Thursday, October 14, 2021

"Chassidim on a Plane"


For Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur I had to be in the US, so I flew to the US a week before R"H and returned Monday Erev Succos.

Because of the tight schedule, I needed to fly direct and the timing had to be so so; so I flew Delta which accommodated my needs.

On the way back, the entire plane was Chareidie, specifically chassidim. 

During the flight, they got up to make minyanim. I went with the psak of Harav Eliyashiv who suggests you daven in your seat without joining the minyan. 

Suddenly, we hit turbulence, and the crew "begged" everyone to get back into their seats and buckle up. 

You guessed it.... אין קול ואין עונה

They totally ignored the crew and the pilot's warning, and even ignored when the crew got a Hebrew speaking passenger on the speaker system to "beg" them to get back to their seats. 

Mayhem broke out, as the stewardesses couldn't get the food carts back in the galley fast enough, since  the "daveners" were in the aisle refusing to move. Food and drinks were flying over the entire aisles and seats but the "Daveners" refused to budge.

Finally the pilot started to itemize the numbers of all the empty seats, and announced that those who bought those seats will be forever banned from flying Delta again.

When they heard that in English (suddenly they didn't need any translators) they abandoned G-d, and ran to their seats. 

Why am I writing this now?

I mentioned this story to a neighbor of mine and he said  that the  blog called "Rationalist Judaism" has horror stories of "Chassidim on a Plane"

and so I am copying a letter from one of his readers who describes her experience ..

I just flew to and from Israel... and I have never been more mortified to be Orthodox. The plane was trashed. The bathrooms wrecked. A flight attendant remarked that this route is always left this way, while after 15 hours to Japan, the plane is left spotless. Men crowded the aisles and blocked the passageways, forming a minyan even while being explicitly told that they could not do so A- because the seat belt sign was on and B- because of the pandemic. While attendants were buckled in because of turbulence, stopped food service because of turbulence, men were up and putting on tefillin even while flight attendants and the captain himself begged them to sit down and buckle up. They could not have cared less. It was as if they were deaf or above the rules or both. 

To describe myself as shocked is an understatement. It got to the point that I asked them who they were even praying to, who would possibly listen to their tefilot when they were causing us such humiliation and chillul Hashem. I don't know who to turn to to speak about this and I do not want to trash an entire community. But this was so so bad that if I myself was feeling such anger and animosity and close to posting videos I can't think that someone actually doing this who is not Orthodox is far off. In all seriousness, rabbis and Leadership needs to address this. If anyone has ideas as to who to turn to, please let me know.


Heimishe Alien said...

You can't make this up!

How many heimishe are in KJ, Monsey, Willy, who are illegal immigrants from places like Israel or Stamford Hill?

You know that NY fund to pay billions to illegal immigrants who don't have documentation for the Federal pandemic relief payments?

The website where Cuomo & now Hochul tell the Spics how to get the free money also has a version for Yiddish speakers!

When those letzonim "Cheech & Chong" sang "It's no fun being an illegal alien", they didn't know what the heck they were saying!

(I can see DIN laughing over in Beit Shemesh that he's no longer one of the sucker taxpayers being soaked)

Litvak said...

It is about time that the whole world realize once and for all that Neturei Karta, Satmar, Ger, Belz and all other similar guru centered lunatic communities are not Judaism!

They are mindless cults that idolize ignorance and stupidity!

Their ignorance extends to Jewish subjects as well and it is abysmal. They do not understand Halacha (Minha 20 min after the shkia!) do not know Tanach, pray in pidgin Hebrew and have no knowledge of the language.

What these psychopaths are practicing is not Judaism--it is a perpetual costume carnival cum mafia!

It is no wonder that they always turn up in the middle of hillul hashem scandals -- they have no real Torah.

I really pity their children who are deprived of both worlds.

As far as their leaders are concerned, I will grant them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are mentally unbalanced, and not something worse.

A very orthodox litvak

Anonymous said...

Din stop spreading hate not all chassidim make minyanim on planes etc. I have seen enough litvaks making minyanim and making a chillul hashem. Its not a rule across the board you have ppl on both sides of the spectrum most make a kuddush hashem and some dont, but pls dont go ranting on chassidim because you dont like them

Shaman said...

Litvak, it stinks from the top getchke's (shamans). Malkiel Kotler in Ocean County NJ is not much better head mafia than the other 3 NY getchkes (shamans)

2 Teitelbaum brothers in Orange and Kings County's, NY
Yisroel Hager in Rockland County, NY

Dusiznies said...

Anonymous 11:31
stop reading the blog, it seems you don't understand any of the posts ... this is not for you ...go read Playboy

Mistaken Identity said...

They are not Hasidics, they are angels flying the heavens. ;-)

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