented immigrants and their children. Do you?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Secretary Clinton, do you regret your vote on the Patriot Act?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Governor Chafee, Edward Snowden, is he a traitor or a hero?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Governor O'Malley, how would you be different than President Obama's administration?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Secretary Clinton, how would you not be a third term of President Obama?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Why should Democrats embrace an insider like yourself?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Senator Sanders, are you tougher on climate change than Secretary Clinton?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Secretary Clinton, do you regret your vote on the Patriot Act?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Governor Chafee, Edward Snowden, is he a traitor or a hero?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Governor O'Malley, how would you be different than President Obama's administration?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Secretary Clinton, how would you not be a third term of President Obama? ANDERSON COOPER: Why should Democrats embrace an insider like yourself?

 ANDERSON COOPER: Senator Sanders, are you tougher on climate change than Secretary Clinton?

There wasn't one gotcha. 

There wasn't one question that even got near whether or not these people are qualified.  

There aren't any characterizing of these candidates as buffoonish or as cartoonish.  

There were no references to any of the negatives of any of these people.  

Mrs. Clinton didn't get a question about her husband's philandering.  She didn't get one question about her own questionable foundation with all of the dubious donations.  The questions that happened on the e-mail discouraging were brushed over by Bernie Sanders. 

This is what passes for tough questions of Democrats.  What you just read, that's what passes as tough questions.  That's as much as they will ever face.  This is as tough a questioning as any Democrat candidate will ever face.  By the way, Frank Luntz said that he has never had in his focus group of these people with their dials recording their responses as they hear things, he's never, never had anybody get anywhere near the territory that Ted Cruz got in audience approval when he finally got fed up with the line and nature of questioning last night and just tore into these assassins.

Supreme Court President cuts off bereaved mother

In shocking turn of events, judge cuts off testimony of mother of terror victim, saying 'there are limits to what you can say here.'

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By Shlomo Pyotrkovsky

Naor the crazed bitch

At the Supreme Court discussion Thursday regarding the demolition of the homes of seven Arab terrorists, who murdered seven Jews, Supreme Court 

President Miriam Naor shocked attendees by rebuking the mother of a terror victim for speaking.

Devora Gonen, the mother of Danny Gonen who was shot to death by Arab terrorists in June while hiking north of Jerusalem, arrived in the court to present her position to the judges in requesting that they demolish the home of her son's murderer. The demolition was postponed by a Supreme Court judge last Thursday.

Gonen was forced to wait a long time before being allowed to speak, along with other bereaved parents including Eliezer Rosenfeld, father of Malachi Rosenfeld who was murdered last June outside the town of Shvut Rachel as he was returning home with three friends from a basketball game.

"Danny was the supporting pillar of the family," Gonen said painfully, when she was finally given the opportunity to speak.
"The murdered have become invisible. You turned the victims into the guilty party. I hear how unfortunate the families of the terrorists are - we aren't...?"

At that point, and to the great surprise of those in attendance, Naor cut into Gonen's words, saying, "even a bereaved mother has limits as to what she can say here. The madam will not use the rights given to her here so as to fling accusations."

There was a stunned silence following the Supreme Court president's words.

The court on Thursday held the meeting so as to discuss the petitions of the families of the terrorists, who asked the Supreme Court to order the security system not to carry out the demolition orders on their houses.
Before the hearing, Rosenfeld said, "I do not sleep at night. It is truly appalling to hear about the rights of the families of murderers. Apparently they have rights, but we do not. Nothing apparently happened to us – obviously I am being cynical. It's not just the parents, but the relatives, friends, and schoolmates who suffer from the loss." 

Mishpacha Magazine asks Arabs to stop stabbing Chareidim, Non-Chareidim apparently ok to stab!

So this is what the Chareidie world is coming to. They hate the IDF (notice they stopped throwing stones at IDF while the stabbing spree is on), they hate the Medina, are prepared to relinquish all Jewish presence on the Har Habayis and now are asking the Arabs to stop stabbing them because they don't have a dog in this fight!

To them "Kol Yisroel Chaveirim" is only a nice statement for the Chazzan to say during Rosh Choidesh Benthching but not in actual practice!

They refuse to understand that Arabs like Hitler YM"S will kill all Jews and throw the Chiloinim and the Chareidiem in the same oven!

It's interesting to note that the Zionist IDF doesn't distinguish between Chareidim and Chilonim, they protect all Jews alike. 

During the Entebbe Raid ... no one in the Israeli cabinet said "let's only save the chiloinim"

And therein lies the problem and why Israeli's, Frum and otherwise, have problems with Chareidim. 

This feeds the issue that Chareidim care only for themselves and to the detriment of others. Everyone should pay more taxes to support them, everyone's children should risk their lives to protect them but not their children whether they are learning or not and even if other people's children are learning. The fact that Chareidi Shuls don't even have the decency to make a Mishabeirach for those who do risk their lives, adds much fuel to these feelings..

I do not believe that the average Chareidi is that callous and uncaring. The problem lies in their leadership, especially their political leadership.

It's time for the average Chareidi to stand up and insist these vile comments and utter stupidity STOP!

You have to question the real value of the Torah learning of misfits who actually think like that.

The Charedi Mishpacha newspaper created a social media firestorm on Thursday after it published an opinion article in which the first paragraph, printed in Arabic and in Hebrew, asked that since members of the haredi public do not go up to the Temple Mount “could you please stop murdering us.”

The article, written by Mishpacha Magazine deputy editor Aryeh Ehrlich, explained how the haredi community refrains from going up to the Temple Mount since the haredi rabbinic leadership prohibits visiting the site.

Almost all leading haredi rabbis and arbiters of Jewish law rule that Jews may not visit the Temple Mount since they may enter areas that are forbidden to enter without undergoing purification rituals which cannot be conducted today.

“Us, the haredi community, we have no interest in going up to the Temple Mount in our time,” Ehrlich writes. “We oppose this vehemently. Moreover, Jewish law see this as a severe prohibition - punished by spiritual excommunication.”

“So even if you have solid information on Israeli desires to change the status quo at the Dome of the Rock - something which is incorrect to the best of our knowledge - the haredi community has no connection to it. So please, stop murdering us.”

In the rest of the article, the Mishpacha deputy editor observed that several victims of the recent spate of terror attacks have been from the haredi community, and wrote that he was trying to understand why this was the case.

He went on to detail a conversation he had with an Arab worker at a Rami Levi store and he tried to convince him that members of the haredi public do not go up to the Temple Mount.

Ehrlich was subjected to fierce condemnation on social media once awareness of the article spread.

“How wretched and ghetto like can you be? Is this your version of ‘loving your neighbor as yourself’? Of loving your fellow Jew,?” asked one person on Twitter. “Are you are calling on Arabs not to murder haredim because they don’t go up to the Temple Mount but insinuating ‘go and murder those who do? Disgusting. What about just calling on them not to murder. It would be more humane and more Jewish.”

One talkbacker on haredi website B’hadrei Haredim exclaimed “What about other Jews who aren’t haredi, them you should kill?????”

“The Mishpacha newspaper is turning to murderers to ask them not to murder haredim…everyone else is okay apparently. (He forgot that the pogrom in 1929 was because Jews went to visit the Western Wall),” tweeted far-right former MK Michael Ben-Ari.

Following the outrage prompted by his article, Ehrlich took to Twitter and said that he was trying to explain in his article that the Islamic Movement in Israel was trying to create a religious war and has urged Palestinians to attack people with a religious appearance.

“My article in the Mishpacha Magazine says: This religious war is wild incitement based in imaginary rumors. Most people who observe the religious commandments don’t go to the Temple Mount, if only because of the religious prohibition. The article was trying, naively it must be admitted, to tear the away the mask from the murderous Palestinian aggression which has been going on for decades, and to neutralize the false Islamic incitement.”

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