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Sunday, January 4, 2015

Mashgichim going crazy because Rav Kanievsky said Bugs in Orange Juice are OK


Mashgichim are always on the lookout for more and more kashrus issues!
Why?
Because as long as there are issues, there will be Parnassah for them..

Years ago, I had a close friend that worked in the catering business and related to me horror stories. 

He explained, for example, that most appetizers at weddings are salads....
So when Gush Katif closed down, he had to start watching out for bugs in the lettuce! 

He couldn't buy bodek, since his average wedding had 400 people.... that would amount to a fortune!..
So he bought Romaine on the market and washed them and some erlicher guy would go over most of the batch as proscribed by the Shulchan Aruch.

The Heimishe Hashgacha Company that he employed smelled $$$$$$$$$, so they ruled that the Shulchan Aruch means nothing and the Catering company needs a mashgiach to look over each and every lettuce...
So you can just imagine the scene on the day of the wedding, having 10 to 15 kollel guys now looking over the lettuce.. and now had to charge extra for this Chumrah that the client didn't want!

Then this particular Hashgacha decided that the Vodka "Grey Goose" was no good, even though its on the Star K and O U Lists... 
So this friend now had to fight with the customer, because the customer couldn't understand , " why he was disallowing the vodka, when its on the kosher list and the Caterer wasn't even  supplying the product. So even though he had nothing to do with Liquor, the customer couldn't put "Grey Goose" on the tables and couldn't give him a proper explanation. 

The came the grape situation... did you know that grapes have insects? Well, nobody knows that... and even the grapes don't know that...but the Baal hamachsher who needed to feed his 10 fledglings he must have known that, and now required that a Mashgiach wash each and every grape and inspect them!

The blueberry situation came next, with the Mashgiach telling him that only a mashgiach could wash and inspect each and every blueberry,
since the Kollel guys were experts in "blueberry insects"
Now my friend couldn't use strawberries, blueberries, grapes and couldn't have the customer bring his own kosher Grey Goose...because it wasn't worth hiring all these guys to inspect each and every single fruit and it wasn't worth fighting with the Baal Hamachsher over the Vodka!

The Truth is that Grapes and Blueberries have a Chazaka that it doesn't have insects ...and therefore does not require inspection and especially doesn't require 'expert' inspection.... 

So what happened?
I'll tell you what happened...... it's a secret so don't spread it around...
According to the Shulchan Aruch, you do not have to inspect each and every Romaine leaf...
anyone that tells you that is a LIAR!

The Shulchan Aruch requires that you check "roiv"
For example if you buy a box of Romaine at Costco which contains 5 bags, those 5 bags become one batch. 
You open the first bag at random and inspect  100 leaves and if there are no insects in those 100 leaves the entire bag is Kosher with no further inspection needed from that bag. 
The other 4 bags just require you to take a little bunch from each bag and inspect..

Now if you inspected the first 100 leaves and found an insect, you are required to begin to count again 100 insect free leaves. Also if you found an insect in the other 4 bags from the bunch that you took out, you have to begin counting from that bag 100 insect free leaves!

Now Bodek and Positive do the same thing, but they won't tell you that....
 These companies have tremendous $$$$$$ at stake, so they pressure the Hashgacha Companies to discourage the "oilim goilim" from buying  Romaine and Iceberg lettuce , to promote their own interests!
Bodek and Positive also are under Hashgacha, and its in the interest of the Bodek and Positive Mashgichim to push Bodek and Positive products!
So, Yes, its all a money thing..

Lately there were rumors that there are insects in Tropicana Orange Juice! What I don't understand is that New Square Orange Juice is Tropicana, why wasn't there a problem with New Square Orange Juice?

So now a guy from the 5 Towns Jewish Times went to Israel to meet Rav Kanievsky with a recorder to establish and clarify once and for all the story with the OJ!



Mr. Larry Gordon, owner of the Five Towns Jewish Times, visited Rav Chaim Kanievsky Shlita on Sunday afternoon at a little bit before 4:00 PM and presented him with a number of Halachic shailos from the United States. These shailos were written in Hebrew and Rav Chaim read them himself and then responded. His responses were videotaped.

In a previous article regarding Tropicana orange juice, I (rabbi Yair Hoffman) had presented 4 factors in which Poskim might either forbid or permit the orange juice, even though scale bugs are being consistently found in each cup of the juice.
The fourth factor dealt with whether there is an obligation to remove an item that cannot be identified as a bug to the naked eye of a trained expert within the mixture—even though he may be able to identify it as a bug were it not in a mixture.

Below, we reproduce the first question that was posed and Rav Chaim’s response. 

Rav Chaim said that the Tropicana juice would be permitted.
1. יש חוקרים בחו”ל שמצאו במין אחד של מיץ תפוזים תולעים (בשם סקייל באגז). ורק מוציאים את התולעים עם מגדלת לאחר שסיננו את המיץ עם בד דק דק. ואי אפשר לראות את התולעים בתוך ה”בד הסינון” בלא המגדלת. ולוקחים את התולעת על ידי מחט ומניחים אותו על נייר. ועכשיו שאין התולעת בתוך המיץ – אפשר למומחה לראותו בעינים אף בלי מגדלת מה שלא היה אפשר לפני-כן. ובכל כוס וכוס התולעים האלו נמצאים. האם זה נחשב למוחזק בתולעים? האם יש חיוב לסננן את המיץ לפני ששותים אותו?
There are investigators in USA that found scale bugs in orange juice. They only find the bugs with a jeweler’s loupe magnifying glass after they strain it with a very thin cloth. It is not possible to see the bugs in the cloth without the magnifier. They take the bug with a needle and place it on a piece of paper. Now that the bug is no longer in the juice an expert can see it – even with his eyes – something not possible beforehand. In each and every cup these bugs are found. Is this considered muchzak b’tolayim? Is there an obligation to filter the juice before one drinks it?
לא צריך לחשוש.
A Talmid Chochom that was present when the question was posed explained that it was on account of the fourth factor that Rav Chaim ruled in this manner.


38 comments:

Anonymous said...

This blog is a Tabloid site, posting sensational sarcastic half truths and whole lies, frum EHRLICHE people, whether lay men or Rabbonim are always looked upon as money grabbing individuals, finding fault in everything they do or say, this blogspot portrays himself as THE know it all, whether in Halacha, Hashkafa, or in Kashrus, HE and with him derby (the ferd) are actually 2 uneducated uncivilized mean people, who hate HKBH for giving Klal Yisroel a TORAH that has so many MITZVOS, they go by the ZIONIST dogma, that its about time to follow in the way of Christians and most other religions that disposed of TORAH MISINAI, these 2 scoundrels practice Judaism the Zionist way, forget all about TORAH Umitzvos, just Chibas Haaretz, every single post is witness to this abomination. Its so obvious to anybody and everyone, (besides you two).

Anonymous said...

Mr. Anonymous, DIN is 100% right. The kashrus business is all about money. Does the name Moshe Finkel ring a bell? Sorry, but if R' Chaim says its ok, then its ok with me. You wanna be a machmir, thats ur problem.

Dusiznies said...

10:35
Kish mich vee dee yeeden huben ge'reet!

Anonymous said...

This is exactly what this site is all about, SINAS CHINOM, NIVUL PEH.

Anonymous said...

I definitely don't have a problem with what HARAV KANYEVSKY paskened, he is one of the few gedolei tora, who are also bilti lashem levado, what's problematic here is the sarcasm, the vilifying of those that have another opinion, this is something that you come across in this low class blog in every single post, there is no decent explanation for this, other than this blogger is a rotten mean spiteful selfish self hating Jew.

Anonymous said...

12:07 - I actually agree with this blog re satmar. Never has satmar spewed so much sinas chinom as it has since the 2 mamzerim zalli and aron took over. Reb Yoilish ztl would be ashamed.

Anonymous said...

What does Zionism have to do with worms in orange juice??

You proved that you're MLD...



Rabbanit Tammy Kol Toov...

Ah.... Wish I still had my Buick Special... It had so much "traction"....


Oh, I almost forgot... MLD ... Meshuga Leoso Dovor...
Now, when do you open a sefer ? Before or after Vasikin??

Dusiznies said...

12:07
You know what I love about you?
That you have a sense of humor!

You scribble:
"what's problematic here is the sarcasm, the vilifying of those that have another opinion,"

Are you by any chance talking about yourself?

Anonymous said...

Well the fact is that when the Satmar Ruv was alive the hate towards him by the Zionist/Israeli controlled media was much more than to what's today, actually his life was in danger, so don't give us the b.s. that it's since the two brothers took over
And btw KOL HAPOSEL BEMUMO POSEL go check yourself out if you're not a mamzer

Dusiznies said...

3:12
His life was in danger? so now I understand why the Zionist police escorted him all over the Zionist State when he visited there in 1959!
Why wasn't he afraid to go to Israel in 1959, and wasn't afraid to get on the Kastner Zionist Train?

But I'll tell you this, The Kloizenberger Rebbe z"l was afraid of Him and his hooligans , and ran to Union City..

Anonymous said...

WHAT? You really think that i thought for one second that you're going to admit to my statement? And can you please tell me why you chose only 1959? Well actually there was an issue with his security and like it or not OUR MALCHUS SHEL CHESED THE USA GAVE A STERN WARNING TO THE REGIME IN TEL AVIV TO SECURE HIS TRIP! And it was the local police NOT the military who secured the traffic NOT him personally,for that private security were hired

Anonymous said...

The Holy Satmar Rebbe the DIVREI YOEL knew that his life was in danger in Eretz Yisroel, killing someone who stands in their way, is non problematic, as they the Zionists inherited the Sword from their Uncle Esav, for instance killing Dr. Dihan was a breeze, so the Rebbe was aware that the Zionists might kill him, still he was MOSER NEFESH in order to be mechazek the EHRLICHE yidden, ASHER LO KORUU LABBAAL HATZIYONI, as he lived with HKBH 24/7. Witness his SIYATA DISHMAYA, when the MEDINA HATMEIEH was proclaimed, 99% of Klal Yisroel was drunk with the NITZACHON of the samech alef, so much so, that the Sheila was if you should say Halel with a Bracha or not, but Halel for sure, taking in consideration that Klal Yisroel had just suffered the Holocaust, now BH many years later Klal Yisroel has vehemently rejected the Zionist Dogma, and only part of the seculars and some like this blogger and company derby (the ferd), still believe in the Avodah Zara Hatzioni, OD Lo ALMAN YISROEL, the yidden who are Real Shomre TORAH are fiercely ANTIZIONST, and intimately know, that ZIONISM is ANTI HKBH, ANTI TORAH, and this TAMENE MEDINA is the reason we're still in GALUS, may Hashem abolish this abomination in our days.

Dusiznies said...

4:51
So are you saying that there was no Israeli Police around the Rebbe and it was a private security Force?

Was this force Israeli? Were they Zionists? Were they Satmar Hooligans that was guarding the Rebbe?

And are you saying that the USA warned Israel not to Kill the Rebbe?

Let me understand.... you are saying that the Rebbe violated a "lav in the Holy Torah that states "USHMARTIM NAFSHOSICEM" .... knowing that the Israelis were going to harm him, he put himself in danger anyway? And was oiver this clear Issur?

Hey, 4:51 ...
What are you smoking? I got to get some of that stuff right away!

Anonymous said...

Mean vile aam haaretz, thats what you are, the REBBE and others like him are allowed to be moser nefesh for any mitzva, see yore deoh 157 1.

Anonymous said...

DIN- See pri Magadim on why when there is a chazakah that all pieces have bugs (like lettuce) you have to check every piece.
Also, The difference between Tropicana and other orange juices is that Tropicana blends up the orange peel to make the juice as well while most companies do not use the peel. The peel has most of the problem with the bugs. Also, not saying that this question/answer telling over are inaccurate but it is a kasha from what rav Chaim kanievsky himself says in the front of Taama Dkra (printed like 40 years ago) which says that the Chazon Ish told his mother(i.e the stieplers wife) the sift orange juice before serving it because of this concern.

Dusiznies said...

6:30
First of all the Steipler married the Chazon Ish's Sister...
They were brother-in-laws!
Second of all the Mechaber in Yoreh Deah explicitly states that you don't have to check each and every leaf, roiv is all you need,and that's the way ALL poiskim hold, and of course the mechaber is talking about when the lettuce is muchzik!
The ones who dont hold like that and pasken like the Pri Megadim is the NIrbarter, who has a million dollar Hashgacha business!

Anonymous said...

What's all this fuss???

I don't know what happened in '59, but if somebody curses my country with the vilest words and considers it illegal,calls for its destruction, etc...blah, blah, blah.... I'd turn him around at the airport ASAP and wouldn't let him in. If he DOES enter, he enters at his own risk. Period.
Don't know if it's true, but read someplace that it was the Hungarian survivors who were enraged with him & gave him a hard time , and they had a hand in him leaving after he settled there after the war. True ??? .

Now Seymour, the Bal Vasikin, the "modern Yerushalmi with 2 degrees" , I finally figured you out.
You actually enjoy being here and reading the deiyos kozvos, Zionist apikorsus, etc.... This is exciting for you, admit it.
Here you are, Anonymous, your family thinks you're deep in learning, but you're here tasting forbidden fruit and lapping it up.
You remind me of the preacher who hocks against legalizing prostitution, then strolls incognito in the Red Light districts all over the world and getting horny as heck...

You're like the ultra frummie who preaches chumra kashrus down to the little bugs in Malaga cocktails, then secretly sneaks into MacDonald's and chows down on some pork chops Macs & moist bacon...
You say to yourself, Mr. Vasikin.... " Az ich ess shoyn yu chazzer, zoll shoyn rinnen fin mohl..."... Atta Boy...!!!!

Most normal people stay away from sites, blogs, books, people, etc. who irritate them or make them upset & anxious.... I know I'm that way... But you, Seymour, the Rabbonim curser, the one with the Islamofascist lines word for word.... You, come here like a bad penny ..

Yeah....
You enjoy being here. It's exciting when your family & friends believe you're hurre'ving over a R' Akivah Eiger, and you're secretely soaking up deyios kozvos...... You have very strong doubts about your SHYT'ta... Who wouldn't ???


Derby...

He knows everything... From Munkatcher Rebbetzin's gatches, to the Lubavitcher Rebbe's married life, to the Sakmar Rebbe's bodyguards... And boy, lemme tell you... He curses like a drunken sailor in a noisy brothel... Nivel Pee/poo against holy rebbes like you'll never believe...

Anonymous said...

What did I say just last week??? Ha ha ha hah !!
Wanna get rich? Either the kvorim--tra-la hopping tra-la-la business OR kashrus ...nuch a ziggel, nuch a ziggel, nuch a ziggel, nuch a kashron, noch a tzveiter kashron...one more symbol..

Too bad I'm not so ambitious... My advice to the ambitious:

Kashrus is the way to go...
Kevorim--tra-la-la hopp-popping tra-la-la, is too much work...

L'chol Hapoochis auf Tziloochis & Tammy Kol Toov... subbing for Derby who's checking potato chips for Zionists..

Anonymous said...

DIN-Thats exactly what I said-- the Rav Chaim Kanievsky says the chazon ish told his mother (i.e rav chaim kanievsky's mother who was married to the stiepler and the sister of the chazon ish).
The S'A's case is (look it up) when bugs dropped into it. Meaning there is a vadai that it is somewhere in the pile but not a chazakah that it is on every piece.

Anonymous said...

You don't know what happened in '59 but i don't know what cocktail you consumed before writing your comment
You started out with, you don't know what happened in 59 and it's continued with someone settling there WHERE after the war and being kicked out etc etc. Than we bh got to the point where the booze is having a real affect on you to the extent that you figured out something about Seymour Munkatcher gatches Bal vasikin (whatever that means) LUBABTCHIK REBBE and sakmar bodyguards LOL
And boy lemme tell you your entire comment makes the same sense as all your writings kenusach a real Hungarian SMIRNOFF drinker AKA born again chatzzatzker
And don't try to show so much your ego regarding YOUR country because the time is VERY soon that it's gonna disappear from the horizon and you'll be the biggest fool

Anonymous said...

"....Bal vasikin (whatever that means) ..."
Don't even try it. You want me to pull your ramblings and show them? Just like you denied you wrote " Zero Zali & Bande "
Like I said, you're trying to be incognito, but we know who you really are. A hypocrite, trolling in a mokom metunif of deiyos kozvos & Zionist propaganda and it's all delicious to you, 'cause the bnai bayis believes you're at a shiyur being Mevarer and badlaning something or another..
And you're not even good at it.... Disguising yourself with that huge umbrella and shapeless shmegegee plastic covering your hat at the sound of a raindrop like the other shmeggs.... All the while the bottle sticking out of your coat pocket... with your breath that kicks.... LOL...

Derby.... Does anybody else hear something that sounds like ... Gulp, gulp, belch, gulp, belch..??

Anonymous said...

"....and only part of the seculars and some like this blogger and company derby (the ferd), still believe in the Avodah Zara Hatzioni, ....

No.. 99 % believe in religious Zionism.... The rest of you ( continuing from the previous thread ) have been bought... I want to see an investigation on the trail of $$$$$$$$ going from both Bandes to Meiah Sheorim, and specifically to LEKK hood. I want an investigation into the LEKKhood administrative office where Kotler works and collects the $$$$$$$$$... I want to know what R' Joel meant when he said... " Ich hub nisht kein Chassidim.."
I want to know if it's true that Hungarian survivors in Israel were in R' Joel's face..
I want to know why the Satmar lekkers are revising history & facts to the extent that it's the biggest ripoff since the Dutch stole Manhattan Island from the Indians for junk & trinkets...
I want some shrink to explain how so many cultists have MLDS ( Meshuga Loso Dovor Syndrome) ... and want him to follow the money trail.. Who paid & pays for huge anti-Israel ads in prominent newspapers... each ad costing $100,000 a pop.. How much did R' Avigdor Miller get paid when he translated the Yiddish-DEEreck into English.... but in his later years never talked about it.....Who pay$$$$$$$ for the hafganots???? Who pays for them, but doesn't give a SHYT'te about the poor impoverished Meiah Sheorim'niks who come to schnorr in shuls 4, now 5 atta time.. How come they're not getting $$$$$$? I want an investigation...

There's a money trail here..... No sane Jew says the things about the future of the State that these thugs do, unle$$$$$$$$$ there's money there.


Derby.... $$$$tart the inve$$$$tigation.

Anonymous said...

..... AND while you're at it.... Who subsidizes Der Goy, Der Glatt-a- Goyteh & Der Tzeitzung Nochosh'l.... It's impossible that these 3 headed monsters can survive just on circulation & ads to their niche badelech week after week, when major newspapers are struggling...Inve$$$$tigate..... Follow the money trail...


Derby

Anonymous said...

Nebech Nebech, derby (the ferd) & this blogger, their tounges are hanging out of their lips, spittle all over their sad mouth's, seeing for a fact, that their theories don't hold water, because ONE of the reasons (the Yetzer Hara has many more) they fell to ZIONISM was that an REAL unchanged EHRLICHE YID, cannot survive and prosper in this modern day and era, but now they see for a FACT that the SITRA ACHRA sold them a bill of goods, so what do such 2 BAALEI TAAVA do?, instead of realizing that they were wrong, TOTALLY WRONG, and MISLED by their own TAAVOS, and their RAA-BONIM, who themselves were mostly Misyavnim, Maskilim, Mischadshim, Reformists, NO NO NO, they can't come to grips just yet, so what's left for them? To ask KASHYOS like the RASHA from the MAHNISHTANA!!!!!, thereby trying to appease their SUBCONSCIOUS uncertainty..... It ain't gonna help you one iota, SHEKER is SHEKER, and that's it, you guys are one piece of SHEKER, through and through, and until you'll realize that, there's NO Hope for you, YES YES, the English print media is floundering, oozing red ink, and the TORA true print media, is in fact flourishing , it's BIG BUSINESS, and while the Goyishe world together with the Zionist world, wouldn't spend a DIME or give a hoot for their Emunos Tefeilos, the AUTHENTIC ORIGINAL EHRLICHE YIDDEN, give ALL they have, for KEVOD SHAMAYIM, and while the Zionists only pay lip service to their Avodah Zara Hatzioni, because their only reason they are Zionists, is looking for the EASIEST path of Judaism, meanwhile the REAL AUTHENTIC UNCHANGING EHRLICHE YIDDEN,give their TIME and EFFORT, because they KNOW and are deeply CONVINCED that they are fighting for the TRUTH, for TORAH MISINAI, for HKBH, I know very well, that it's a BITTER PILL to swallow, seeing that your AVODAH ZARA is decimated right in front of your own eyes, like a BALLOON full of air bursting from just a pinprick, well well, so so sorry, that's the price your paying for being wrong, following the footsteps of your Maskilim leaders.

Dusiznies said...

9:20
Bla Blaaa Blaaa weep blaaa boo hoo "AVODAH ZARA"
blaa blaaa bla "BALOON" blaaa blaa "TIME" blaa blaaa
"EFFORT" bla blaaaa "FERD" blaaqa blaaaa boo hoo bla
What the H are you talking about? You mashiginer!

Anonymous said...

Seems that when we anointed you as "MESHUGA LEOSO DAVAR", we could have saved some ink, and leave out the last two words, And crown you with the well deserved title, plain old "MESHUGA", perfectly fitting, clearly becoming, as usual you follow a standard path, when you are under tremendous pressure, seeing that you were proven wrong, you revert to strategy B, falling back to your 'other' fallacy, in your low IQ mind your only other option, (for to ADMIT that you are WRONG well that's NOT an option), either cursing using gutteral NIVUL PEH (of course you'll blame your adversaries of doing that....), and if those options also don't work, well it still leaves you with 2 more, DELETING DELETING, blaming others for what YOU actually do, for when we assign your RAA-BONIM with their appropriate title, MINIM APIKORSUM MISYAVNIM MISCHADSHIM MASKILIM etc, that's what the GEDOLEI YISROEL from years before crowned them with, whereas the KEDOSHIM UTEHORIM that you degrade were unanimously considered just that by EVERYONE, even by your MISCHADSHIM, but recently you found a NEW PLOY, acting like one of the ARBAA BANIM from the MANISHTANA, either the RASHA, and mow like the TAAM, perhaps in the near future, you'll also try to be the CHACHAM or the SHEINO YODEIA LISHOL...... Actually that's exactly what the HOLY REBBE the DIVREI YOEL explains in his peirush on the HAGGADAH, that the ARBAA BAANIM are all ONE and the SAME persona, changing their tones and songs to their personal needs.....

Anonymous said...

Ha, ha, ha,----
Millions going to Yerushalayim from the Bandes... but NOT into pockets of the really needy.... WHERE, then?? What's BADATZ doing with their multi-billion $$$$$ kashrus empire ??? Why don't they help out their brethren in Meiah Shearim?????

Circulation lies about the Goy, Goyte.... Listen , my name isn't Uncle Sap....
Average large family is B"LY 8-18.... Take 5 families... That's average of 60 people, including toddlers who can't read... This 60 is included in circulation figures, when in really only 5 papers were bought..... Ha, ha, ha, bah, blah, blah, ... Their tiny niche markets are too small to sustain themselves.... You don't need to be a marketing genius to figure it out...
Who subsidizes them, Yerushalyim protests, and Lekkhood???
The story ain't goin' away....

Now instead of rolling here in avoda Zorah , Zionism & kozvos like a pyg in delicious Shytta,
go home carrying your big mesechte with the brown covers, stick your index finger in middle on the daf you're holding, and make a grand entrance to Bnai Bayis... Then be mevarer the halacha that if 30 Zionist ladybugs are found in Machirim flour, they're not "BADLAN" b'shishim... Only b "SHEESHEE"...


Maharat Tammy Kol Toov... Ha ha
Stop staring at my slacks, you eizzel..!!

Anonymous said...

Now listen to MY pshat... The chacham ends his dvar Torah with 'Ein Mafsikin Aachar Hapesach Afikomen" and leaves it that .... Doesn't explain it... The Rasha then asks basically the same question as the chacham but a little rougher... Then the Aggadah says.. "hakei es Shinuv'... MEANING... Soften his teeth... soften his RESPONSE & talk... But how??? Punching him??? No, no, not allowed.... By EXPLAINING to him instead of cursing at him, so that he'll eventually soften his language & become a true bal Tshuva... Not cursing & yemach shmo'ing, mahn.. !! Do you understand??
That's why our chacham is called the" Chacham of the Ma Nishtana..

Because the Aggadah Rasha, no matter what he is, is still sitting at the Seder table together with family... he's not a rasha like YOU think...Not a radical lefty anti- Israel or anti-Semitic type of rasha...

Rabbanit Kol Toov.... Soon to be your Rebbetzin...

Anonymous said...

Zionisim and Zima go together like fingers in well fitting gloves, derby (the ferd) & company (which actually encompasses the total figure 2, the blogger), can't put Zima out of their TAAMENE minds, as that's all they think about, care about, busy with Zima 24/7, understandably so, being that Zima was ATZAS BILAAM, the ZIONIST charter is based upon Zima, witness the GAY PRIDE marches in YERUSHALMI IIR HAKODESH (all over Eretz Yisroel) protected and authorized by the TAAMENE MEDINA'S chukos toeivos, and that's the reason they (derby & co.) believe and think that everyone is like them, VAYELCHU ACHAR HAHEVEL, VAYEHEVALU, no no no, only ZIONIST's think that way, talk that way, do all these toeivos.....


.

Anonymous said...

Let it be said and known to all:

Nobody knew what ZIMA was till you, ben Ferdellina, posted the item about the Munchatcher rebbetzin's pants... Nobody knew this factoid, nobody even cared... I'm not even going to write what lies you scrawled about another prominent rebbe's supposed sex life ... Only YOU the ZIMA Maven , knows or cares about it...

Enjoying your stay here, in the kozvos, avodah zorah pyg ShTY-pen.. ??? Ha , ha...

L'chol Hapoochis auf Tzi'loochis..

Dusiznies said...

10:30
You scribble:
".. Actually that's exactly what the HOLY REBBE the DIVREI YOEL explains in his peirush on the HAGGADAH, that the ARBAA BAANIM are all ONE and the SAME persona, changing their tones and songs to their personal needs....."

The Rebbe was actually right about that one...
one just has to analyze the Rebbe himself and you would actually see that he was actually talking about himself!
it's actually a good vort! Shkoyich!

Anonymous said...

'Nobody', except you, 'Zima' which is synonymous with 'Zionism', is all you talk about, think about, plan about, and at the same time blame everyone else on your own faults and fallacies. Come to think, its no wonder that the Good Old USA, All the European countries etc, are constantly pushing the Taamene Medina to relinquish land, as the Pasuk says, VELO THAKI HAARETZ ETHCHEM KAASHER KAA ESS HAGOY, this is the haachana for our ultimate redemption through HKBH, the ABOLISHMENT of this ABOMINALE CURSE, ZIONISM.

Dusiznies said...

12:32
Bla bla boo hoo :( bla "ESS HAGOY" bla blaaaaa weep weeeeeep boooooo hooo
:( "ABOMINALE" bla blaaaaa
ploider zack .... bla bla
Yoi! boooo hoo "ZIONISM" bla blaa

Anonymous said...

'Zionism', is all you talk about, think about, plan about, ...


Nice projection..!!!
No, it's you who is obsessed... We , live, build, bloom, go on with our lives... but you obsessed lunatic can't... Too bad.

Tammy

Anonymous said...

Evil Cheerios

Anonymous said...

Now for a change you mentioned a half truth, (while most of your posts and comments are whole lies), because ZIONISM is the worst plague that ever hit Judaism, we do try our best to let people know the CHURBAN it brought upon Klal Yisroel, and to stay away from the Zionist dogma, which encompasses HEIRUS UBITUL HADAS in general, and the 3 major Aveiros in particular, so yes ZIONISM is a SEKANA for AAM YISROEL, therefore as a responsible Shomer Tora Umitzvos, we do our share, by every TORAH'DIG way and means.

Anonymous said...

What's important to know, Seymour, is if you actually keep a straight face when you doodle, smear & sketch your Picassos ???
You're not by any chance putting us on, are you?

And what's this ???

"--HEIRUS UBITUL HADAS ...a SEKANA for AAM YISROEL, therefor--"

Graffiti ??

You don't , Heaven forbid, drink some paint turpentine as you create unique masterpieces ,doooo you??


Derby...
Stand back a little folks, it's the best way to appreciate Deranged Cubism...

Anonymous said...

Aal taan kesyl Keuvalto, Apikorus kol shekein Depukar Tefei.