“I don’t speak because I have the power to speak; I speak because I don’t have the power to remain silent.” Rav Kook z"l

Thursday, November 13, 2025

Charedim Should be Shamed, not Pressed into Service


by Saul Sadka

A few weeks ago I was sitting around a table here in Tel Aviv with a group of well known locals. We played a game where everyone had to offer an “unpopular opinion.” And I went all out, people actually gasped, so I suppose I won, since I proposed:

 “Haredim should not be forcibly conscripted to the IDF.”

Most Haredim are fascinated by the world beyond their shtetls. They are avid consumers of news and, secretly—though officially non-Zionist for arcane religious reasons—identify with the State of Israel.

Yes, it is unjust and shameful that they refuse to serve in the armed forces alongside their brethren, and they should indeed be shamed and penalized for that. The current official Haredi units are composed mostly of people on the margins of their society, or of those who have all but left it. In their hearts, even if they won’t admit it, most Haredim know that their side was wrong about Zionism and Herzl—and that the leader of the religious Zionists, Rabbi Kook, was correct.

It isn’t me saying that, but one of the most senior rabbis in the Haredi world (whom I won’t name, since it was a private conversation), related to nearly every Lithuanian rabbinic giant of the last generation, told me recently: “Everyone knows Rabbi Kook was correct.”

They cannot admit this to each other, since the core creed of Haredi Judaism is that “Everything new is forbidden.” Hence the clothing choices preserved from whichever era was deemed best for each subgroup: 18th-century garb for the Hasidim, early-20th-century attire for the yeshiva types, and early-1970s shift collars over jacket lapels for the religious Zionists, who still pine for the era when Sinai was Israel.

The thing to know about the Haredim is that they see themselves as the True Jews. Anyone who comes to prick their bubble—for it is a bubble—they have been trained to see as the latest incarnation of the eternal enemy of the True Jews. But more and more, the cognitive dissonance is breaking through. It is the Jihadis who are the true enemy—they know this deep down—and their daily study of ancient texts isn’t actually what protects their families from the Jihadis. It’s the guys and girls with the guns.

If pressed, the Haredim will argue that while all Israel is one nation, they are the soul and the secular are the body. But they’ve actually got it the wrong way round. Studying ancient texts in the same way generation after generation, while not contributing productively or equally bearing the burdens of society, is not “soul.” Their culture and even language increasingly cringe toward mainstream Israeli culture; little that is original emerges from Haredi society.

It is, in fact, the secular who are the soul—who have truly built a new Jew. The Haredim are, accidentally, the body—their profligate birthrate has buried the hopes the local Arabs once had of outnumbering, and thus overcoming, their Jewish neighbors. The secular though they we were body, but turn out to the soul. The Haredi think they are the soul but are actually the body. The message: Don’t force things to hard.

Soft shaming for being “yellow” will have more effect, and with less of the negatively side-effects of any attempt at forced conscription. Israeli politicians should avoid the easy point-scoring they can achieve here and focus instead on the long game.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ah! The Old Sinas Am Ha'aretz is getting stronger.. I know you give a shuir etc etc... Basically you love a Mechalel Shabbos Treif Eating jew (Which I have no problem with) but can't find a good word for Hundreds of Thousands of Lomdei Torah.... We have seen this over and over. Look in your heart. Shut down the blog and serve hashem with love

Dusiznies said...

4:53
Yes I love the Mechallei Shabbos and so does the RBS"O
Let's learn a little Tanach together:
After Eliyahu performed the miracle in front of Ahab and killed the Nevei Ha'Baal, Klall Yisrael all screamed :
" יְהֹוָה֙ ה֣וּא הָאֱלֹהִ֔ים יְהֹוָ֖ה ה֥וּא הָאֱלֹהִֽים׃"

All did teshuvah! It didn't last long!

The very next day Ahab's wife wanted to kill him, and Klall Yisrael went back to be Oveid Avoda Zara!
Note, we are not talking about "mechalleil Shabbos" we are talking about "Oivdei Ovada Zara"!
So Eliyahu gets frustrated and wants Hashem to take his life ,,,he cannot go on!
Hashem asks him: ?מַה־לְּךָ֥ פֹ֖ה אֵלִיָּֽהוּ
"whats up with you?
Eliyahu just like YOU!!!!!!! Bad mouths the Jewish people!

וַיֹּ֩אמֶר֩ קַנֹּ֨א קִנֵּ֜אתִי לַיהֹוָ֣ה ׀ אֱלֹהֵ֣י צְבָא֗וֹת כִּֽי־עָזְב֤וּ בְרִֽיתְךָ֙ בְּנֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל אֶת־מִזְבְּחֹתֶ֣יךָ הָרָ֔סוּ וְאֶת־נְבִיאֶ֖יךָ הָרְג֣וּ בֶחָ֑רֶב וָאִוָּתֵ֤ר אֲנִי֙ לְבַדִּ֔י וַיְבַקְשׁ֥וּ אֶת־נַפְשִׁ֖י לְקַחְתָּֽהּ׃
Eliyahu, being a "Kanaie", talks Loshon Hara on the Jewish people
So who is he talking Losho Hara on?
Oivdei Avoda Zara!

Hashem cannot believe what Eliyahu just said: So He asks again..:מַה־לְּךָ֥ פֹ֖ה אֵלִיָּֽהוּ׃

And Guess what'

Eliyahu gives the exact same answer!!!!
What does Hashem do right after that?
He tells him
וְאֶת־אֱלִישָׁ֤ע בֶּן־שָׁפָט֙ מֵאָבֵ֣ל מְחוֹלָ֔ה תִּמְשַׁ֥ח לְנָבִ֖יא תַּחְתֶּֽיךָ׃
Hashem says "Go anoint another Navie" Elisha!
Hashem doesn't want Kanaim as leaders not then and not ever!
In fact there is a medrish that states that Moshe Rabbeinu really thought that Pinchas was going to be his successor but a Kanai cannot lead, he can be a R"Y in Slobodka but cannot be a leader of Klall Yosrael
What do we see?
We see that HKB"H loves his people no matter that they are Ovdei Avoda Zara no matter that they are Mechallei Shabbos! If Elyahu talks bad about his fellow Jew, he can no longer even be a Navie, so He makes him appoint another Navie!
So yes I love the Zionists !
Let Hashem judge you as you judge others. And be careful, you don't know how your own children will turn out.... the story isn't over!
And that's why they don't teach Tanach in Yeshiva !
We are all Loimdei Torah, there is more Torah in the Zionist State than anywhere in the world and never is there so much Torah learned as in the entire Jewish history!
Those eligible must enlist, they are not holding up the world, the ones holding up the world are those learning Torah, who are not eligible for the IDF!