A bitter end to the rally: after the tragedy, organizers called on the crowds to go home and ordered those on rooftops to come down immediately.
A man died on Thursday during the haredi demonstration against military conscription, after he fell from a height at a construction site on Shazar Boulevard in Jerusalem. The victim was later identified as 20-year-old Menachem Mendel Litzman.
Litzman fell approximately 20 stories. MDA paramedics who rushed to the scene found the victim suffering from multi-system trauma and no vital signs, and had to pronounce him dead at the scene.
Police are investigating the possibility that Litzman committed suicide and did not fall accidentally.
Forces from the Jerusalem District Police are at the scene and have begun investigating the incident.
MDA paramedic Lishai Shemesh and EMT Daniel Alkayam recounted: "The teen lay unconscious at the foot of a high-rise construction site without a pulse and not breathing, with very severe multi-system trauma."
"We were told that he fell from a high height. We conducted medical examinations, but his injuries were critical, and unfortunately, we had no choice but to pronounce him dead," they reported.
Yisrael Beytenu Chairman Avigdor Liberman sharply attacked the haredi leadership following the incident. "The rotten haredi leadership is directly responsible for the painful death of a young boy in a despicable and unnecessary demonstration. He came out on the orders of that leadership to be a human shield for the power and influence of the haredi activists."
Magen David Adom, which has been on medical standby at the rally, reported that as of 16:45, it had treated 56 participants. Of those treated, four required further care and were evacuated to hospitals in mild condition (including two cases of fainting, a cardiac incident, and a minor injury).
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DIN im curious if they accomplished their goals. What was the purpose of demonstrating in an orthodox area. Also why do he police even engage. Let them block roads, they are only hurting themselves? Im truly curious. TY
Most outlets are saying he slipped, maybe change your headline until we know.
I have been informed that they have a suicide note!
GI_JOE
They did not accomplish their goals; they made it worse! In fact, many are saying that they don't believe that Torah saves anyone, because they in fact closed their Yeshivos, and that's because they don't believe it, but they want us Jlubs to believe it!
Yerushlayim is not only orthodox, in fact, it is full of tourists! And that was their point to inconvenience those tourists to make them aware that there is a major segment that doesn't recognize the Jewish State!
The video thats going around seems he slipped
What did they accomplish? They confirmed to the entire country that their slogan "Torah learning is the true protection!" is a lie that they don't really believe.
He was a Chusid of the Rebbuh MH"M, son of shluchim to South Korea. He knew Tanya baal peh it was said.
Where were you informed from?
I was standing right near there on the ground And from all the people in the building, they were saying he slipped
Sounds like you were just hating
I was informed by a family member who lives in Beit Shemesh!
If you are right, then his blood is on Rav Landau and Rav Hirsch!
And I would then ask them if it was all worth it, that a bochor got killed because of them!
DIN - Like many before you you embarked on a mission to add a more moderate/Leftie view of things, which can actually be appreciated. But what inevitably happens is it has turned you into a hater of the Charedei world, the world of Shomrei Torah U"Mitzvos. It is really sad. You have become the things you rail about.
They dont give a damn. They will do anything to maintain control over these kids. The fact that they have no qualms about inconveniencing thousands of people shows that with all their learning, they have no derech eretz. And we see it in the boys. Beating up older men, screaming shiksa at a frum woman, etc. These gedolim will get there just rewards after 120.
The Habad don't follow Rav Landau & Rav Hirsch. If they went, it was their choice.
In DIN “logic” someone with a mental health crisis offing himself is the fault of elderly rabbonim (when DIN is lucky enough to have an incident with coincidental timing that he can bray vee a Chamoir about). The genius would also have you believe that if someone committed suicide in Los Angeles last week it is also the gedolim’s fault because they complained to a few people about the Tzionim at the Rechnitz wedding
Any relation to the Litzman criminal who was forced out of the Knesset as part of the deal to avoid prison time?
Ironically one of the slogans at the anti draft demonstrations is "I'd rather die than serve in the army". The Rabbis need to wake up and do an honest heshbon nefesh. In the summer's demontration in Bnai Brak while blocking the highway another young man collapsed and died. Again, the same slogan.
It's in tge organizers interest to say it was suicide, thus absolving themselves from any responsibility.
10:51
You "were right next to him" turns out you are a liar, and may I add a Charedie liar! #2 What were you doing in the building? It was under construction,
11:46
I'm a hater??? I just reported what everyone else did! That many of the Chareidim that attended were a bunch of uncivilized reckless fools!
I'm not a hater of Torah, I'm actually in Kollel most of the day and I give well attended Shiurim every single day, the one's who hate Torah were at that rally, because those who love Torah were learning at that time!
6:04
You are an unmitigated fool and most of your comment is incoherent!
I was in the mental health field for over 15 years, I know all about it, and I can tell from your comment that you need help, fast......very fast!
DIN, what was your role in the mental health field? On the receiving end of therapy? A lot of people think you are one sick puppy for blaming some frail old Litvishe rabbonim for the suicide of a bochur who was nebich being bullied by his fellow Lubavs. Surely you have seen the letter circulating of one of the bullies asking mechila
12:59
I never implied anywhere that these clueless disconnected "frail old Litvishe rabbonim "were to blame. Where did I say that? When did I say that? You liar!
I'm beginning to hear rumors that he actually fell and that the "Litvishe" ASSkonim are pushing this "suicide" angle to take off the heat! The "bully letter" was already exposed as a fraud!
Meanwhile, one bochur fell off one of the buildings and is fighting for his life and that I do blame on the Charedie community, who don't give a crap about safety!
lol Din cares about safety but doesn’t care to send soilders to there deaths yiddishe neshamos just send them to Gaza for what? What did you arrogant Zionists gain? O right you gained creating almanos and yesomim so you can tell everyone look we need to protect ourselves we need a state that causes more bloodshed than anything else since the holocaust (if I may add it helped the holocaust)
Take your stupid Zionist ideology and stay far away from yiddishkeit we don’t want your ideology and your movements just stop killing us!
3:57
Accusing Zionists of “creating almanos and yesomim” is not just cruel—it’s historically and morally wrong.
Israel didn’t start this war. Hamas did—on October 7th, with the massacre of 1,200 Jews, the kidnapping of hundreds, and the rape and torture of innocents. The IDF didn’t march into Gaza for ideology. It went in to protect Jewish lives. To rescue hostages. To prevent another slaughter.
You say Zionism causes bloodshed. I say Zionism gave Jews a refuge after the Holocaust. It gave us a homeland where we could defend ourselves instead of begging foreign governments to save us. It gave us the ability to bury our dead with dignity—and to fight so that fewer Jews would need burying.
You say “stay far away from Yiddishkeit.” But Zionism and Yiddishkeit are not enemies. Rav Kook z”l, Rav Herzog z”l, and countless Torah giants saw the hand of Hashem in the return to Eretz Yisrael. Soldiers who fight in Gaza are not “killers”—they are protectors. Many of them wear tzitzis under their uniforms and say Tehillim before battle.
If you truly care about yiddishe neshamos, then honor those who risk their lives to protect them. Don’t spit on their graves with slogans.
Let’s not desecrate the memory of the fallen by blaming them for defending Am Yisrael.
רַבִּי אַבָּא בַּר כַּהֲנָא פָּתַח (ירמיה ט, יא): מִי הָאִישׁ הֶחָכָם וְיָבֵן אֶת זֹאת וגו', תָּנֵי רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן יוֹחָאי, אִם רָאִיתָ עֲיָרוֹת נִתְלָשׁוֹת מִמְּקוֹמָן בְּאֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל, דַּע שֶׁלֹּא הֶחֱזִיקוּ בִּשְׂכַר סוֹפְרִים וּבִשְׂכַר מַשְׁנִים, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (ירמיה ט, יא): עַל מָה אָבְדָה הָאָרֶץ וַיֹּאמֶר ה' עַל עָזְבָם אֶת תּוֹרָתִי. רַבִּי הֲוָה מְשַׁלַּח לְרַבִּי אַסֵּי וּלְרַבִּי אַמֵּי דְּיִפְּקוּן וִיתַקְנוּן קִרְיָיתָא דְאַרְעָא דְיִשְׂרָאֵל, וַהֲווֹן עָלִין לְקִרְיָיתָא וְאָמְרִין לְהוֹן אַיְיתוּ לָן נְטוֹרֵי קַרְתָּא, וַהֲווֹן מַיְיתוּ לְהוֹן רֵישׁ מַטַּרְתָּא וְסַנְטֵרָא, וַהֲווֹן אָמְרִין לְהוֹן אִלֵּין נְטוֹרֵי קַרְתָּא, אִלֵּין חֲרוֹבֵי קַרְתָּא, אָמְרוּ לְהוֹן וּמַאן אִנּוּן נְטוֹרֵי קַרְתָּא אָמְרוּ לָהֶם אֵלּוּ סוֹפְרִים וּמַשְׁנִים, שֶׁהֵם הוֹגִים וּמַשְׁנִים וּמְשַׁמְּרִין אֶת הַתּוֹרָה בַּיּוֹם וּבַלַּיְלָה, עַל שֵׁם שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (יהושע א, ח): וְהָגִיתָ בּוֹ יוֹמָם וָלַיְלָה.
It's in eicha rabbah peticha. That ist the hashkofa behind the kollel system and hisnagdus against zionim.
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In all my decades of learning and teaching Torah, I’ve rarely encountered such blatant amaratzus as the claim that Zionism is inherently anti-Torah. Millions of Zionists learn Torah daily. The idea that Zionists have ever stopped anyone from learning is not just false—it’s absurd.
Let’s talk facts: In the last 77 years, there hasn’t been a single case of the Zionist government preventing Torah study. On the contrary, last year alone, the Israeli government allocated over 850 million shekels to support Mosdos HaTorah. That’s not persecution—that’s partnership.
And let’s address the myth of the “Kollel system.” There was no mass Kollel infrastructure in Jewish history until the modern era. For 3,500 years, Jews worked, supported their families, and learned Torah. The first organized Kollel in America was founded by Rav Aharon Kotler with around 100 avreichim. The rest? A handful of elderly scholars in the Lower East Side. The idea of tens of thousands learning full-time indefinitely is a modern invention—not a timeless tradition.
So don’t rewrite history. Don’t drag the names of Rebbe Abba bar Kahana, Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai, Rabbi Asi, or Rabbi Ammi into ideological battles they never fought. They’d be appalled by the distortion of Torah to justify political disengagement and economic dependency.
And while we’re at it—what are you doing on the internet on Motzei Shabbos, throwing stones at fellow Jews who actually live Torah every day?
And let me add something NOT from a "eicha rabbah peticha" but from the Torah itself!
Before the RBS"O introduced himself to Noach, Yitzchok and Yaakov, Moshe etc, we learn that they were tzaddikim, but when we come across RBS"O's talk to Avraham, nowhere in the Torah itself does it say that he was a "tzaddik?
Have you ever wondered about that? I guess not!
The reason that the RBS"O told Avraham Lech Lecha to give him Eretz Yisrael was because he loved him and had nothing to do about the Tzidkas of Avraham Aveenu! We don't know why Hashem chose Avraham and why HE chose to give him Eretz Yisrael! But it had NOTHING to do with his righteousness, that's why the Torah deliberately omitted any background of Avraham Aveenu to teach us this fact!
Hashem gave us Eretz Yisrael NOT because of Charedim but despite them
Why? For one reason only, because He promised to Avraham Yotzchok and Yaakov!
אַל־תֹּאמַ֣ר בִּלְבָבְךָ֗ בַּהֲדֹ֣ף יְהֹוָה֩ אֱלֹהֶ֨יךָ אֹתָ֥ם ׀ מִלְּפָנֶ֘יךָ֮ לֵאמֹר֒ בְּצִדְקָתִי֙ הֱבִיאַ֣נִי יְהֹוָ֔ה לָרֶ֖שֶׁת אֶת־הָאָ֣רֶץ הַזֹּ֑את וּבְרִשְׁעַת֙ הַגּוֹיִ֣ם הָאֵ֔לֶּה יְהֹוָ֖ה מוֹרִישָׁ֥ם מִפָּנֶֽיךָ׃
לֹ֣א בְצִדְקָתְךָ֗ וּבְיֹ֙שֶׁר֙ לְבָ֣בְךָ֔ אַתָּ֥ה בָ֖א לָרֶ֣שֶׁת אֶת־אַרְצָ֑ם כִּ֞י בְּרִשְׁעַ֣ת ׀ הַגּוֹיִ֣ם הָאֵ֗לֶּה יְהֹוָ֤ה אֱלֹהֶ֙יךָ֙ מוֹרִישָׁ֣ם מִפָּנֶ֔יךָ וּלְמַ֜עַן הָקִ֣ים אֶת־הַדָּבָ֗ר אֲשֶׁ֨ר נִשְׁבַּ֤ע יְהֹוָה֙ לַאֲבֹתֶ֔יךָ לְאַבְרָהָ֥ם לְיִצְחָ֖ק וּֽלְיַעֲקֹֽב
לֹ֣א בְצִדְקָתְךָ֗ וּבְיֹ֙שֶׁר֙ לְבָ֣בְךָ֔ אַתָּ֥ה בָ֖א לָרֶ֣שֶׁת אֶת־אַרְצָ֑ם כִּ֞י בְּרִשְׁעַ֣ת ׀ הַגּוֹיִ֣ם הָאֵ֗לֶּה יְהֹוָ֤ה אֱלֹהֶ֙יךָ֙ מוֹרִישָׁ֣ם מִפָּנֶ֔יךָ וּלְמַ֜עַן הָקִ֣ים אֶת־הַדָּבָ֗ר אֲשֶׁ֨ר נִשְׁבַּ֤ע יְהֹוָה֙ לַאֲבֹתֶ֔יךָ לְאַבְרָהָ֥ם לְיִצְחָ֖ק וּֽלְיַעֲקֹֽב׃
וְיָדַעְתָּ֗ כִּ֠י לֹ֤א בְצִדְקָֽתְךָ֙ יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱ֠לֹהֶ֠יךָ נֹתֵ֨ן לְךָ֜ אֶת־הָאָ֧רֶץ הַטּוֹבָ֛ה הַזֹּ֖את לְרִשְׁתָּ֑הּ כִּ֥י עַם־קְשֵׁה־עֹ֖רֶף אָֽתָּה׃
I'm not saying the kollel system is right or wrong. that was the answer r. Elyashiv z"l gave to someone asked him how can rockets fall on the holy land.
so we see he did drag their names into this ideological battles.
this is from netsach yisroel. but the maharal doesn't really explain why was he chosen. only what are not the reasons...
Very “funny”, not 1 case of Zionists stopping limud Hatorah? You never gonna admit it but here goes … 1. beating the #%¥! out of the Yaldei Teheran who wanted to learn in yeshiva. The only ones who pulled it off were the ones who escaped & ran for their lives to the refuge of Ponivizher Ruv. 2. Zionists also beat the living daylights out of the Teimanisher kinder from “Magic” Geshtekteh Carpet who wanted to learn. In both above cases it was like Cantonistim being crushed by the Czar. 3. There were yeshivos for 1000s of years in Morocco since Churban Bayis Rishon until the Zionist Alliance show up & destroy Yiddishkeit dort in a single generation. 4. Yeshivos in der Unterland until 1944 when Kapo Kasztner, a Zionist macher, told the bucherim to get on the trains to Auschwitz, az tze vet zein git. He sell them out so the Nazis let him be only Jew in Hungary with freedom, a car, a telephone & baksheesh $$$. You hypocrite always bashing Friedlander & Fatso Nadler. But not one word about Kasztner except you make your silly distractions about Satmar Ruv to cover up for him - all because he Zionist!
Uvnei Korach Lo Meisu
Yaldei Teiman: Yes, there were tragic cases of children being separated from their families. But many were placed with religious families who couldn’t have children of their own. That’s why Agudah and even Satmar are quietly fighting in secular Israeli courts to keep those adoption records sealed—because they know the truth is more complicated than the propaganda. And let’s not forget: according to a Haaretz poll, the overwhelming majority of those children—or their descendants—returned to Torah observance. So if the goal was to destroy Yiddishkeit, it failed spectacularly.
Yaldei Teheran: The ones who made it to the Ponovizher Rav were saved by Zionists who helped smuggle them out of Europe. Without Zionist infrastructure, they wouldn’t have had a refuge in Eretz Yisrael at all.
Morocco and der Unterland: Blaming Zionism for the collapse of Jewish life in Morocco or Hungary is like blaming the fire department for the arson. The destruction of yeshivos in Europe was the direct result of Nazi genocide and post-war assimilation—not Zionist ideology. And invoking Kasztner? He’s controversial, no doubt. But he also saved the Satmar Rebbe’s life. Funny how that part gets conveniently ignored.
You want to talk about hypocrisy? You bash Zionists while living in a country built by them, protected by them, and funded by them—including the Torah institutions you claim they tried to destroy. The truth is, Zionism didn’t stop Torah learning—it enabled it to flourish in ways our ancestors could only dream of.
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