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Thursday, May 15, 2025

Was Reb Shimon ben Yochai's Yurzeit on Lag Be'omer? Is he even Buried in Meron???


  21 facts (and/or fiction) about Lag Baomer 

by EMAILIM BATORAH


1) According to ר' מנחם החברוני (13th century)
רשב"י is buried in Kfar Chananya (15 km. south of Meron)

2) According to the חיד"א, there is no מקור anywhere
that רשב"י was niftar on Lag Baomer

3) The first mention of רשב"י Yahrzeit on ל:ג בעומר is the
controversial ספר חמדת הימים

4) According to the יעב"ץ, (The Chasam Sofer seems
to agree)  R. Moishe d'Leon (not רשב"י), wrote
the זהר

5) According to many Poskim, the תלמידי ר' עקיבא still died on
ל"ג בעומר but stopped on the 34th day of the עומר.

6)  The מדרש says it was only 300 Talmidim who died.
The גמרא (Yevamos 62) says 12,000 pairs of Talmidim died.

7) The גמרא says they all died of a disease called אסכרה.
 According to Harav Hagaon Y. Henkin zt"l and others, the
גמרא uses אסכרה as a code for getting killed fighting
the Romans.

8) The שואל ומשיב  5 - 39  writes, "If you distribute the  money
to עניי ארץ ישראל instead of spending it to go to his
 קבר etc., he guarantees רשב"י will have  much more
נחת רוח.

9) According to the Chasam Sofer,ל"ג בעומר celebration
has nothing to do with רשב"י 

10) According to the Chasam Sofer, the only ל"ג בעומר
celebration is קצת שמחה of not saying תחנון

11) According to the   מנחת אלעזר ח"ד:ס.the ל"ג בעומר
celebration is strictly a מנהג ארץ ישראל Celebrating
in חוץ לארץ is onsidered strange & haughty כזרות יחשב וכיוהרא 

12) When the מנחת אלעזר was in Eretz Yisrael during ל"ג בעומר
he spent the night in צפת, not willing to celebrate in Meron
together with the Zionists.            

13) The תוספתא (Shabbos 7:1) says clapping hands or 
dancing in front of a fire is אסור because of דרכי אמורי. 

14) In the ספרים of the previous generations, they only
mention of מרבים בנרות (festive) and not the הדלקה

15)  Years ago, they had women dancing in Meron
on Lag Baomer לכבוד התנא רשב"י

16) Originally, the pilgrimage to Meron for the first
350 years was done on פסח שני and not on ל"ג בעומר 

17) Originally, the celebration was held at the cave of
בית שמאי & בית הלל at a later date it was changed to רשב"י 

18) Originally, it was only Muslim women who burned
their clothes לכבוד רשב"י.
The Yidden later adopted this controversial Minhag.

19) It's not the lighting of the fire that's done לכבוד רשב"י
It's the burning of the expensive clothes that is done
לכבוד רשב"י 

20)  The Chasam Sofer in the פתיחה to סדר נזיקין writes,
the Yeshiva started learning מס' בבא קמא on Lag Baomer.
גל עיני ואביטה נפלאות מתורתך stands for the 3 בבות & their 30 פרקים 

21) Rav Elyashiv Zt"l said that דעת תורה is not to travel
to Meron on ל"ג בעומר

14 comments:

HADLUKEH uber alles said...

The Lag Baoimer HADLUKEH is yesoid hayesoidois of Hasides. You know how many yeshies you can get there? Everyone must rush to Meron to chap yeshies for themselves, their mishpuches, gantz Klal Yisruel. It is kimat on the same level as Kerestir by Reb Shayale. Get on a bus and go, chap arein, how far is it anyway from Bays Shemesh to Meron? So what if you will be like a sardine for a while, you see Reb Mylich Biderman dancing and making a hadlukeh, you know how many yeshies you can get from Reb Mylech and Rebbe Shimon? So many that you can even skip your trip to Kerestir next year. HADLUKEH HADLUKEH HADLUKEH. YESHIES YESHIES YESHIES. And don't forget to Chai Rutel mashkeh, vichul hamarbeh haray za meshibuch, make Lag Baoimer like Peerim and Paysach sayder together.

Dusiznies said...

Hadlukeh
This "yesoid hayesoidois" couldn't help the 45 innocent neshamois in Meron just two years ago!
I say go to the Kotel, where Hashem is waiting...don't abandon Him for some made up minhag!

Genig shoyn said...

What are you going to say next? That the Crown Heights Rebbuh is not Meshiach? That people shouldn't go to his crypt? That people shouldn't go to Uman? That Kerestir is not the place for yeshies? Chevreh, Anshay Shloymayni, stay away from this site and its dangerous ideas, you might be driven to think for a change.

Anonymous said...

Come on people need an exciting change of scenery
Better than NHL or NBA playoffs

Anonymous said...

You’re a riot 🤣

Who do you think you are??? said...

Are you a bar pligta of Reb Gamliel Rabinovitch who wrote that going to Meron is like aliyah liregel???

Garnel Ironheart said...

I'll burst another bubble for you. Rachel Imeinu isn't buried in Kever Rachel.

Dusiznies said...

Who
I'm surprised that he said that, because that goes against the entire Tanach! Yerovam ben Navot tried that, he didn't allow his citizens to be Olaeh Regel instead he made his own Mikdash!
Klall Yisrael was ready to go to war against BneiGad and Bnei Reuvan when they mistakenly thought that the Mizbaach that Gad and Reuvein built was to replace the one in Shilo, that is in Chapter 22 in Yehoshua!
We have a Kotel, and that is the only place one goes to be Olaeh Regel, not Miron!

טיב מירון said...

I believe Reb Gamliel says that in his sefer טיב מירון. I guess DIN is not a "Kabbalist", just a guy who tries to have some seichel, שכל הישר.

Anonymous said...

Really now?
Where is she buried?
I guess the avos aren't in Chevron either?
Please tell us where they are for real!

Anonymous said...

Yes she is. Ramban after making aliya writes she is. When in Spain he thought not but changed his mind when he visited Chevvron.

Anonymous said...

Kosel!? That's the outer wall

Dusiznies said...

5:32
When was the last time you were in Meron, all the walls there are "outer walls"
מעולם לא זזה השכינה מכותל המערבי

Anonymous said...

Or neither