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Thursday, May 26, 2011

Skverer Rebbi Condemns The Violence & Wishes the Victim Well

Updated May 27, 2011
From Failed Messiah a recording in yiddish by the Skevere Rebbi who under tremendous pressure had to cave in an issue a statement
Skeverer Rebbi finally telling students not to resort to violence!
In this statement the Rebbi does ask that violence never be used, and wished a "Refuah Shlimah" for all those who need it,



Shaul Spitzer:
 Photo credit:failedmessiah
Lipa Shmelter visits Chaim Aaron Rottenberg


Journal News:
The Skvere Rebbe has not expressed any sympathy for Aron Rottenberg. He has not even asked his followers to pray for Rottenberg's recovery. This dynastic leader goes on with his regal life as if nothing has happened, as if a man is not lying in a hospital bed fighting for his life with the skin and flesh burned from half his body, simply because he did not want to pray at the Rebbe's synagogue.

Yet under the direction of the Skvere Rebbe a man was harassed, threatened and attacked. And then he and his family were almost murdered.

That harassment and those attacks are crimes. They are violations of Aaron Rottenberg's civil rights and the civil rights of his wife and children. Their attempted murder is hate crime, and the attempted arson of the Rotenberg home is no different than the burning of a black church or the firebombing of a synagogue.

These are federal crimes. They cry out for federal investigation.

And that investigation if faithfully conducted will, I believe, lead to the conviction and imprisonment of New Square's rabbinic and governmental leadership, including Rabbi David Twersky, the not so grand rabbi of the cult and criminal enterprise known as New Square.

Rottenberg's wife, Ruth Rottenberg, told reporters in her home Wednesday that the family had been harassed since her husband started attending prayers at a nearby nursing facility around the High Holidays in the fall. She said he believed prayers were too long in the main synagogue.


Their 15-year-old daughter was soon kicked out of school, she said, and their home and car windows were smashed. A week before the attack, an anonymous phone caller said their house "won't be worth a penny," she said.


Calls to the police went nowhere."It sounded like this was acceptable, to police, to everyone," she said.
Rottenberg's civil rights were violated in an ongoing campaign that culminated in the attempted murder of his entire family and himself.


Ramapo police and the Ramapo government appear to have been complicit in this and, at the very least, their indefensible inaction allowed the hatred of Rottenberg to grow and fester, and made the hate crime against him and his family possible.


The crimes against the Rottenbergs cry out for federal investigation.


The federal government should immediately launch an investigation of Ramapo's police and government.

But Pinches Dirnfeld is also right.

The Rebbe of Skvere knew about the violent and harrassing acts leading up to this week's attempted arson and murder. Yet he never condemned that violence and harrassment. Indeed, his rabbinic court sent out notices ordering residents to harrass the Rottenbergs.

And then early Sunday morning the Rebbe's personal butler donned a mask and (according to some, with several other men) went to the Rottenberg's house and tried to burn it down while the family slept.

But because of the family's vigilance and Aron Rottenberg's bravery, the house and Rottenberg's family were spared.

Rottenberg now fights for his life in a hospital.



His attacker, the Rebbe's butler, Shaul Spitzer, is recovering from less serious injuries and is free on $300,000 bond. Many believe he will flee the country as soon as he is well enough to travel, and that Skvere and its Rebbe will help him.

Congress raves over Israeli prime minister! But Anti- Israel Orthodox Rabbis & the Arab World Condemn him



The United States Congress gave the Prime Minister a standing ovation and loved every single word he said, but our own Jews will make a sick and ridcules statement at a time when the Jewish people need all the praise they can get.. instead of keeping their mouths shut, they continue to shame all of us with their stupid remarks.
Here first read from the Washington Times:
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu received a rapturous reception worthy of a rock star from lawmakers on both sides of the political aisle on Capitol Hill on Tuesday - a stark contrast to last week’s tense White House visit.

His speech to a joint session of 
Congress was repeatedly punctuated by sustained applause, laughter and more than two dozen standing ovations. It also received some high praise from bipartisan admirers.

“For someone who has listened to a lot of speeches I have to say you’ve made the all-star team,” Senate Majority Leader 
Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, told Mr. Netanyahu at a press conference afterward.





Once again, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has angered American Orthodox Jews by drawing on Biblical themes to support his Zionist ideology, and by blurring the boundaries between the Jewish people and the Zionist state.

In front of the oval office on Friday, he said to President Obama, “It’s the ancient nation of Israel. And, you know, we've been around for almost 4,000 years. We've experienced struggle and suffering like no other people. We've gone through expulsions and pogroms and massacres and the murder of millions. But I can say that even at the nadir of the valley of death, we never lost hope and we never lost our dream of reestablishing a sovereign state in our ancient homeland, the land of Israel.”

We, as Torah Jews, object strongly to Netanyahu’s identification of his modern Zionist nation with the Jewish people. The true Jewish people has been around for almost 4,000 years and has never lost hope – but that hope was never the hope of reestablishing a sovereign state on our own as the Zionist movement has done. Indeed, religious Jews throughout the ages never even considered such an option, since it is forbidden by the Torah. Our hope was and is only for G-d’s final redemption with the coming of the messiah.

Netanyahu further stated, “A peace based on illusions will crash eventually on the rocks of Middle Eastern reality…the only peace that will endure is one that is based on reality, on unshakeable facts.” Actually, the entire Zionist project is based on illusions and was doomed to failure from day one. Over a hundred years ago, when Herzl convened the first Zionist congress, the greatest rabbis warned that his plans would only bring danger and destruction for the Jewish people.

Netanyahu went so far as to openly deny the Jewish people’s age-old hope when he said regarding the peace process, “We don't have a lot of margin for error…Mr. President, history will not give the Jewish people another chance.” To his heretical mind, the false Zionist redemption is the only redemption the Jewish people will ever have.

In a speech to Congress on Tuesday, he said, “I recognize that in a genuine peace, we will be required to give up parts of the Jewish homeland. In Judea and Samaria, the Jewish people are not foreign occupiers…This is the land of our forefathers, the Land of Israel, to which Abraham brought the idea of one God, where David set out to confront Goliath, and where Isaiah saw a vision of eternal peace. No distortion of history can deny the four thousand year old bond between the Jewish people and the Jewish land.” 

ronically, this statement itself is the real distortion of history. Netanyahu has conveniently skipped the millennia of exile that separate Abraham, David and Isaiah from the present day. He denies the fundamental Jewish belief that our exile was a Heavenly decree, which will end with the final redemption of the world, when there will be peace among all of humanity. During exile, Jews may live all over the world, including the Holy Land, but only without Jewish sovereignty.

“Netanyahu does not trust in G-d; he uses G-d for his agenda,” said Rabbi Leopold Klein, a spokesman for True Torah Jews. “He doesn’t believe in the Torah or the Prophets either. He takes all that is holy to us and uses it whenever it’s convenient for him.

“As American Jews, we declare that the State of Israel cannot – and should not – claim to represent worldwide Jewry, nor should it be identified as a Jewish State, because confusion between Judaism and Zionism jeopardizes the safety of Jews living all over the world,” Rabbi Klein concluded.


Wednesday, May 25, 2011

This Cartoon Sums Up the Entire Controversy Between Obama & Netanyahu


Picture of Netanyahu & Obama in their 20's


Bibi Netanyahu (on left) Barack Hussain Obama (on right)


While Bibi was fighting for his life and the life of Israel  “BS Barry” was smoking!
It is really true that a picture says a thousand words.

Sunday, May 22, 2011

Yeshiva Boy in New Square attempts to burn down house with family sleeping inside



Reports are still very vague and sketchy,but reports are coming in that a young yesivah boy of New Square attempted to burn down a house in New Square this morning. There were 4 people sleeping in the house. The owner of the house refuses to pray in New Square and prays in Friedwald, a nursing home outside the community. This was done to teach him a lesson.The victim Chaim Aaron Rottenberg had to be hospitilized with 3rd degree burns.There is confidential information that the surveillance video tapes were handed over to the Chassidishe Sheriff Koenig, if that's in fact true, then according to people close to the investigation those tapes "may very well disappear."


Chaim Aaron Rottenberg in burn unit

Here read report from The Journal News:







A Truman Avenue man suffered severe body burns early this morning when he fought off a village resident armed with a incendiary device during a fight over a simmering religious controversy, Ramapo police said.
Ramapo police said they later arrested 18-year-old Shaul Spitzer of Adams Lane on felony charges. He had serious burns to his hands and arms and has been hospitalized, police said.
The victim, 43, whose name is being withheld by the Journal-News, suffered burns to 50 percent of his body and remains hospitalized.
Police charged Spitzer with felony counts of first-degree attempted arson and first-degree assault, police said.
Other charges are possible, including attempted murder or possibly murder if the victim dies at Westchester Medical Center in Valhalla, police said.
Police said they are aware that the Truman Avenue family had been targeted before with violence and protests by religious zealots because the victim prayed outside the community's main synagogue used by the Skver Hasidic grand rabbi, the worldwide community's dynastic leader.
Police investigators said today that they have no evidence of any connection between today's attack at 4:12 a.m. and past incidents gainst the family and other dissidents in the community. The vacant upper floor of a Bush Lane house caught fire recently where another dissident family lived.
"I know there is a history there and we're aware of problems within the community," Ramapo Police Detective Lt. Mark Emma said today. "We have no evidence there is a connection. We're still investigating."
The Truman Avenue family installed surveillance cameras because of previous incidents at the house.
Just after 4 a.m. today, a young man living in the Truman Avenue house woke up his father after hearing people out on the porch, police said. Four people were in the house.
The family members began watching a security camera monitor when they saw a man later identified as Spitzer throw something onto their rear deck, Emma said.
Emma said the item turned out to be a rag soaked in flammable liquid.
The father and a son went outside, where the father confronted Spitzer, Emma said.
"Somehow — we're not sure yet — the victim's clothes caught on fire," Emma said. "He has severe burns to his face, arms, and chest."
The victim's son rolled his father on the ground to put out the flames, Emma said.
"The suspect fled the scene, but we were able to track him down" at 8:30 a.m., Emma said.
Rockland Paramedics Inc. and police found the victim sitting on the front steps of his house.
The suspect was taken to Nyack Hospital for the burns and later transferred to Cornell Medical Center in New York City, Emma said.
Ramapo police were later assisted by the Rockland Sheriff's Office Bureau of Criminal Investigation fie unit and the Rockland County Computer Crimes Unit.

Friday, May 20, 2011

Hillary Clinton's Friends, Syria, Shooting at Ambulances!

Read how Hillary Praised Assad

and read this
National Post
and read about Hillary's love affar with the thug, Assad
 http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/love-affair-assad.php

Now see this graphic video

A lesson from Islam: How To Beat Your Wife

Obama Throws Israel Under the Bus




Obama Tells Israel To Commit Suicide "Go back to '67 Borders"

Netanyahu: 1967 Borders Can't Be Defended









Obama endorsed the Palestinian position on the borders of their future state, saying it should be based on Israel's lines before the 1967 Mideast war. Israel captured the West Bank, east Jerusalem and Gaza Strip in the fighting, and the Palestinians claim those areas for their state.
His position appeared to put him at odds with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has not accepted the concept.

Reacting to Obama's speech, Benjamin Netanyahu rejected a full withdrawal from the West Bank, saying the 1967 lines were "indefensible" and would leave major Jewish settlements outside Israel. Netanyahu rejects any pullout from east Jerusalem.
Netanyahu heads to the White House on Friday and said he would seek clarifications.

Obama 'threw Israel under the bus'

Republicans looking to unseat President Barack Obama charged Thursday that he undermined the sensitive and delicate negotiations for Middle East peace with his outline for resumed talks between Israelis and Palestinians.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said Obama "threw Israel under the bus" and handed the Palestinians a victory even before negotiations between the parties could resume.
 Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich called it "the most dangerous speech ever made by an American president for the survival of Israel."

Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, a tea party favorite who is leaning toward a run, called the border suggestions "a shocking display of betrayal" to Israel.
"Today President Barack Obama has again indicated that his policy towards Israel is to blame Israel first," she said in a statement.

On Twitter, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin didn't directly address the speech but urged Obama to publicly welcome Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu instead of ushering him into private meetings away from reporters, as has occurred on Netanyahu's previous visits. The two leaders will talk Friday at the White House.
"Dear Mr. President, please allow our ally, PM Netanyahu, to respectfully arrive through the front door this time. Thanks, Concerned Americans," she tweeted.

Knesset Member: Obama is the new Arafat

Jewish Donors Warn Obama on Israel
Read: Wall Street Journal
Now take 5 minutes and watch this!
Israel Critical Needs For Security HD Animation


Mordechai Tendler Paid One of His Victims Not To Talk

In Tendler's "Affidavit in Opposition to Motion to Quash," Tendler submits on public record, Exhibit R, minutes of a KNH (Kehillat New Hempstead) meeting, that clearly indicates that he paid off one of his victims. The victim's lawyer apparently was Don Bertolini. The agreement between Tendler and the Victim was that in exchange for money, there would be a "gag order."
I wonder why?


Also in the same Exhibit, one learns that Michelle Tendler sent a book about Loshon Horah to two former supporters (who after learning about Tendler's philandering stopped supporting him). In this book is a story about a girl who spoke Loshon Horah and came down with cancer!
Hey, Michelle, can you explain all the sick people in Sloan Kettering? Did they all talk Loshon Horah? How about the sick babies?


What is it with these Tendlers that they curse and wish everyone cancer?
 Yael Tendler (the "nice one"), Yaakov Tendler's wife, once accosted a lady in Shoprite in Suffern, whose husband she mistakingly thought was blogging about Mordechai, and cursed her. Very nice Yael, I thought you were a nurse who swore to help people?  (This story also appears in Tendler's affidavit) Yael (the nice one) never apologized, and the lady will never ever forgive her.




In the same exhibit is a report from a neighbor of one of Tendler's victims reporting that she saw Tendler's car "frequently parked during the day at _ _ _ _ _'s house."
Hellowwwww! You still wonder why nobody wants to hire you as a Rabbi? We don't!


It turns out that there is a wealth of information in this affidavit, that Tendler himself submitted, that most of the bloggers had absolutely no knowledge of. In fact one can even see the victim's name in the minutes.
All this from Tendler himself. He then has the unmitigated chutzpah to go around crying that he can't get a job. Who wants a Rabbi whose wife wishes cancer on members of their very own congregation?


Click here to see the Affidavit in our previous post

Thursday, May 19, 2011

World Will End This Saturday May 21 according to Christian Radio Group


Christian group predicts 'terrific earthquake' on Judgment Day

Say goodbye to your loved ones, repent your sins and enjoy your last few days on earth because, if a US Christian group is to be believed, the world will end this Saturday.



Dus Iz Nies still plans to report on May 22, 2011 with G-D's help.

Wednesday, May 18, 2011

Incredible 3D Art!


The 3D street painting "Crevasse" by artist Edgar Muller is seen during the "Festival of culture" from August 21-24, 2008 in Dun Laoghaire, Ireland. Edgar Muller put a part of the eastern Pier into the ice age. (Edgar Muller/Getty Images)

The 3D street painting "Turning Riverstreet into a river" by artist Edgar Muller is seen in this undated picture. "Turning Riverstreet into a river" is the largest 3d-street-painting ever done. (Edgar Muller/Getty Images)

"Illusionary city" in Berlin, Germany by Edgar Muller (RexUSA)

A passerby checks out "Duality" 3D street painting by Edgar Muller in Moscow, Russia, Aug. 8, 2010. (RexUSA)

Island East advertisement in Hong Kong painted by Edgar Muller (Edgar Muller/Manfred Stader/RexUSA)

on  the occasion of the 30th anniversary of the international competition of street painters in Geldern, Germany, Edgar Muller has painted a large sized, three-dimensional picture of apocalyptic scenery. (RexUSA)

Shark street art in Hong Kong painted by street artist Edgar Muller. (Edgar Muller/Manfred Stader/RexUSA)

Antisemitic Cartoon on Iran's State-Sponsored TV


Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Arab lady wants all Jews massacred, her own father murdered Jews in Hebron in 1929


Israel is Fighting for its very existence, yet these bastards hug the Hitler of the Middle East

Canadian Rabbi Yeshaye Rosenberg (R) smiles at Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad during a meeting with guests of the International Conference on Global Alliance Against Terrorism, in Tehran May 15, 2011. REUTERS/Raheb Homavandi

U.S. Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, of the organisation Jews United Against Zionism (front L), speaks with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad during a meeting with guests of the International Conference on Global Alliance Against Terrorism, in Tehran May 15, 2011.  REUTERS/Raheb Homavand


U.S. Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss (R), of the organisation Jews United Against Zionism, speaks during a meeting with guests of the International conference on Global Alliance against Terrorism, as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (L) listens in Tehran May 15, 2011. REUTERS/Raheb Homavandi
U.S. Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, of the organisation Jews United Against Zionism (front L), speaks with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad during a meeting with guests of the International Conference on Global Alliance Against Terrorism, in Tehran May 15, 2011.  REUTERS/Raheb Homavand

Monday, May 16, 2011

Thousands of Arabs From Syria, Lebanon & Gaza Marching to Israel's Boders


Israeli soldiers defending the borders


 Mobilized by calls on Facebook, thousands of Arab protesters marched on Israel’s borders with Syria, Lebanon and Gaza on Sunday in an unprecedented wave of demonstrations, sparking clashes that left at least 15 people dead in an annual Palestinian mourning ritual marking the anniversary of Israel’s birth.

In a surprising turn of events, hundreds of Palestinians and supporters poured across the Syrian frontier and staged riots, drawing Israeli accusations that Damascus, and its ally Iran, orchestrated the unrest to shift attention from an uprising back home. It was a rare incursion from the usually tightly controlled Syrian side and could upset the delicate balance between the two longtime foes.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who heads to Washington at the end of the week, said he ordered the military to act with “maximum restraint” but vowed a tough response to further provocations.
“Nobody should be mistaken. We are determined to defend our borders and sovereignty,” he declared in a brief address broadcast live on Israeli TV stations.
President Barack Obama’s envoy to the region, George Mitchell, resigned Friday after more than two years of fruitless efforts. The U.S. president may now have to retool the administration’s approach to peacemaking. Obama is expected to deliver a Mideast policy speech in the coming week.
Deadly clashes also took place along Israel’s nearby northern border with Lebanon, as well as in the Gaza Strip on Israel’s southern flank. The Israeli military said 13 soldiers were wounded, none seriously.
Sunday’s unrest — which came after activists used Facebook and other websites to mobilize Palestinians and their supporters in neighboring countries to march on the border with Israel — marked the first time the protests that have swept the Arab world in recent months have been directed at Israel.

Sunday, May 15, 2011

Iran Executes A Jewish Woman and Her Husband, UPDATED!!!



JTA Reports that A Jewish woman and her Armenian Christian husband were executed in Iran for undisclosed reasons, a top State Department official said.
Michael Posner, the assistant secretary of state for human rights, testified Wednesday at a U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Iran's human rights.
Posner said human rights in the Islamic Republic had deteriorated in the first part of 2011. He listed as examples mass executions; the killing of protesters in Tehran and among ethnic Arabs; harsh prison sentences for Baha'i leaders; tough prison conditions for political detainees; and that "a Jewish woman and her Armenian-Christian husband were reportedly executed based on undisclosed charges."
He did not name the couple.

Update May 15, 2011



WASHINGTON (JTA) – The Israeli-born Jewish woman and her Armenian Christian husband reportedly executed in Iran have been identified.
The Iranian human rights group, Human Rights Activists News Agency reported  that Adiva Mirza Soleyman Kalimia and Varjan Petrosian were hanged on March 14 at Evin Prison, a facility for political prisoners in northwest Iran. It identified Soleyman as Jewish and Petrosian as Armenian.
The agency quoted a Revolutionary Court as confirming the executions, along with those of three others who were unidentified. It said relatives of the dead who tried to recover the bodies for ritual burial were threatened with arrest.
The official cause of Soleyman Kalimia's arrest reportedly was adultery.
Soleyman Kalimia was born in Jerusalem in 1956 to an Iranian-Jewish family, according to reports. She was also a United States citizen, after residing in Miami for several years. She visited Iran three times in recent years before being arrested and put in prison.
Michael Posner, the assistant secretary of state for human rights, had not named the couple when he testified Wednesday at a U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Iran's human rights that a Jewish woman and her Armenian Christian husband had been executed in Iran for undisclosed reasons.
Posner said human rights in the Islamic Republic had deteriorated in the first part of 2011. He listed as examples mass executions; the killing of protesters in Tehran and among ethnic Arabs; harsh prison sentences for Baha'i leaders; tough prison conditions for political detainees; and that "a Jewish woman and her Armenian-Christian husband were reportedly executed based on undisclosed charges."

Wonder of G-D, Ants Form Raft to Save Themselves From Flood

Unbelievable! Scientists cannot explain it.

phenonamim

Neturei Karta Rabbis Desecrate Shabbos in Iran!


US Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, of the organization Jews United Against Zionism, also known as Naturei Karta, along with Canadian Rabbi Yeshaye Rosenberg attended an International conference on Global Alliance against Terrorism for a Just Peace in Tehran on Shabbos.

Weiss and Rosenberg spoke with clerics and other Iranian officials during the conference. The rabbis attended the conference, despite it taking place on Shabbos. 

See these disgusting pictures of these lunatic Rabbis kissing the butt of those Jew hating Muslim clerics.





Mordechai Tendler Getting More Bizzare and Odd!


Mordechai Tendler who issued a subpoena to Google to identify the bloggers is getting crazier by the minute.
The bloggers filed a motion to "Quash the Subpoena," so Tendler filed a "Memorandum of Law in Opposition to the Motion to Quash the Subpoena." Thats all fine and good.
But what is bizzare is that Tendler submitted exhibits to support his position that is so much more damaging to him and his reputation then any blogger ever was to him. He now put on the record information that even the bloggers didn't know. 
Download and read what Tendler writes in his own words, notice that nowhere in his 295 page motion, does he deny sleeping with any of the women that he was accused of. He couldn't deny that because that would be perjury, once the truth comes out in trial.
Download:
Tendler Opposition to Quash
Download:
tendler-affidavit-in-opposition-to-motion_quash_google-subpoena-with-exhibits-051211.pdf

Thursday, May 12, 2011

Dee Zeitung, the yiddish newspaper spews hate against the State of Israel!

The cartoon in Der Sturmer shows a photograph of a Jew captioned “Satan.”
Dee Zeitung also call Zionists "Satan"

I thought I was reading the Nazi Newspaper "Der Sturmer,"but soon realized that  I was actually reading this week's issue of Dee Zeitung, the newspaper now in the news for doctoring and erasing Hillary Clinton from a White House photo.
On page 30 of this issue, the Yiddish newspaper writes and reports about the huge protest that took place in Williamsburg in the Bais Hamidrash Hagodol of Congregation Yetev Lev of Satmar on the 5th day of the Jewish month Iyur, Yom Haatzmoat (Israel's day of Independence)!
This article quoted words of venom and hate from speakers that cursed not only the State of Israel but  other "Chassidishe" Rabbis that are not on the "same page" with these Rabbis of Satmar.

I will glean and losely translate some relevant and pertinent lines from the article.

"It is already 63 years since that bitter day "Hey Iyur (5 day of the month of Iyur) when that heretic government of the Zionist nation announced their Independence, and with that proclamation claimed that it was with their own strength that this Independence came about, and thereby mocked the concept and notion  of the "Golus Yid"(the jew in exile) . By declaring a State they violated the "Three Oaths" that G-D swore upon Jews in exile. This past Sunday a packed crowd gathered in the Bais Midrash Hagodol in Williamsburg to lament and mourn that bitter disaster; the establishment of the State etc."

They then quote from Rabbi Moshe Kliars, "Chief of the Bais Din" of Tveriah. (BTW, Dee Zeitung gave him that title, my relatives who live in Tveriah, never heard of him).
This Rabbi mocks and derides other great Rabbis that don't agree with his idea.
"To those (Rabbis not from Satmar) that call the establishment of the State "Aschalta DeGeulah" (the beginning of the redemption) I say that this no beginning of redemption but it is certainly the beginning of the birth pangs of the Messiah."
"The main and real problem is actually from the orthodox camp that light the fire of heresy. Even though  the Zionist themselves cooled off from their Zionist passion, it is actually the religious circles and their leaders that continue to instigate the nations."
Rabbi Menashe derided those who patronize the Zionists, and travel to Israel when travel to Israel was never on any bodies mind."

Dus Iz Nies:
I would like to know how many secular Jews ever became religious because of these protests?
How many secular Jews ever said .... "Oh! They are cursing the State of Israel, I will now come closer to G-D?"
Greater Rabbis than those who attended that shameful protest addressed whether the creation of the State of Israel violated the "3 Oaths" and ruled that it certainly did not (I will address that issue in an other posting). 
How about the Halacha of not speaking Loshon Horah on the State of Israel... the Original Spies during the times of Moshe Rabeinu spoke Loshon Horah about the very evil nation, the Nation of Caanan and because of that incident the Jewish people had to wander in the dessert for an additional 40 years, and we are now in exile because of that incident, and yet the Yiddish Newspapers catering to the Chassidic communities, Dee Zeitung, Der Yid and Der Blatt curse and spew hatred on a weekly basis against their own brothers and sisters, and then they wonder why the Messiah has yet to come!