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Tuesday, July 9, 2024

Litvishe Gedoilim Seeking to keep Bnei-Torah in Poverty Slam Belz-Boyan-Karlin & Sanz Who Want to End This Vicious Cycle!

I have to laugh! They spend $175,000 on a plane ride to the US to schnor $100 Million (they came up 50 million short) and who are they schnorring from? From Business People!!! What utter Hypocrisy!! 

They preach that "hishtadles" is enough! But I guess they don't really believe in this concept from the Chovas Halevavois. Hishtadlus would have been to make to make a simple phone call, who wouldn't donate getting a phone call from Gedoiei Hador? Who wouldn't donate if Rav Landau or Rav Hirsch would make that personal phone call? 

But they, the Gedoilim unfortunately didn't practice what they preach! An "hishtadlus" phone call wouldn't do, they needed to spend $175,000 to travel halfway around the world; but Hashem had other plans. Not only couldn't they meet their goal but the news in Lakewood was dominated by two awful tragedies. And the Lakewood and other communities weren't in the mood to meet them properly! Even if they had met their goals, that would have been a drop in the Atlantic Ocean! The Israeli Zionists gave Mosdois HaTorah last year over $325 million dollars! They would have to be back in 3 months! 

And this whole campaign is disingenuous to begin with. The government only discontinued funding Yeshiva guys who were under 26, those over 26 in Kollilm continue getting their funds! In fact in the Kollel that I learn in, not one avreich was effected, not one!

Now they want to drag Belz and others who want to better their lives into their cesspool of poverty. Thankfully, Chasidim are much smarter and won't be influenced by this lunacy!


In recent weeks several Chasidic groups, including Belz, Boyan, Karlin and Tzanz, have decided to join the new State-Charedi educational system, which provides full funding in return for studying a core curriculum (designated for charedim) including English, Math and civic studies. Despite assurances that they would receive funding even if they maintained their own systems, the money has not been forthcoming and the chasidic groups decided of their own initiative to join the new system.

The heads of the Lithuanian charedi community, Rabbi Dov Landau and Rav Moshe Hillel Hirsch, have strongly condemned those who joined the state charedi system. At a recent gathering for Degel Hatorah representatives, Rabbi Landau’s opinion was stated and a letter from him was read. The letter was published Tuesday in the Yated Neeman newspaper, as well as a similar letter from Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch. Both the heads of the Slabodka yeshiva sharply opposed the moves to join the state charedi system.

המכתב המלא

Rabbi Landau wrote that “the matter of pure education was always the focal point of our teachers, the Gedolim of the generation and they stood firm not to allow foreign elements to be involved in it. I offer encouragement to the heads of institutions maintaining the pure and unadulterated education according to our tradition. They are bravely withstanding all the temptations despite growing economic difficulties. Everyone recalls the strong stand of Rabbi Gershon Edelstein in his last years against the attempts to place Talmud Torahs into the state charedi education.

“Now we have heard the sad news that some intend to accept the ministry of education’s programs. Heaven forfend that we place institutions in the state charedi network. Woe to us that this has happened. They should realize that besides the evil they are causing themselves and their children, they are causing great damage to the entire charedi community, making such a great breach in the house of Israel, that we don’t know the end of it. We therefore call upon all those who have veered towards this worrying and awful program, renege on all of your plans to change the face of the education, and Hashem will provide for you.”

Rabbi Hirsch added in his letter that the “State Charedi program being sponsored by the ministry of education has a dangerous involvement in the independence of our education, as is known from the severe results of this education until now. Therefore the Gedolim in every generation dedicated themselves to this basic concept, that there should be no influence and meddling in the education of our children.”

 

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

You're in kollel?

Anonymous said...

Rav Landau is actually a Chabadsker

Knock it off DIN said...

"Hishtadlus would have been to make to make a simple phone call, who wouldn't donate getting a phone call from Gedoiei Hador? Who wouldn't donate if Rav Landau or Rav Hirsch would make that personal phone call?"

When Trump, Biden, other politicians raise money, do they just make phone calls? No. They know that showing up in person means much more, and brings a greater response.

FYI said...

"The heads of the Lithuanian charedi community, Rabbi Dov Landau and Rav Moshe Hillel Hirsch"

Neither is Lithuanian. R. Landau is Polish and R. Hirsch is Hungarian.

Dusiznies said...

על ראשון,ראשון,ועל אחרון, אחרון
3:53
Yup I'm in Kollel
4:06
He is representing Livaks, he isn't representing Chabad

Knock it off DIN
Trump Biden and other politicians don't learn the Chovas Halvovois!

FYI
It doesn't make a difference what their background is, they are representing Litvaks! I believe Hungary was very far from Slabodke both in distance and in Haskafa!

FYI said...

"Anonymous said...
Rav Landau is actually a Chabadsker

July 9, 2024 at 4:06 PM"

Nope. You are mixing up two different Landaus. There is a Chabadsker Landau who is a Rabbi in Bnei Brak, I guess you are thinking of him. The one in the post here is someone else, a senior Rosh Yeshiva.

אשריכם ישראל said...

What type of a Keyllel are you in?

Kollel? Koillel? Keyllel?

וואס לערנט מען דארטען
?

מי כעמך ישראל...even a famous blogger is in Keyllel.

Anonymous said...

"The Israeli Zionists gave Mosdois HaTorah last year over $325 million dollars! They would have to be back in 3 months!

And this whole campaign is disingenuous to begin with. The government only discontinued funding Yeshiva guys who were under 26, those over 26 in Kollilm continue getting their funds! In fact in the Kollel that I learn in, not one avreich was effected, not one!"


You are the one being disingenuous. The total support to all Mosdos was $325 Million. Of that, $107M was cut, representing the under-26 students. The rest is for older students and was not cut.

Moshiach Now! said...

Both Landaus mentioned are Chabadskers. When the Slabodka rosh yeshiva visits NY he takes time out for Lubavitch destinations that even Rubashkin's BFF Pinny Lipschutz doesn't report on!

אמת said...

R. Dov Landau is not a Chabadsker.

Stop the fake news.

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%93%D7%95%D7%91_%D7%9C%D7%A0%D7%93%D7%95

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dov_Lando