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Thursday, January 22, 2026

Chardeie Gedoilim Heard in Secret Recordings "we will continue to take benefits and money from Government but no one will serve!"


We all know that Arab leaders say one thing in public and say another thing, totally contradicting themselves in private. In fact Muslims have a word for lying for the sake of the cause called "taqiyya (تقیة)"

But who would have expected this from Talmedei Chachamim and Gedoilei Hador? From people who are "marbitz" Torah?

In public, they are acting like they are capitulating and compromising and promising Netanyahu that they will vote to pass the budget ($$$$$$$) and to pass the conscription law yet in private they mocked the entire process except, of course, the $$$$$$ part! 

What do they expect from the regular "Joe Shmo" if their leaders are deliberately lying!! One wonders if anything they now say is really what they mean??

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 Recordings broadcast Wednesday evening on Channel 12 reveal that senior haredi rabbis backing the passage of a proposed conscription law view it primarily as a delaying measure, with no expectation that it will lead to the enlistment of yeshiva students into the IDF.

In the recordings, Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch says he supports the legislation because it would “buy time" for the haredi community. Asked whether yeshiva students who fall outside existing study frameworks would eventually be required to enlist, he responded unequivocally: “God forbid."

Addressing the enlistment targets included in the proposed law, Rabbi Hirsch dismissed them outright. “Do they think we will want to meet the target? Of course we will not want to," he said, adding that he believes the law will ultimately collapse after a few years. “In the meantime, we gained time," he explained.

Rabbi Hirsch also referred to past attempts to create special enlistment frameworks for haredim under the leadership of the late Rabbi Aharon Leib Shteinman, calling them a mistake. “Our community does not have such compromises," he said.

Another leading figure, Rabbi Dov Lando, was equally blunt, stating that there is no intention to enlist any haredim - including those not studying in yeshivot. “What they are talking about is nonsense - it will not happen. We will not go to the army; no one will go to the army," he said.

The revelations sparked sharp political reactions. Opposition leader Yair Lapid said the recordings prove that “the spiritual leaders of the haredi parties are openly admitting that the draft-evading law is a fraud and that no haredi youth will enlist."

Yisrael Beiteinu chairman Avigdor Liberman echoed that criticism, saying, “The rabbinical council of draft evasion has revealed its true face. It’s all a bluff - no haredi will enlist. We will continue to send our sons and daughters to the army, and they will continue to send theirs to live off the taxes we pay."

Likud MK Dan Illouz called on his coalition colleagues to act, saying, “I once again urge my fellow coalition members to join my demand to amend the law."

The National Religious Reservists Forum also responded forcefully, stating, “It’s time to stop closing our eyes and face reality. The leading haredi authorities are openly admitting they have no intention of meeting enlistment targets and are merely stringing along the public that serves."

11 comments:

DIN leshitusoi said...

When trying to escape from Churban Europa you could not disguise yourself & sneak out. You had to announce yourself as a Yid to the Nazis because that the ehrliche thing to do

Dusiznies said...

You sicko
Are you comparing Jews hunted down like dogs by the Nazis to a Government made of Jews that requires all Jews to participate in the security of its citizens?
Comparing Antisemitic Goyishe Europe that murdered millions of Jews before the Nazis even came to power to the only Jewish country, the home of the majority of the Jewish people? Where one can practice Yiddishkeit and learn Torah in Freedom?
How mentally depraved are these Chardeiem?
How disconnected are they from reality??

And what is amazing that a guy reading this post took time out of his day to post his stupid twisted comment!
How removed from sanity is this fool?

DIN leshitusoi said...

Also leshtissoi

Ohn Toirah the IDF nisht matzliach & the Arabs make another Holocaust. So you go against logic to drag bucherim out of yeshivos

Garnel Ironheart said...

The Chareidim learned from the so-called Palestinians. The more the Arabs lied, the more violent they were, the more the international commuity rushes to reward them. So why shouldn't they adopt the same tactic? Sure we'll sign a deal. Sure we'll make promises. Just give us what you said you would and don't kvetch when we backstab you.
And if you say "But these are Torah Jews(tm)! Isn't honesty an important value? Standing by your word?" I'll reply that there's an old saying in Israel: That's religion but this is business.

Anonymous said...

So, until this recording everyone thought that they were happy with the deal?
They are willing to negotiate, but not happy about their concessions. Sounds pretty standard.

cyrano said...

To be totally fair, Arabs who are Israeli citizens receive more perks than Charedim. They get free education, health care, no job discrimination, and welfare subsidies. True, these Israeli Arabs can trace their presence in the land prior to the establishment of the State of Israel similar to Native Americans who preceded the European colonists who settled what was to become the United States. Therefore, it makes sense that these Arabs owe no allegiance to the State of Israel and ought to be exempt from the draft. On the other hand, the assistance these Arabs receive from the State is by virtue of their citizenship implied by their physical presence in the land at the time of the establishment of the State of Israel.

Likewise, could not the same argument be made on behalf of some Chareidim, at least as so far as those who are descended from the disciples of the Vilna Gaon and the Baal Shem Tov who resided in the land since the early 19th century? Are they less worthy of consideration than Israeli Arabs?

Just thinking out loud……..

Dusiznies said...

2:49
"Ohn Toirah?????"
You farikter Ligner!
There is more Torah in the Zionist State than anywhere in the entire world!
What the hell are you "ploiderinh" about?
We are not "dragging bucherim out of yeshivos" they need to enlist! They can learn Torah and serve!
There are hundreds of thousands learning Torah in Israel without these Bochrim!
When they finish serving they can go back to learn!

Dusiznies said...

No one from the "disciples of the Vilna Gaon and the Baal Shem Tov" are in Israel today, not one!
Talmedei Baal Shem died in an earthquake and in a plague, disciples of the Vilna Gaon died in a plague, there isn't a family in the entire Israel that claims that they are descendants!

Alter Yishuv said...

DIN has completely lost it! Everyone knows there absolutely are talmidei Gr"a eyniklach still around! Cyrano forgot about the talmidei Chasam Sofer who are also still alive & kicking through their descendents

Dusiznies said...

10:14
If I don't know about it then it's no longer "Everyone knows."
and just that you know most liars start their conversation to support their "shittism" with "Everyone knows."

Anonymous said...

Shnorers and chazerim. Snouts in the trough.