This story is deeply disturbing.
A father whose 14‑year‑old son was killed at a protest told reporters that if the choice were “either my son enlists or dies, I would choose he dies.”
That kind of statement is shocking. It echoes the kind of rhetoric we usually associate with extremist movements like Hamas and Hezbollah, that glorify martyrdom, not with parents grieving a child.
Is this really where parts of the Charedi world have arrived? I always assumed the slogan “We would rather die than enlist” was hyperbole — a dramatic way of expressing opposition. But hearing a bereaved parent say he would literally prefer his child’s death over enlistment raises serious questions about how far this mindset has gone.
It’s one thing to reject army service for oneself. It’s another to speak as though children’s lives are expendable for the sake of ideology. That shift — from personal conviction to treating one’s own children as symbolic offerings — is profoundly troubling. What is interesting is that they are not saying THEY want to die, they want their children to die!
Very depraved!
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What the tatten of course means is he was fort niftar with his ruchniyus being eroded which is what Tzahal does. There were examples of this in the alter Heim if a yingel was niftar before being forced to be a Cantonist. But none of this this computes in the kefira infested mind of DIN
Family services, should immediately take away all his kids.
This criminally insane depraved monster is a danger to the rest of his children.
He should be locked up in a mental asylum for the criminally insane.
Your crazed comment is exactly what I'm talking about! Thank you!
Are you comparing the Cantonists with the IDF which protects Klall Yisrael??
Are you insane?
I live in Beit Shemesh almost 9 years, I live with hundreds of IDF Soldiers not once did I hear from any family member that any of the enlisted went off the derech! Not one!
Charedie Fathers are now officially with the same mindset of mothers of Hamas and Hezbollah!
What Kefira? You upgerissinar fool!
In a civilized country, Child Services would be at his door and his kids would all be put in foster care.
There are thousands of parents who have children that went off the Derech Not a single one of them is wishing that their children should drop dead. The ones who shout NAMUT V'LO NUTGAYES are a bunch of LIARS
Completely agree
Anything goes it’s called brainwash
DIN knows every "psak" that the Torah doesn't know about. Where's the heter to save lives when you have to have IDF's meissis eemeidiach tumah forced on you that causes many to stop being shoimer Torah eemitzvos?
I agree that getting drafted into the IDF is not at all ideal for a Haredi, but it is not an absolute that one must transgress the Torah if he were in that position. The Steipler was in the Russian army in his youth and although it was very very difficult nobody went around advocating to die rather than be in that situation.
Sheretz Gadol 8:12
Where is the heter?
Your very own gedoilim! Rav Shach and Rav Shteinman just to mention two!
Are you saying that these "gedoilim" knew a "psak" that the Torah didn't know about?
With your logic that:
" tumah forced on you that causes many to stop being shoimer Torah eemitzvos"
than people should stop being Satmar and following the Ahrelich, because tens of thousands of them are going off the derech!
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