Monday, September 2, 2019

Harav Hatzaddik Avraham Yitzchok Hakohein Kook z"l by DIN

I will repost an article I posted August 24, 2014 about the great Tazaddik Hador, R' Avraham Yitzchok Kook z"l
on the Yurzeit Gimmel Elul!

I would like to preface the post with the following observation:

How is it that the Chassidishe & Litvishe World took a Tzaddik, a Gaon Oilim, a deep Torah thinker and made him into a villian...... a "sheigatz.?"

How did editors and publishers take out his haskamois from their republished Seforim???

There is a joke amongst the frum heimishe world but so true!

"What is the difference between a Lubavitcher Chasid and a Satmarer Chasid?"

The difference is:

By a Lubavitcher... every "sheigatz" is a Yid...
By a Satmarer .... every Yid is a "sheigatz"

How True ...but now its the Litvisher World as well....

I want to ask my readers that attended Yeshivois and learned Shas and Poiskim a question.

Think about this?

If a Bochur, lets call him "Reuvein"  in a Bais Medrish  asks or questions a halacha in the Rambam .... and no one can answer his question ...and it now seems that the specific Halacha in the Rambam is totally obliterated by Reuvein.....

What do you think will the Rosh Yeshivah say? What will his Chavrusah say? What will his parents say?

They will say :
"Wow! What a great question? What an Illuei? What a Genius?" "Yeh ....Let's get him a great girl that will support him the rest of his life!"

Will they call him an apikoras and a heretic?

Would they call Rebbe Akiva Eiger who wrote the "Gilyan Ha'Shas" and who asked and sometimes never answered the questions that he asked on Toisfois, an apikoras? 

Was he indeed an apikoras?

Let's go back in time...
How about Toisfois questions on Rashi where Toisfois will then come up with a total different understanding of a talmudic discussion.... and say that Rashi wasn't correct ...

Were the Baalei Toisfois apikorsim?

How about the Ramban who specifically wrote his sefer on Chumash to argue with Rashi's understanding of the parsha ... and then gives a totally different novel idea on the script of the Torah ...
Was the Ramban an apikoras??

The Orach Chayim Hakodash frequently eviscerates a Rishon's understanding of a pasuk and then totally twists the pasuk to fit his own understanding ....
was the Orach Chayim Hakodosh an apikoras?

I could go on and on .... you get my drift....

Then why is someone who argues with the Satmar Shitah or proves the VaYoel Moshe wrong an apikoras????

Since Matan Torah when there was any difference of opinion amongst the Rabbis ... did anyone ever call the opposing view an "apikores!"

But here they took a Gaon Oilim, cursed him and made him into a pariah .....a sheigatz and an apikoras, all because his derech wasn't like theirs ....

This was the basic reason of the destruction of second Bais Ha'Mikdash ...... the gemarrah states that the masses were basically frum, talmeidei chachamim, but they hated each other .... they hated the guy that dressed differently, that wore a Kippah Serugah, that were a blue string in the tzizis, that dared wear a colored shirt ...
that's why Hashem had the Bais Hamikdash burned down and had us dispersed amongst the nations to learn that in Chutz Le'aaretz the goyim will consider the guy wearing "vaaseh zokin" or gold stripe "bekeshe" the same Jew as the Jew that shaves and wears a polo shirt .... to the goyim we are all Jews! 

Now see my post
Press "read more" below

In the last 50 years, the Roshei Yeshivos have been re-writing the biography of the great Gaon and Tzaddik Harav Avraham Yitchok Kook, Z'L to make him into a Rasha, and some have even added the words used for the Nazis, Yemach Shmo!

So I will briefly try to set the record straight, I know that this post is not doing the Rav any justice, but maybe it will slowly sink into the brains of the Yeshivishe and Chassiddishe fanatics that there was and is another side that is equally supported by Gedoilei Hador.

Just a note: 

Harav Kook was the Mesader Kiddushin for Harav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Harav Elyashiv:

Since I posted all this I have received hundreds of emails(, some from my own dear friends who know me very well, saying in effect that 
Reb Isser Zalman Meltzer, R' Mordechai Epstein and Chofetz Chayim, 
really didn't mean what they wrote in the letters I posted below.

To that I say, 

that you are treading on dangerous waters, because if they are in fact lying and and not writing what they actually meant, 
then you can never believe anything these Gedoilim wrote, 
which includes the Sefer Chofetz Chayim, the Mishna Berura etc etc, because we can never be sure that they really wrote what they actually believed!

Rav Isser Zalman Meltzer and Rav Moshe Mordechai Epstein writing in support and defense of Rav Kook
In 1933, religious extremists attacked the Rav for being too amicable towards the Zionists. Among those who defended the Rav's honor were two of Israel's foremost Gedolie Hador .... R' Moshe Mordechai Epstein, head of the Chevron Yeshiva, and R' Isser Zaman Meltzer.. see above letter 

Badatz Eidah Chareidis writing In support and defense of Rav Kook
Kol Korah in Support of Harav Kook, signed by all Roshei Yeshivos of Yerushalyim
Letter from Chafetz Chayim's, son-in-law, stating that the Chofetz Chayim is very upset with those messing with Harav Kook. See in above letter that those embarrassing Rav Kook have no part in Olam Habah.

Harav Kook Z"L, the first Chief Rabbi of Eretz Yisroel, ranks among Jewry's greatest Talmeide Chachomim and thinkers in recent generations. He was a multi-faceted personality, who had a complete grasp on all of the various disciplines within Jewish learning. 

On the one hand, he was at home in the domain of chassidic thought, Kabbalah and Aggadah. On the other hand, he was a formidable scholar in the realm of analytic Talmud study, Halacha and Jewish philosophy. With his wide-ranging perception, Rav Kook embraced seemingly contradictory viewpoints and principles , reconciling and blending them all into one comprehensive, harmonious whole. 

The all-inclusive concept that guided every aspect of Rav Kook's life was clearly his firm recognition that the Jewish people were at the threshold of fateful historical events which would unfold in stages.

In the first stage, 

the material side - a preoccupation with physical needs - would prevail. The Jewish people would seek physical tranquility and abandon lofty, spiritual needs.

Afterwards, in the second stage,

a storm would come and generate a revolution, igniting the inner spark hidden within every Jew.
Then, Israel's true strength - which is based on pure faith, spiritual elevation, and sanctification of the mundane, would be revealed.

After all, Chazal taught in reference to the re-building of the Bais Hamikdash in Me'ilah 14a, 

"The [repairman] build with mundane [materials], and they sanctify it afterwards"
The same is true regarding the building of our Holy Land, asserted the Rav. 
It is now being accomplished in a secular manner, but it will be sanctified in the end.

Rav Kook was born in Grīva in the Courland Governorate of the Russian Empire in 1865

As a child he gained a reputation of being an ilui . He entered the Volozhin Yeshiva in 1884 at the age of 18, where he became close to the Rosh yeshiva, Rabbi Naftali Zvi Yehuda Berlin the Netziv. Although he stayed at the yeshiva for only a year and a half, the Netziv has been quoted as saying that if the Volozhin yeshiva had been founded just to educate Rav Kook, it would have been worthwhile.

During his time in the yeshiva, he studied by Rabbi Eliyahu David Rabinowitz-Teomim, (also known as the Aderet), the rabbi of Ponevezh, who subsequently became his father-in-Law.

In 1887, at the age of 23, Kook entered his first rabbinical position as rabbi of Zaumel, Lithuania. 

 In 1904, Rav Kook moved to Ottoman Palestine to assume the rabbinical post in Jaffa, which also included responsibility for the new mostly secular Zionist agricultural settlements nearby. During these years he wrote a number of works, most published posthumously. He subsequently became Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem.
 Rav Kook was critical of the secularists on certain occasions when they violated Halacha (Jewish law), 
For example, by not observing the Sabbath or kosher laws, or ascending Har HaBayit (the temple mount). 
Rav Kook wrote rulings presenting his strong opposition to people ascending the Temple Mount, due to the Jewish Laws of impurity. He felt that Jews should wait until the coming of the Messiah, when it will be encouraged to enter the Temple Mount. 
However, he was very careful to express the fact that the Kotel and the Har Habayis were holy sites which belong to the Jews. 
Rav Kook also opposed the secular spirit of the Hatikvah anthem, and penned another anthem with a more religious theme entitled haEmunah.
 Rav Kook was apolitical. Rav Kook wrote that he was not part of any party – he simply viewed himself as follower of 
G-d and the laws of the Torah. His relationship with many different types of leaders and laymen, was a part of his general worldview – that all Jews must work together in serving G-d and bringing the redemption. 

Also, one could see from the published letters, that the "Chareidi" leadership was firm in its support of Rav Kook, and in fact had an apparent fond relationship with him. 

The vast majority of the "Chareidi" leaders publicized handwritten letters in support of Rav Kook, when a few individuals were publicly disrespectful towards him. Rav Kook embraced the support, but made clear that any insults were accepted by him without anger, for he viewed himself "as a servant of G-d," without interest in his personal honor.
Some examples of greetings in letters written by Jewish leaders to Rav Kook:
Rav Chaim Ozer Grodzinski : "Our friend, the gaon, our master and teacher, Rabbi Avraham Yitzchak Kook, shlita" and "The Glory of Honor, My Dear Friend, Ha-Rav Ha-Gaon, Ha-Gadol, the Famous One... The Prince of Torah, Our Teacher, Ha-Rav Avraham Yitzchak Ha-Cohain Kook Shlit”a..."
Rav Boruch Ber Leibowitz: "The true gaon, the beauty and glory of the generation, the tzaddik, his holiness, Rabbi Avraham Yitzchak, may his light shine, may he live for length of good days and years amen, the righteous cohen, head of the beis din [court] in Jerusalem, the holy city, may it soon be built and established"
Rav Yosef Yitzchok Schneersohn of Lubavitch: "The Gaon who is renowned with splendor among the Geonim of Ya’akov, Amud HaYemini, Patish HaChazak..."
Rav Chatzkel Abramsky: "The honored man, beloved of Hashem and his nation, the rabbi, the gaon, great and well-known, with breadth of knowledge, the glory of the generation, etc., etc., our master Rabbi Avraham Yitzchak Hacohen Kook, shlita, Chief Rabbi of the Land of Israel and the head of the Beis Din in the holy city of Jerusalem"
Rav Yitzchok Hutner: "The glorious honor of our master, our teacher and rabbi, the great gaon, the crown and sanctity of Israel, Maran [our master] Rabbi Avraham Yitzchak Hacohen Kook, shlita!"

Rav Isser Zalman Meltzer and Rav Moshe Mordechai Epstein: "Our honored friend, the great gaon and glory of the generation, our master and teacher, Avraham Yitzchak Hacohen, shlita"

1. The Praises of the Netziv

The Netziv – Rosh Yeshiva of the Volozhin Yeshiva - said about Maran Ha-Rav Kook: "He is equal to everyone else [in the Volozhin Yeshiva]", "There was never a student like this in Volozhin" and "If the Volozhin Yeshiva was established only for this great student – it would have been enough." 

Ha-Rav Reuven Bengis – Av Beit Din of the Edah Charedit – similarly said that the most important [student] in the Yeshiva is the son-in-law of the Rav of Ponevezh (Ha-Rav Eliyahu David Rabinowitz-Te'omim, Ha-Aderet – Maran Ha-Rav Kook's father-in-law).
[Tal Ha-Re'eiyah pp. 59-60, Shivchei Ha-Re'eiyah p. 45 and Be-Derech Ha-Torah Ha-Goelet p. 189]

2. The Chafetz Chaim: Know that he is holy and pure and anyone who impinges on his honor will not go unpunished.

The Chafetz Chaim once came to Ponovezh in his effort to organize Torah scholars who were Cohanim to learn matters relating to "Kodashim" (the sacrifices in the Temple), since the Temple would soon be built and therefore there would be a need to know the practical Halachah. He turned to Maran Ha-Rav, who was a Cohain (and who was stayed in his father-in-law's house), and asked him to focus on the laws relating to the Temple and sacrifices. A few days later, Maran Ha-Rav visited the Chafetz Chaim in the place where he was staying. The Chafetz Chaim said to him: "I have a request of you, but promise me from the outset that you will fulfill it." Maran Ha-Rav responded: "Since I trust that his honor will not request anything which is inappropriate from me, I promise to fulfill your request." "This is my request" – said the Chafetz Chaim – "When a Rabbinic offer comes before you do not refuse to accept it." Maran Ha-Rav, who had decided not to involve himself with the Rabbinate, found himself in a difficult position, and wanted to free himself and said: "In order to accept a Rabbinic position I would have to involve myself with the halachic authorities who discuss the issues involved, and I already promised his honor to involve myself with 'Kodashim.'" Chafetz Chaim thought hard and said: "I give up on your first promise, your Rabbinate is more important"…

[Bisdeh Ha-Re'eiyah p. 218, Sichot Ha-Re'eiyah p. 122, Tal Ha-Re'eiyah p. 90, Moadei Ha-Re'eiyah p. 231 and 550, Bein Shenei Cohanim Gedolim pp. 32-33 and mentioned in Bishelosha Be-Elul vol. 1 p. 35]

After Maran Ha-Rav Kook had served a while in the Rabbinate in one of the holy communities in the Exile, he received an invitation from the Chafetz Chaim to help him prepare a work on the service of the Cohanim when the Temple is standing. Maran Ha-Rav replied: If his honor permits me to remove the yoke of the Rabbinate which is upon me, I can fulfill the request which is extremely dear to me. The Chafetz Chaim answered: I have not found an individual as talented as you in administering a Rabbinate in Israel!...
[Ha-Re'eiyah Kook ztzvk"l of Ha-Rav Shmuel Baruch Shulman p. 36]

At a huge Rabbinical Conference in Vienna in 5683, one of the Rabbis made disparaging remarks about Maran Ha-Rav, the Chafetz Chaim (who was sitting at the dais) stood up shocked and said: "You insulted the Mara De-Atra (Rabbinic authority) of Eretz Yisrael." He left the conference and decided not to return to it. The Chafetz Chaim waited in his hotel to return to his city, and many people came to visit him or receive a blessing. When the members of delegation from Eretz Yisrael wanted to enter, he said: "I will not say 'Shalom' to those who caused dispute with the Rav of Yerushalayim (Maran Ha-Rav)!" And he added: "Know that he is holy and pure and anyone who impinges on his honor will not go unpunished."

[Bisdeh Ha-Re'eiyah p. 225-228, Sichot Ha-Re'eiyah p. 26-127, Malachim Bivnei Adam p. 211 and for additional information on the subject see Sichot Ha-Re'eiyah chap. 11 and Bein Shenei Cohanim Gedolim chap. 4]

In the year 5681, our Rabbi, Ha-Rav Tzvi Yehudah Ha-Cohain Kook (Maran Ha-Rav's son) traveled to Poland to meet with Rabbis and Chasidic Rebbes to convince them to join the "Degel Yerushalayim" movement which Maran Ha-Rav established to infuse the Zionist movement with Torah and holiness. At that time, the Chafetz Chaim came to Warsaw, and our Rabbi, who yearned to see the splendor of the most righteous person of the generation, went to where he was staying. He found him surrounded by people. After over an hour, our Rabbi approached to take leave from him. The Chafetz Chaim asked: "Are you a local?" Our Rabbi responded: "No, from Jerusalem," and he added: "Your honor was close with Reb Eliyahu David (the Aderet), father-in-law of my father." When the Chafetz Chaim heard whose son was standing before him, his face lit up and he joyfully said: "Your honor is the son of the Rav of Zimel, the Rav of Boisk, the Rav of Yafo, the Rav of Jerusalem? Then why does he speak about his grandfather? Tell me about your father! How is he? We are long-time, dear friends."

[Bisdei Ha-Re'eiyah p. 221, Sichot Ha-Re'eiyah p. 126, Shivchei Ha-Re'eiyah pp. 157-158, Be-Derech Ha-Torah Ha-Goelet p. 97, Tzvi Kodesh p. 146 and Bein Shenei Cohanim Gedolim pp. 36-37]

See Bisdei Ha-Re'eiyah pp. 217-231, Sichot Ha-Re'eiyah pp. 120-133 and the book "Bein Shenei Cohanim Gedolim" which discuss the special relationship between the Chafetz Chaim and Maran Ha-Rav Kook.

3. Ha-Rav Yosef Chaim Sonenfeld:
 A Blessing to be the Cohain Gadol

On Shavuot morning after davening Vatikin, Maran Ha-Rav Kook was walking in one of the alleyways near the Kotel and met Ha-Rav Yosef Chaim Sonenfeld. Ha-Rav Sonenfeld blessed him that he should merit serving as the Cohain Gadol in the Temple.
[Moadei Ha-Re'eiyah pp. 303-304 and see another blessing of Ha-Rav Sonenfeld to Maran Ha-Rav ibid.]

It once happened that Ha-Sonenfeld was honored to be a Mohel at a Brit Milah and Maran Ha-Rav was honored to act as the Sandak. The two Rabbis met at the door of the apartment where the Brit Milah would occur. After they exchanged friendly greetings, a problem arose: Who would enter the house first? Maran Ha-Rav respectfully suggested that Ha-Rav Sonenfeld enter first. But he responded: "His honor is a Cohain and the Chief Rabbi [of Jerusalem] – and the basic halachah is that he should enter first." Maran Ha-Rav humbly answered: "But his honor is greater in Torah than I am." They stood at the door without a decision as to who should enter first. The older houses in Jerusalem were built in such a way that there were two doors in each doorway – the left one was bolted closed and the right one opened and closed, allowing one person to pass through it. Maran Ha-Rav approached the opened door, struck his arm through it and unbolted the left door – and both of them entered at once!
[Melachim Kivnei Adam p. 64]

4. Ha-Rav Chaim Ozer Grodzinski
: A Eulogy for Maran Ha-Rav at a Wedding

When the Chazon Ish left Vilna to make aliyah, Rav Chaim Ozer sent a letter to Maran Ha-Rav requesting his assistance. He began the letter: "The Glory of Honor, My Dear Friend, Ha-Rav Ha-Gaon, Ha-Gadol, the Famous One… The Prince of Torah, Our Teacher, Ha-Rav Avraham Yitzchak Ha-Cohain Kook Shlit"a…"
[Bisdeh Ha-Re'eiyah p. 236, Chayei Ha-Re'eiyah pp. 388-389, Igrot Le-Re'eiyah #316 and Melachim Kivnei Adam pp. 106-107. Maran Ha-Rav's response is found in Shut Da'at Cohain #223]

There was a wedding in Elul 5696 in which Rav Chaim Ozer, Ha-Rav Shimon Shkop and many other great Rabbis attended. When news arrived that Maran Ha-Rav had died, Rav Chaim Ozer instructed Ha-Rav Shmuel Markowitz, Av Beit Din of Turatz to eulogize him. And this is what was done.
[This is quoted by Ha-Rav Tzvi Markowitz in Kovetz "Achiezer" #2 from the year 5628 and Davar Le-Dor – Kovetz Hespedim Al Rav Kook ztz"l p. 89]

See Igrot Le-Re'eiyah where there are tens of letters by Rav Chaim Ozer to Maran Ha-Rav with great respect and honor, and where it is possible to see the close relationship which existed between them.

5. Ha-Rav Isser Zalman Meltzer: 
We are Gedolim until we reach his doorknob

Ha-Rav Isser Zalman Meltzer, Rosh Yeshiva of Eitz Chaim in Jerusalem, said: "I was young when I arrived in Volozhin, and I looked with great respect at the greater students who sat on the eastern wall, and among them were prodigies who would become Gedolei Yisrael. But I remember well that looking at him [Maran Ha-Rav Kook] was completely different - even among the special he was distinguished by his uniqueness!"
[Tal Ha-Re'eiyah p. 71, Shivchei Ha-Re'eiyah p. 101 and the booklet "Az Nebabru Yirei Hashem" p. 13]

Ha-Rav Meltzer once visited Ha-Rav Chaim Ozer Grodzinski, and Ha-Rav Meltzer said about Maran Ha-Rav: "We are Gedolim until we reach his doorknob."
[Mi-Toch Ha-Torah Ha-Goelet vol. 2 p. 170, Le-Shelosha Be-Elul vol. 2 p. 101, Shivchei Ha-Re'eiah p. 202, Bisadeh Ha-Re'eiyah vol. 274, Malachim Kivnei Adam p. 430 and the booklet "Az Nebabru Yirei Hashem" p. 22]

Ha-Rav Meltzer said many times: "If only I could daven during Ne'eilah on Yom Kippur, with awe of holiness and feeling, like Ha-Rav [Kook] davens during weekday Minchah."
[Sichot Ha-Rav Tzvi Yehudah #51, Le-Shelosha Be-Elul vol. 2 p. 102, Orot Ha-Tefillah of Ha-Rav Y. Epstein (student of Ha-Rav Meltzer) p. 26, Shivchei Ha-Re'eiyah p. 200, Malachim Kivnei Adam p. 256 and the booklet "Az Nebabru Yirei Hashem" p. 29]

In the eulogy which Ha-Rav Meltzer delivered for Maran Ha-Rav in the Churva Synagogue in the Old City of Jerusalem, he said: "The True Torah was in his mouth" and "With the passing of Ha-Rav – the spine of Klal Yisrael is broken."
[Moadei Ha-Re'eiyah vol. 12, Le-Shelosha Be-Elul vol 2 p. 101, Shivchei Ha-Re'eiyah p. 15, Bisadeh Ha-Re'eiyah vol. 275 and Malachim Kivnei Adam p. 430]

See the booklet "Az Nebabru Yirei Hashem" from Amichai Kinerati for the close relationship between Ha-Rav Meltzer and Maran Ha-Rav.

6. The Chazon Ish Stands During the Entire Lengthy Speech of Maran Ha-Rav Kook

As related by the founder of the city of Bnei Brak, Rabbi Yitzchak Gershtenkorn: In the year 5694, Ha-Rav Kook was invited to the foundation stone laying ceremony for Yeshivat Beit Yosef (Novardok) in Bnei Brak, and he agreed to attend. During the celebration, in which the Chazon Ish also participated, Ha-Rav [Kook] gave a lengthy speech, with great passion regarding the Torah and Chasidut in Bnei Brak. During the entire time that Ha-Rav Kook spoke, those who attended sat comfortably in their places, while the Chazon Ish remained on his feet and listened intently to Ha-Rav Kook. Only when Ha-Rav Kook finished and sat down did the Chazon Ish sit in his seat. The matter was a wonder in the eyes of those present. Ha-Rav Tzvi Kagan, who was also there, added that when the speech of Ha-Rav Kook became lengthy, they suggested to the Chazon Ish to sit down, but he refused, saying: "The Torah is standing!"
[Pe'er Ha-Dor vol. 2 p. 32, Malachim Kivnei Adam pp. 340-341, Bisadeh Ha-Re'eiyah p. 247, Moadei Ha-Re'eiyah pp. 217-218 and Likutei Ha-Re'eiyah pp. 417-419]

Immediately upon arrival in Eretz Yisrael, the Chazon Ish turned to Maran Ha-Rav with a postcard asking him to clarify the correct procedure for redeeming "Ma'aser Sheni" (The tithe which would be brought to be eaten in Jerusalem). He began: "The Glory of the Honor of our Master Shlit"a".
[Igrot Le-Re'eiyah #310, bisadeh Ha-Re'eiyah p. 35, Chayei Ha-Re'eiyah pp. 119-120 and Moadei Ha-Re'eiyah pp. 217-218. Maran Ha-Rav's response is printed in Shut Mishpat Cohain #53-54 and see Pe'er Ha-Dor vol. 4 pp. 222-223]

The Chazon Ish encouraged his most gifted students to learn the halachic works of Maran Ha-Rav, and he would say: "Ha-Rav's way of learning and clarification of the Halachah is the truth of Torah."
[Re'eiyah Ve-chazon p. 10 and Bisadeh Ha-Re'eiyah p. 145]

See Bisadeh Ha-Re'eiyah pp. 233-248 where there are letters concerning Halachah and filled with respect and honor between Maran Ha-Rav and the Chazon Ish.

7. Ha-Rav Yitzchak Ze'ev Soloveitchik:
The Glory of the Generation

The Brisker Rav wrote to Maran Ha-Rav Kook requesting help for a yeshiva student beginning with these words: "Great blessing for the honor of Ha-Rav Ha-Gaon, Ha-Gadol, the Famous One, the Glory of the Generation… The Prince of Torah, Our Teacher, Ha-Rav R' Avraham Yitzchak Ha-Cohain Shlit"a Kook. The Chief Rabbi in Jerusalem…" And Ha-Griz ended the letter: "I conclude with a blessing for all goodness for the glory of his genius Shlit"a, I respect and cherish the exalted nature of the glory of his genius with all feelings of respect and value."

Ha-Rav Yosha Ber (Ha-Rav Berel Soloveitchik), Ha-Griz's son and Rosh Yeshiva of Yeshivat Brisk following his father, once spoke harshly against Zionism. He was asked: And what about Ha-Rav Kook? He answered: "He is a Gadol." (from Ha-Rav Zalman Baruch Melamed).
[Ha-Rav Eliezer Melamed in the article "Ha-Rav Kook and Beit Brisk" which appeared in the newspaper "Be-Sheva" 5767 and Igrot Le-Re'eiyah #373]

8. Ha-Rav Moshe Feinstein:
 He was the Gaon of Geonim!

Ha-Rav Shabatai Rapaport, Ha-Rav Feinstein's grandson, related that in the year 5739, during Sukkot in Monsey, NY, Ha-Rav Feinstein was involved with writing a contrary view to a responsa of Ha-Rav Eliezer Waldenberg (Tzitz Eliezer). Ha-Rav Rapaport showed his grandfather a statement from Maran Ha-Rav Kook (relating to the issue) which Ha-Rav Rapaport found amazing. Ha-Rav Feinstein responded: "What is surprising, he was the Gaon of Geonim!"
[Likutei Ha-Re'eiyah p. 59]

Ha-Rav Nisan Alpert, Rosh Yeshiva at Yeshiva University, Rabbi of Agudat Yisrael, author of "Limudei Nisan" and Ha-Rav Feinstein's student for forty years, was one of those who eulogized his Rav in New York. He also spoke at a memorial evening for Ha-Rav Kook, on the 50th anniversary of his passing. When he was asked about the connection between his Rav and Ha-Rav Kook, he answered that Ha-Rav Feinstein was a "Chasid" of Ha-Rav Kook. Ha-Rav Feinstein said to learn his books and one will find great things. He also added, rhetorically, that he did not understand what people wanted from Ha-Rav Kook ztz"l.
[Likutei Ha-Re'eiyah p. 60]

9. Ha-Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach:
 I only use the term 'Der Rov', Maran, for Ha-Rav Kook.

Maran Ha-Rav Kook was the Mesader Kiddushin at the wedding of Ha-Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach. Ha-Rav Auerbach's brother-in-law, R' Shemuel Zelig, recalls how Maran Ha-Rav was honored with officiating at the wedding in the Jerusalem neighborhood of "Sha'arei Chesed." Although there were zealots who did not look upon this kindly, the groom's father – Ha-Rav Chaim Leib Auerbach – did not give in, because of the close relationship and deep respect between them.
[Ha-Torah Ha-Mesamachat p. 41 and Sefer Rabbenu p. 140 from the newspaper "Ha-Tzofeh"]

Ha-Rav S.Z. Auerbach said: If I say to you 'Maran' in Yiddish [Der Rov – Ha-Rav], know that I am referring to Ha-Rav Kook zt"l. I only use the term 'Der Rov', Maran, for Ha-Rav Kook.
[Sefer Rabbenu ibid. and the booklet "Or Shlomo" p. 24 and see note 34 where various testimonies to this fact are quoted]

Ha-Rav Auerbach honored Maran Ha-Rav with being the Sandek at the Brit Milah of his eldest son, R' Shmuel, who today serves as the Rosh Yeshiva of "Maalot Ha-Torah" in Jerusalem.
[The booklet "Or Shlomo" p. 21]

Maran Ha-Rav's picture hung together with pictures of other Gedolei Yisrael in Ha-Rav Auerbach's sukkah.
[The booklet "Or Shlomo" p. 28]

Ha-Rav Chaim Shteiner related that someone once published a book about Ha-Rav Yitzchak Elchanan Spector which also included disgraceful words about Ha-Rav Kook. Ha-Rav Auerbach said that it is forbidden to buy this book until it is corrected, and he also wrote a letter to the author asking him to fix it. He also met the author a few times and would always ask if the book was being fixed.

Ha-Rav Avigdor Neventzal related that Ha-Rav Auerbach would not hear the rulings of a particular Torah scholar because he besmirched Ha-Rav Kook's honor.
[Ha-Torah Ha-Mesamachat p. 308 and the booklet "Or Shlomo" p. 30]

Ha-Rav A. Yehoshua Zuckerman related that when someone mentioned in a talk about the horrible behavior of certain individuals against Maran Ha-Rav Kook, Ha-Rav Auerbach responded with great distress: I recommend that those who were brazen and dishonored Ha-Rav should go to his grave and ask forgiveness.
[Ve-Alehu Lo Vibol vol. 1 p. 83 and the booklet "Or Shlomo" p. 30]

And see further in the booklet "Or Shlomo" by Amichai Kinerati for the close relationship between Ha-Rav Auerbach and Maran Ha-Rav.

10. Ha-Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashiv Shlit"a: 
Ha-Rav Kook was greater than us!

R' Aryeh Levin, who often visited Ha-Rav Shlomo Eliyashuv, the author of "Leshem Shevo Ve-Achlama," met the latter's young grandson there – R' Yosef Shalom. Even then, R' Areyh recognized the unique greatness of R' Yosef Shalom. R' Aryeh once spoke with Maran Ha-Rav Kook about his sorrow that there was a wonderful, righteous, young Torah scholar who would a great match for his (R' Aryeh's) daughter, but the young man did not respond favorably to his suggestion (either because he thought he had better options or he was not ready to marry). Maran Ha-Rav asked for the identity of the young man, and told that is was R' Yosef Shalom Elyashiv. Maran Ha-Rav called for the young man and spoke to him. The younger R. Eliyashuv then accepted the proposal and the couple married. Maran Ha-Rav Kook served as the Mesader Kiddushin. When Maran Ha-Rav's name comes up, Ha-Rav Elyashiv often said that he was honored that Maran Ha-Rav performed his wedding.
[Parashah Sheet "Shevet Ha-Re'eiyah #31]

Ha-Rav Yosef Buxbaum, the director of the journal "Moriah” and student of Ha-Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach related:
It once happened that one of the editors of the "Otzar Mefarshei Ha-Talmud" (Treasury of Talmudic Commentators) included a ruling of Maran Ha-Rav Kook, but another editor removed it. I asked him why he removed the ruling: was it because he raised a difficultly with it and it required further study? He answered: "I didn't even look into the issue. I just think that a ruling of Ha-Rav Kook is not appropriate for 'Otzar Mefarsehi Ha-Talmud.'" I said to him: "From this moment, you are fired!" The editor did not accept his decision, and they went to Ha-Gaon Ha-Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashiv. Ha-Rav Elyashiv was shocked and said to the editor: "Did you know Ha-Rav Kook?! You should know – he was holy. He did not belong to our generation, and in his generation, they did not properly understand him. Reb Yosef was certainly permitted to fire you. I would have done the same thing."
[Weekly parashah sheet "Shevet Ha-Re'eiyah #31 and #50]

It is related that Rabbanit Elyashiv once heard words which impinged upon Maran Ha-Rav's honor, and it caused her so much pain that she physically suffered from it for many days.
[Tzadik Yesod Olam p. 232 and Parashah Sheet "Shevet Ha-Re'eiyah #50]

Ha-Rav Elyashiv once wrote a halachic ruling, and after he finished someone showed him a different opinion which Maran Ha-Rav had written on the subject. Ha-Rav Elyashiv immediately ripped up his ruling and changed his opinion to that of Maran Ha-Rav.
[Parashah Sheet "Shevet Ha-Re'eiyah #50]

Ha-Rav Elyashiv once mentioned a particular teaching of Maran Ha-Rav. Someone who was present said that Rabbi so-and-so, one of the greatest Rabbis of the generation, sayid otherwise. Ha-Rav Elyashiv simply responded: Ha-Rav Kook was greater than us!
[Parashah Sheet "Shevet Ha-Re'eiyah #50]



The problem with Rav Kook zt"l was he was way ahead for his time.
He was the ONLY ONE who believed & wrote that the way to be Mekarev the non-religious Yidden is not by fighting them but to invite them into our homes for a Shabbos meal.
A hundred-plus years ago no one agreed with him. They ostracised him
for being friendly with the רשעים

Tom Dick & Harry said...


Can you somehow make it possible for the readers to see the letters that you have posted? The way they are now they are completely illegible.

Also in regard to all of the statements that you bring here from gedoilim, such as the statement from The Chofetz Chaim and the story about The Chazon Ish and statements from Reb Moshe Feinstein etc., how can we verify the truth and authenticity of these stories?

Dusiznies said...

Tom Dick
I will locate those letters and repost them ... those letters were auctioned off so I have to go back and see when it was auctioned ...
If you scroll down you will see the sources of these stories .....

Tom Dick & Harry said...

I am aware of those sources, but they are primarily from materials written by Rav Kook's people. Someone who needs to be convinced, would need outside sources. That's why I didn't ask for the sources as those were clear in your post but rather for means to verify authenticity.

Dusiznies said...

Tom Dick
Of course the sources will be from Rav Kook's supporters ... who else would write about that?
Do you ask those questions about Satmar?
All Satmar stories come from Satmar supporters ... all Bobov Stories come directly from Bobov ...

all bios about R' Eliyashiv and R' Shlomo Zalman Auerbach never mention who their Mesader Kiddushin was...
No modern books, no matter the publisher will write anything positive about Rav Kook z"l ....

and who cares??? I am not here to change anyones mind .... I'm here to show the absurd and how ludicrous and hypocritical the Satmar position is .......

Rav Kook's works and sayings stand all by themselves and prove what a great person he was ...
Compare the books that Rav Kook wrote with the VaYoel Moshe .......
No comparison in depth of their thinkings and knowledge ....

You don't have to convince anyone who Rav Kook was by "stories"
tell them to read his material .... .....

Funny Stange said...

How many serious Torah scholars study the VaYoel Moshe? How many?
Now go to serious shuls in Israel where u can see hundreds of true Torah scholars learning bechavrusa Rav Kook’s sefarim ....
you don’t need verified stories once you pick up any of Rav Kook’s seferaim and see how this Tzaddik looked at Torah Hashkafah
How he interpreted the most complex Talmudic concepts and breaks them down to simple thoughts
Thru his works one can see his humility his righteousness and his love for his fellow Jews
Open the Vayoel Moshe on any Parsha and see his hate jumping from each page ....
The stories that the Satmar Rebbe would help even Zionist Jews are a bunch of lies perpetrated by Satmar propaganda in their newspapers
In fact the Rebbe writes that any one “helping Zionists in any way, are apikorsim and Sheidim.... and even brings proof from the Rashba
How insane is this ?
Don’t try to convince anyone about Rav Kook instead see what he wrote

Dusiznies said...

Tom Dick
Here are some sources:
1) Both Rav Eliyashiv and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach always supported Rav Kook and never wavered

See Kinarti, Or Shelomoh." R' Eliyashiv supported the firing of a Machon Yerushalyim editor who refused to include passages from R' Kook's writings"
See the interview with R' Yosef Buxbaum, the director of Machon Yerushalyim, in Besheva, no 104 (5 Aug 2004) available at
See also Anon., Hashakdan,i,57: Anon, Yisa shalom (n.p.2012).

2) The Chazon Ish,when first arriving in Israel, addressed a halachic question to R' Kook, referring to him by the honorific title "hod kevod maran, shlita"
Both of the Chazon Ish's letters to R Kook have recently been reprinted, but the phrase "hod kevod maran shlita" which appeared in one of these letters has now been deleted
See AI.Karelitz, Genazim ushe'elot uteshuvot hazon ish, i.126

3) see a hespid by R Aryeh Levin, page 423 in the book named "A tzaddik in our time" published by Feldheim

4) Most Chareidiem keep printing the lie that the Old Yishuv were opposed to R fact the overwhelming majority were in R Kook's corner need only look at the list of Rabbanim and Roshei Yeshiva that welcomed R Kook's appointment as rav of Yerushalyim.....
See B.Z. Shapira 156-68 The Yeshivas in support were Eitz Chayim, Chayeh Olam, Me'ah She'arim, Toras Chayim and Shaar Hashamayim

5) R Tzvi Pesach Frank was one of the leading rabbinic figures who stood with R' Kook...
In a letter to R Chayim Hirschensohn, we get a glimpse of his anger at the opposition of R Kook
See page 147 by Marc Shapiro "Changing the Immutable"

The truth is that R Kook's supporters were silent in face of all the Chareidie distortions of the historical record.
One important thing they did do was to publish the volume "Igerot Lare'yah which contain photos and the transcripts of over 500 hundred pages of letters from Gedoilei Yisrael to Rav Kook...

Amihai Kinarti recently published four booklets documenting the close and respectful relationships with R Kook enjoyed by four outstanding Gedoilim
Rabbi Chayim Ozer Grodzinski, R Isser Zalman Meltzer, R Tzvi Pesach Frank and R Shlomo Zalman Auerbach.

Also see Kampinski "Bein Shenei Kohanim Gedolim" which deals with the relationship between R Kook and the Chafetz Chayim

To see how the Chareidie World systematically destroyed Rav Kook and deliberately destroyed his reputation because R Kook saw fit to be mekareiv all Jews
see and read Changing the Immutable: by Marc Shapiro

There is now hundreds of letters to Rav Kook from Gedoilim being Auctioned and as they get auctioned I will make photos of them and print them

Tom Dick & Harry said...


Thank you for your response.

My question was not facetious but rather a sincere request for information and I thank you for giving me the courtesy of a sincere response.

@Funny Stange

Badmouthing The Satmar Rav doesn't help build Rav Kook. No great person would be happy to be honored at the expense of another.

Also you should know that this is a very serious issue being discussed here. One may not shame or disrespect a Talmid Chacham and DIN is trying to get make that point in connection to Rav Kook. By you speaking of The Satmar Rav disrespectfully, you are missing the larger point. We should all be more mindful before we speak this way of a Gadol or Tzadik or any Rav and actually, come to think of it, of any Jew.

Anonymous said...

I've returned from hibernation just to specifically comment on this DIN post.

Moran Harav Kook ZT"L was yochid b'doro and b'doreinu.
He was a powerful light who loved all Jews and understood the nashama of each individual Jew far, far deeper than his lowly critics . He chose to show the beauty of Torah to influence rather than expose the ugly in a Jew to defame. At the same time, he was strong when he needed to be, and didn't yield an inch of halacha , contrary to the claims of his lowly ignorant critics. He chose the path of conversation and warmth and in this way hoped to draw chilonim to Yiddishkeit.

He was misunderstood because giants are misunderstood by pathetic pygmies.His seforim are ever popular and are printed to a greater extent more than others, even though you'd never know it by the silence of his opposition.
Sadly, as the chareidi world has gone insanely extremist , so have some of his talmidei - talmidim ….. and revisions, shkorim and fakery by them is almost as rampant as the frum world in general … The chareidi extremists are in control of opinion and narrative by virtue of shrill propaganda and control freakdom , labelling anyone not drinking their pathetic Koolaid , a heretic and worse. They have poisoned the minds of youth against the State of Israel not with sane logical arguments, but with lies, fabrications and out-of-context fiction. They are crawling all over the place …. shtieblach, Internet, magazines and toirah'lach by the leaders who are surrounded by bludgeon- armed thugs who call anyone
who disagrees, an apikorus who doesn't bend to their..... excuse the expression.... Daas Torah.... an invented phrase.

@12;27."....They ostracised him
for being friendly with the רשעים …."

You mean chilonim, SOME of them who were reshaim..And, Pssssst…. don't fall off your chair that reshaim exist in the religious, even those who put on a 3rd, Shimushei Rabah tefillin and repeat the Kriyas Shema 3x.
What do mean 'friendly'? He ate kishke and Litvishe p'tcha with them and ok'd their stuff?

Finally.... A Warning...!!!!
Those out there who use profane language to describe him (I'm not talking about sane, logical disagreement to which everyone is entitled ) are playing with dangerous explosives …
I'm not a navi, nor as far as I know, a son of a navi ( May my father A"H forgive me if he indeed was one) but I knew someone, a very nice person, a baal chessed, gave tzedakah beyond his means , a yodei sefer, a frum ehrlicher davener and who gave everybody nothing but respect.....nevertheless, he bought into the Satmar/Brisk shittah to the extent that one morning before shachris during the coffee Klatch , the name of Rav Kook came up and he went bananas…..cursed with the infamous 2-word curse which I won't repeat here.... I begged him to stop, but he went on and on despite my warnings. Within the year he suffered a massive stroke , was in a coma for 3 months before being niftar.
No... I have no clue if this was connected, I'm not claiming that it was, and make no claim whatsoever about the connection.... So let me be clear on that.... By the same token , Chashuva rabosiei….By the same token.... I have absolutely no way of knowing that it wasn't..

the Derby...
edited by Cha Cha de Chazente.

Anonymous said...

Read this excerpt from Arutz7 about the Call issued by Rav Kook as early as 1907, when the Ottoman Turks ruled then Palestine.
Reading his prophetic words chills one's bones.
He saw and felt it coming long before anyone else did.
Better said, he commiserated with Jewish blood spilled in pogroms ( from 1880s ) and saw the handwriting on the wall. Unfortunately , there was more to come before the Holocaust.
I still haven't gotten an answer to my decades old question :

Those who attack Herzl, Jabotinsky, Rav Kook, Rav Reinis of Mizrachi , Religious Zionism , Zionism, Zionism, blah, blah.. etc....
When was an asifah, or fast day or Yom Tefillah organized for the pogrom victims from 1880 -1933) ??
Please document your "evidence" ….. Document organized empathy from the religious leadership with prima facie evidence, primary sources .... not with baloney statements... Show evidence of assemblies at convention centers in Poland to help move Jews out and into EY other than Zionists ....
( I can document the opposite, but let's leave that for another time)

Here's Rav Kook's Call:

Today is the 3rd of Elul, the yahrtzeit of Rabbi Avraham Yitzhak HaKohen Kook. He wrote this open letter, which he named, “The Great Call,” to world Jewry in 1907 when the Turks ruled the Land of Israel, when travel was difficult, when livelihood was sparse, before there was a Jewish airline, and a thriving economy, a rebuilt Jerusalem, government subsidies, and Jewish communities filled with yeshivot, modern ten-story apartment buildings, and split-level homes.
To the Land of Israel, Gentlemen, To the Land of Israel! Let us utter this appeal in one voice, in a great and never-ending cry!
“Come to the Land of Israel, dear brothers, come to the Land of Israel. Save your souls, the soul of your generation, the soul of the entire nation; save her from desolation and destruction, save her from decay and degradation, save her from defilement and all evil — from all of the suffering and oppression that threatens to come upon her in all the lands of the world without exception or distinction.
“Escape with your lives and come to Israel; G-d’s voice beckons us; His hand is outstretched to us; His spirit within our hearts unites us, encourages us and obliges us all to cry in a great, powerful and awesome voice: Brothers! Children of Israel, beloved and dear brethren, come to the Land of Israel, do not tarry with arrangements and official matters; rescue yourselves, gather, come to the Land of Israel....
“And now, who is so blind that he does not see the L-rd’s hand guiding us in this, and does not feel obligated to work along with G-d? A heavenly voice in the future will cry aloud from the top of the mountains and say, ‘Whoever has wrought with G-d, let him come and receive his reward.’ Who can exempt himself from doing his part in bringing additional blessing and swifter salvation; from awakening many hearts to return to the Holy Land, to the L-rd’s legacy, that they may become a part of it, to settle it with enterprises and buildings, to purchase property, to plant and sow, to do everything necessary for the foundation of life of a stable and organized settlement....
“Brothers, come to the Land of Israel.”

the Derby
edited by Naase Vesh

Anonymous said...

Finally, my thoughts about Lubavitch.

".....By a Lubavitcher... every "sheigatz" is a Yid..."

Very true. Their work is phenomenal worldwide, I lived in CH for a time, I respect their relationships with every Jew.

That said, it's time to move on and face reality.
By that I mean 2 things.

1) The latest Rebbe was friendly with Israeli leaders , communicated with , and encouraged them. He was moving away from the previous rebbes' vehement opposition to Zionism. The Rebbe however, never came out and recognized Israel formally.
So today, even though Chabad has shuls, yeshivos and army boys in Tzahal they're still fence sitters and won't recognize the State of Israel, preferring instead to deal in Yiddishkeit… which is ok, but it's time to get off the fence and deal with reality. somehow, They get a ton of donation money and work in the Zionist State which still helps them with money.
Which leads directly to my next point.

2.... It's time for the worldwide shlichos campaign to end. It was great while it lasted, but with anti-Semitism all over the world, coupled with the miraculous growth of EY, the campaigns should be about helping Jews make Aliya, not about peppering them with Chanukah latkes, Purim graggers, Pesach matzohs and talleisim. Bring them home already. You shlichim will find jobs in EY just as you do in Hutzinplutz Serbia or Oshbegosh , Amazon Jungle. Bring'em home...
Not a penny more for machzorim , kosher bakeries and shul renovation... It's Over, Chabad....

EY is somehow in competition with you??
Some of you still believe that the Rebbe, whom I respect greatly, is Moshiach and until he comes, Eretz Yisroel is a footnote?
It's pikuach nefesh…
Crown Heights from where all this comes, isn't holy... Dismantle 770, move the bricks to Pardes Chana , rebuild it there and call it a day. Remember.... the CH pogrom was the only pogrom against Jews in America.. Didn't get the message?

Which brings me to Rabbi Teichtal, chief rabbi of Berlin.. A grandson of Harav Yisochor Shlomo Teichtal HY"D , author of Eim Habonim Semeicha who shouted for Jews to live in EY.
He became a Chabad shaliach , was spat on in the streets of Berlin the other day, appeared with Merkel in a photo-op last year praising the anti-_Semitic EU and tucchis lekks Merkel's government at any time..
German Jews can't wear a kippa publicly, but all this doesn't faze Teichtal. Instead of boldly calling for Aliyah , he has a good honorable position , and doing "Yiddishkeit", dontcha know...

Chabad..!! You guys are great but the galus show is over...
Stop pretending that EY exists b'dieved ,already..
Pull for your Rebbe as Moshiach on Rechov Yaffo…. I'm good with that too... Just get the heck out of Europe, and yes, even Crown Heights...
Eastern Parkway isn't in Jerusalem ..!!

the Derby.... edited by Yenk

Dusiznies said...

Dear readers
I have deleted the comments of a guy that calls himself
"Greater Monsey" ....
"Greater Monsey" parrots Satmar anti-Jewish propaganda taken directly from some Jewish Chareidie self hating Jewish blogs and this "tzaddik" wants to prove all this from some facebook group ;)
These bastards continue to distort Rav Kook's writings and hashkafa..
and I won't allow that on my site ....
there are numerous Nazi blogs that they can spew their hate