Donald Trump calls her the “Ice Maiden.” But in person, the very private White House chief of staff, Susie Wiles, is warm and hospitable — as long as you don’t cross her. She didn’t become the most powerful woman in the world without a determined glint in her eye that can silence the most spirited Cabinet minister.
Wiles, 68, has brought a sense of order and calm to Trump’s second presidency, which has given him the space to notch up wins at breakneck speed.
In a rare interview on our new podcast “Pod Force One” she explained how she does it.
“I gave a piece of advice to myself when I started this job,” she told us this week in her large sunny office in the West Wing, down the hall from the Oval Office.
“I am the chief of staff. I’m not the chief of Donald Trump.”


