Belzer Rebbe's Shalosh Seudois Toireleh "We don't need the State"

The Belzer Rebbe's brother-in-law, Reb Aron Teitelbaum the Monroe Satmar Rebbi, visited Israel two weeks ago and must have slipped a "date drug" in his drink.
The Belzer was always pro-State as was his predecessor, so it's strange that he should become a rabid hater of the State!

Last week he went berserk in between bites of pickled herring at Shaloish Seudois and ranted and raved against the State:

“Even among the five million Jews in Israel there is a minority of 500,000 true Torah-keepers who keep and protect the mitzvas (divine commandments). They are the essence of Israel. G-d chose the Jewish people because you are the smallest of all nations. So the observant minority of those learning Torah are G-d’s army.

“We don’t need the state or the government. We need study halls and yeshivas to continue serving G-d and to educate the children in the way of service of G-d and in the responsibility of a life of Torah and acceptance of the mitzvas and in anxiously awaiting the redemption by moshiach [the messiah]!

“May it be His will that in the merit of Rabbi Elimelech of Lizhensk, whose yahrzeit [anniversary of the death] is today, that the Jewish people and Torah study should be protected from all enemies that persecute Jews and the Torah. They [these enemies] should not succeed in their efforts to disrupt Torah study and observance of Torah until Moshiach comes, and may we merit the arrival of Moshiach speedily in our days!” 

Rabbi! 
What about water, you need water? Planning to get it from R' Nuchemka from Meah Shearim?

How about electricity? Who is going to provide power for your summer home in Telz-Stone? R' Shayehele from Afulah?

What about your garbage from Shalosh Seudois, whose going to take that away?

How about your Medical care? Whose going to take care of you? It's not like you are paying into the system...
Stop listening to your crazed brother-in-law who lives in luxury in America!

We know YOU don't need the State, you are one of the richest people in the State of Israel....(Belzer Rebbe is worth over 50 Million Dollars.. see Dusiznies)
but how about the shemegegies that follow you around who have no food on the table... what about them?
I think they still need the Government!

Neshama Carlebach's Shabbos Parshas Zachor with Black Baptists singing Esa Einai!

They couldn't find some nice Jewish boys to G-D forbid come to shul for the Carlbach Minyan in the Reform Shul in NYC, so Neshama, the late Rabbi Shlomo Carlebach's daughter, scrambled all over the USA to find a bunch of Black Singers to come to daven with her .... this is her "Aliyah" to Judaism. 
Reb Shlomo, where are you?

Chasam Sofer wrote that it's more important to work in Israel then to learn Torah!

What? Is that true? Is DIN making all this up? Oy vey, what will all the charlatan Roshei Yeshivah in Israel say to this Chasam Sofer?
 That he is a heritic? 
Don't believe one word I say, read the Chasam Sofer for yourself!

and now a comment from Rationalist Judaism
Rabbi Tzvi Liker sent me one of the most extraordinary Torah perspectives I have seen in a long time. It's all the more amazing because of who it comes from. Rav Moshe Sofer, a.k.a. Chasam Sofer (1762–1839), is widely considered to be the "father of Orthodoxy." He was the Rosh Yeshiva of Pressburg and a staunch opponent of any reformations of Judaism, leading to his famous saying, "That which is new, is forbidden by the Torah." 

The discussion relates to the well-known dispute in the Gemara between Rabbi Yishmael and Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai about learning Torah versus working. Rabbi Yishmael teaches that the study of Torah is to be accompanied by earning a livelihood, as per the verse that we recite in Shema, "Ve'asafta deganecha - And you shall gather your grain." Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai, on the other hand, says that one should devote oneself to Torah, and God will ensure that one's needs are provided for. Abaye observes that many followed the lead of Rabbi Yishmael and succeeded in both working and learning, while most of those who followed Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai did not succeed in either.

Enter Chasam Sofer. He cites a view that one should ideally follow Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai and dedicate oneself solely to Torah, arguing that when Abaye observes that many people didn't do well in that path, this is because they didn't really devote themselves to it properly, but a special person who is truly dedicated to Torah will manage to succeed. Chasam Sofer himself says that "we" (it's not clear who he's referring to) follow Rabbi Nehorai, who argues with Rabbi Meir's instruction that one should teach his child a trade, and says that he will only teach his son Torah.

So far, this sounds very much in accord with someone representing the right wing of Orthodox Judaism. But now comes the "but." And it's the "but" to end all "buts"!

But, says Chasam Sofer, but, this is only true in the Diaspora. In the Diaspora, there is no reason to work at a trade except to earn a living; furthermore, enhancing the economy of one's host country accentuates the fact that the Jews are in exile. Accordingly, if one can truly dedicate oneself to Torah and succeed that way, there is no reason to work, and this is what Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai was referring to (and Chasam Sofer argues that even Rabbi Yishmael would agree).

In Israel, on the other hand, it's entirely different. Here, Chasam Sofer says, one does not only work the fields in order to make a living. There is also the mitzvah of yishuv ha'aretz, settling the land. In the same way as one stops learning Torah to put on tefillin, says Chasam Sofer, one stops learning Torah to farm the land, which is the mitzvah of yishuv ha'aretz. Chasam Sofer explains that yishuv ha'aretz does not just mean living in Israel; it means developing the country. He further says that not just farming, but all industries and professions, are part of settling the land and giving it honor. Chasam Sofer adds that it would be a deficiency in the honor of Israel if a certain profession does not exist there, requiring products to be imported from abroad.

This is staggering! According to Chasam Sofer, there is a mitzvah for people in Israel to leave yeshivah and learn a profession quite separate from the requirement to provide for one's family. It's important for Israel to have doctors and engineers and all the professionals that a country requires in order to have honor (and to counter the brain-drain that currently exists). Likewise, people who make aliyah to Israel and bring their professional skills are fulfilling the mitzvah of yishuv ha'aretz in a much more significant way than merely by living here.

Chasam Sofer states this idea in two places. Don't take my word for it - above is a scan of both passages. Read and be amazed! And share it with those who believe that anyone encouraging people in Israel to leave yeshivah and enhance the workforce can only be a Torah-hating Amalekite!

DIN:
I also refer you to the introduction to the Chasam Sofer on Chumash.

There he decries the practice of not teaching your son a trade and having him learn full time.

This, he says, will result in boys marrying only for money and creating issues in Jewish homes and marriages.

I guess that today he would be called a sonei dos.

Hillel Harvard, fund students to visit Israel and to visit Arafat's Grave!

Harvard University students take trip to Ramallah, post picture on social media next to Yasser Arafat's grave • Trip funded by Jewish donors, supported by Harvard Hillel.

We have gotten used to seeing pictures of American students almost everywhere in Israel -- at the Western Wall, the beach, the airport. But a recent photograph taken in a much less conventional spot has sparked a controversy within the U.S. Jewish community.

Students from Harvard University who are on a sponsored tour to Israel posted a group photo last week next to former Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's grave in Ramallah. Some 50 students from all over the world attended the Harvard College Israel Trek 2014, which took them all over the country and included meetings with Israeli officials, and Israel Defense Force officers.

But the students also took a trip to Ramallah and met Palestinian Authority leaders. During the visit, the students visited Arafat's grave -- something not originally planned in the itinerary. Pictures, naturally posted online, caused quite a stir on social media.

A student named Daniel Mael was the first to report the event, on the conservative website TruthRevolt.org.

"I was horrified to see that Harvard Hillel is a supporter, and Boston's Combined Jewish Philanthropies is a sponsor of a trip that includes a visit to the grave of one of the world's most notorious Jew-murdering terrorists," Mael told the The Jewish Press weekly newspaper.

As the Israel Trek's website put it, "Israel Trek is made possible by the generous contributions of a number of family foundations and Boston's Combined Jewish Philanthropies. The Trek is supported by Harvard Hillel."

The issue has sparked criticism and outrage in the American Jewish community, especially among donors who discovered they funded not only a trip to Israel but a trip to the Palestinian Authority, in what looks like students paying their final respects to Arafat -- who was responsible for killing thousands of Israelis. Despite the firestorm, the Hillel International organization said on Saturday that it supported the trip.

Chief administration officer at Hillel International, David Eden, said in a statement that "a photograph of Harvard Israel Trek participants at the tomb of Yasser Arafat in Ramallah is causing understandable concern. That image is not what this trip is about. ...

The Israel Trek is being led by Harvard Israeli students, distinguished IDF veterans among them. ..."

"The itinerary of the Trek, approved by the sponsors, includes a very impressive roster of meetings and outings with representatives of the very highest echelons of Israeli government, armed forces, business, and culture," Eden continued. "The trip also includes a visit to Ramallah to meet with Palestinian leadership."

He said the "participants may have given insufficient thought to the way in which this particular photograph would be seen and received back home."

Yonason Rosenbloom of Yated compares Lapid to Arafat!

This Jonathan Rosenblum who once identified himself as a Conservative Jew and who became Hareidi has now become the spokesman of the Yated and other Hareidie newspapers! He learned a little Chumash in Ohr Samaiach, and writes English with proper grammar so they made him their star to bash people that insist Chareidim share the burden! 

He is apparently bereft of any shame or decency!
Comparing Yair Lapid to the child murderer Yaser Arafat, in the latest edition of the Phony Lipshitz' newspaper, The Yated!

.."He might be compared to Yasir Arafat, who told President Clinton at Camp David that signing a peace agreement would effectively seal his death warrant. That plea attested to Arafat's failure to educate his Palestinian supporters to the necessity of major concessions if they hoped to gain a state, including renunciation of the so-called "right of return." Instead he spent his time post-Oslo whipping the Palestinian population into a frenzy of hate -- much as Lapid has whipped up hatred of the chareidi population -- and was thus in no position to respond to Ehud Barak's dangerously generous offer of Palestinian statehood...." 

Whats with these guys who become frum and then insane!
This "Am Haaretz"  in March 1992,  wrote an article in the Jewish Observer criticizing Rabbi Norman Lamm's book, Torah Umadda for equating the value and importance of secular and Torah studies. 

Haredi Soldiers take down Terrorist that planned attacks on Israeli Civilians! Be Sure that no Chareidi Rabbi will praise them!

File Photo of Hareidi Soldiers

We all praise Hatzalah, as we should, for saving lives, we don't say, "Sit and Learn" and let the Chilonim take care of it.

Why is this different?

But the Zionist Leader Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu understands what Pikuach Nefesh is all about!

Before the start of his weekly cabinet meetings on Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu offered praise for the IDF units, namely the Nahal Haredi, who were instrumental in taking down a known terrorist suspected of planning attacks on Israeli civilians.

Netanyahu said, “Over the weekend our forces struck at a terrorist who had organized attacks on Israelis and was also planning attacks on Israeli citizens.”

Continuing, Netanyahu said, “I would like to commend the anti-terrorism unit, the IDF units involved, including the ultra-Orthodox brigade, and the ISA for carrying out a very important operation in eliminating someone who endangered Israeli citizens.

Peretz Sontag's Body Found in Harriman

We regret to inform our readers of the passing of Peretz Sontag ע״ה

The body of Peretz Sontag, the father of seven from Pomona who had been missing since March 14, was found Sunday afternoon in Harriman State Park, officials said. Sontag was located with his black 2012 black Kia Optima off a roadway in the park, Ramapo police Detective Lt. Mark Emma said. He was found by a hiker not related to the search. His department notified Sontag's wife, Tammy, of the discovery, and state parks police are handling the investigation, Emma said. "What can I tell you? It's just a tragedy," Sontag's uncle, Shimon, said shortly after receiving the news. "They're all distraught. It's a mess. You've got seven children. The whole family is heartbroken." Sontag said state park police found his nephew and were not treating the death as a homicide. A funeral will likely take place tomorrow and Peretz Sontag will be buried in Israel.

8 year old boy dumped in basement for 24 hours without food or water because he spoke during megilla reading

This happened over a decade ago but still fresh in the mind of the now grown up Amrom Kruman. His father, Avraham Shlomo Kruman, a Neturei Karta guy, and his mother a Satmar lady locked up their 8 year old Amram in a basement because he dared speak during the reading of the Megillah on Purim!
They didn't even come down once to see if he is still alive.

G-D is not mentioned in the entire movie of Noah! But Global Warming is!

Darren Aronofsky wrestles one of scripture's most primal stories to the ground and extracts something vital and audacious, while also pushing some aggressive environmentalism, in Noah. 

Whereas for a century most Hollywood filmmakers have tread carefully and respectfully when tackling biblical topics in big-budget epics aimed at a mass audience, Aronofsky has been daring, digging deep to develop a bold interpretation of a tale which, in the original, offers a lot of room for speculation and invention. 

The narrative of the global flood that wiped out almost all earthly life is the original disaster story, one that's embraced by most of the major world religions, which means that conservative and literal-minded elements of all faiths who make it their business to be offended by untraditional renditions of holy texts will find plenty to fulminate about here. 

Already banned in some Middle Eastern countries, Noah will rile some for the complete omission of the name “God” from the dialogue, others for its numerous dramatic fabrications and still more for its heavy-handed ecological doomsday messages, which unmistakably mark it as a product of its time.

Pinny Lipshitz editor of Yated a Liar!

Pinny the liar Lipshitz

From the Emes Ve-Emunah Blog

Yated editor Rabbi Pinchos Lipshitz is an anti Semite. I’m sure that sentence will raise some eyebrows. That’s because he really isn’t an anti Semite. But if I were to follow his lead (and those of like minded individuals in his community) this would be an article of faith. His abhorrent attitude about clearly observant Jews whose only goal is to serve Klal Yisroel is spread all over his latest editorial. And it is filled with hate.

What he and others have said or implied is that the things said by non Charedim about Charedim should be considered anti-Semitic. Just substitute the word Jew for the word Charedi in many of those columns and the world would be screaming anti Semite at whoever uttered them.

His editorial is filled with the usual crop of hyperbole, lies, and innuendos. Here is one of the more egregious lies: 

People can disagree, but to call 50,000 frum, peaceful people murderers because they gathered to daven is abhorrent... 

This falsehood has been repeated numerous times by various Charedi media. It is based on Yori Yanover’s ‘cry from the heart’ about Charedim avoiding being subjected to a military draft which can entail dying for one’s country - while everyone else is subjected to that possibility. To say that this is calling them murderers is not only a flagrant distortion of the truth, it is designed to whip up the anger and animosity of his crowd. And just like any big lie, the more it is repeated, the more it is believed. That is what makes this type of yellow journalism so disgusting. They are losing the battle for the hearts and minds of masses of observant Jews so they resort to hyperbole, exaggeration, distortion, and outright lies.

The rest of his article is filled with derision, invective, and ridicule about religious Jews. He doesn’t even acknowledge that someone like Rabbi Dov Lipman is observant, calling him a Kipa wearing Jew as though it was some sort of disguise and not an indication of his being observant!

Here is a particularly disturbing comment: 

Those who stoke fires, create diversions, and fuel division in the pursuit of any goal expose themselves as guilty of hypocrisy and a refusal to examine the real facts the way they are. Throughout the ages, we have been victimized by blood libels. It is shameful that religious people are now utilizing the methods of Eisov and tactics of Haman to further their agendas. 

I agree with the first sentence:  Those who stoke fires, create diversions, and fuel division in the pursuit of any goal expose themselves as guilty of hypocrisy and a refusal to examine the real facts the way they are.

But it is the pot calling the kettle black. It is Rabbi Lipshutz and his fellow travelers that stoke those fires, create diversions, and fuel division. And he has the nerve to say that religious Jews are using the methods of Eisav and the tactics of Haman? We are not the ones lying about things. He is! 

Here is yet another lie: 

The people who give those speeches, write those articles, and post and publish them are using their words to further their battle against the much despised lomdei Torah. 

Does he really believe that people like me despise Lomdei Torah? And that our mission is to battle them? Whether he believes it or not, it is a lie. And frankly I think it is a deliberate lie. Any sane person who reads any of my posts on this subject knows that it’s a lie!

Here is a ridiculous question he asks: 

Might it be that the secular camp and their Orthodox enablers are the inciters? Might it be that those who so vehemently decry the chareidi leadership are guilty of far worse? 

Vehemently decry? Who among us has said anything vehement about Charedi leadership? I certainly haven’t. That I and others like me strongly disagree with some of what they say is not done with any kind of vehemence. Certainly not anywhere near the vehemence expressed by Rabbi Lipshutz in this editorial. Is Rabbi Lipshutz ready to call Rabbi Berel Wein a Kippa wearing Jew? …an Orthodox enabler of secular Torah haters?

Rabbi Lipshutz also takes umbrage at another comment made by Yori Yanover: 

The post-Holocaust Haredi world is all about fear. Fear of new things. Fear of books. Fear of voices. And above all, fear that the education a young man receives during his 20 years in a Haredi yeshiva is worthless, because as soon as he encounters the outside world, those 20 years would vanish, melt away like cholov Yisroel butter on a skillet.” 

While I agree that this was worded indelicately, how false is it, really? This too probably stoked the fires of hatred… which is Rabbi Lipshutz goal in repeating it. He wants those fires to be stoked – against detractors!

But is it not fair to say that there is a fear of books that do not exactly parrot the Charedi version of history; books that turn human beings into heavenly angels; free of sin; born that way from the womb, and staying that way till the tomb?

Is it not true that they reject for their students in Israel any secular education – if not out of fear, then out of the belief that it is Bitul Torah – wasteful of the time one should instead be studying Torah? Is it not true they fear the kind of challenges one might face on the outside world (e.g. the internet)? ...that it would shake their beliefs and that 20 years (of the Charedi version of Jewish education) might vanish, melt away?

Rabbi Lipshutz says nothing to dispel these notions. He just says: ‘There you have it’. As if to imply that these challenges are so absurd they do not justify a response. 

Really, Rabbi Lipshutz? I think they do. Because without any explanation, these values are exactly what Charedim constantly espouse. How many times have I heard the argument that history is only as important as the inspiration it can provide. So that any bio that does not make its subject larger than life and ignores truths about a Gadol that makes them uncomfortable, is worthless… and perhaps even detrimental. They do in fact fear facing the truths of history.

Rabbi Lipshutz uses this paragraph to ‘prove’ that a war is being waged against Charedim. And fuels the outrage with the claim that food is being taken out of the mouths of Charedi babies because entitlements have been cut.

That is total distortion of the facts. Why every single able bodied Charedi who chooses not to work should be entitled to welfare that is basically designed to help those who cannot help themselves - is beyond me. This is not taking food out of the mouths of babies. 

As I’ve said a million times, we do need to support the elite Torah students among us. They should be given a fully divinity exemption and be paid a living wage. But to do that for every single able bodied Charedi just because he wants to - is unfair and wrong. And reducing (not eliminating) welfare to them is not taking food out of the mouths of babies.

I doubt that Rabbi Lipshutz will respond to anything I wrote here. Probably because he can’t. But even if he does ‘respond’ it will not be with any rational arguments or proofs. It will be with more lies; more innuendos; and more distortions. He will not prove his position at all, just as he did not do so now. He will instead attack, attack, attack and continue to promote the ‘big lie’ until he’s satisfied that everyone believes it.