“I don’t speak because I have the power to speak; I speak because I don’t have the power to remain silent.” Rav Kook z"l
Tuesday, November 11, 2025
Baltimore Bais Din Claims that Tamar (Epstein) Friedman Married Someone else without a Get!
54 comments:
Anonymous
said...
Why did you publish this? There is no background to the ruling. It seems like a tragedy for the family. Why is this newsworthy? Why do we need to know about this?
We actually need to know about this because if she now has children with the new guy, those children are mamzeirim and we need to know so that our children don't marry them. If anything DIN is doing us a service and it's more "newsworthy" than any of the news that he posted today
This is not the “claim” of a beis din. It is an undisputed fact. Even the woman in question concedes that it is so. Only, she claims that she received a pesak that her first marriage was a kiddushei ta’us and therefore she did not need to get divorced from her “husband.” The vast majority of poskim who addressed this at the time said it was a misapplication of the concept of kiddushei ta’us. The posek who gave her the pesak (who is no longer alive) claimed that he stated his ruling in theory based on information he was given, but he did not ascertain if that information was correct.
Rabbi Nota Greenblatt Officiates Tamar Epstein Remarriage Without Get - The Jewish Link https://share.google/7rgctdCvJdarKeSpy correct he wasn't an ordinary posek He was a Godel
Where has that moron 3:01 pm been for many years? With his head stuck in the sand? “No background”? The entire frum world got sucked into that scandal! Even Satmar issued a letter that they don’t usually enter the fray when it’s a Litvishe affair but they have to here because Heimishe will think Shlemiel Kamenetsky is someone choshuv who ordered the fake “bittul” get, as if that’s possible to do. (This latest letter that DIN got hold of is a semi-farce that was heavily criticized on Rav Yudel Shain’s blog for pretending that the mamzerus wasn’t a Philly project since inception that Philly continues backing. The letter goes on to blame Nota Greenblatt as the sole culprit without even naming him. He was hired by Philly when they were desperately posek-shopping & learned that Nota had been creating mamzerim like that for decades that is largely unknown because Nota operated all over yehupitz) YU sided with Philly because it’s a Feminist ideal to back the woman no matter what the facts are & what tremendous damage it causes by doing so). The thugs Mendel Epstein & Belsky also sided with Philly because the machsheifa’s parents hired them $$$$ to “beat the crap” out of the real husband.
Nota is a rasha who was put in cherem by a Beis din of gedolim led by R’ Chatzkel Roth ztl. The only reason why the Philly roshei yeshiva father-son were not put in cherem is because when they found out that batei din on 3 Continents were gearing up to do just that, they LIED that they are “mevatel daas” to R’ Dovid Feinstein who poskened they are manufacturing mamzerus. Meanwhile, go to events like the Philly Community Kollel dinner where the Kamenetskys are chummy & sitting with the zoinah & her 2nd “husband”. Or get a Feminist Modern Orthodox rabbi to call Philly yeshiva. While the roshei yeshiva tell Yeshivish & Heimish rabbis that the “marriage” is forbidden, they talk out both sides of their foul mouths to approve the forbidden union to the Feminists. As UOJ would say, their mouths shtink!
Tamar Epstein’s real husband was lured into an ambush. He was told to come pick up the kid for his visitation turn but the gangsters sent by Mendel Epstein (no relation) & Sruly Belsky were waiting who pounced on him to give him makkos retzach! He barely managed to escape with his life while suffering greatly from the wounds inflicted! This episode figured prominently in the Federal Criminal case against Prodfather Mendel & Gimpel Wolmark. Belsky passed away after the FBI turned his house upside down to empty of evidence while building a case against him. A pair of co-conspirator Rats massered on them to save themselves from going to jail: Aryeh Ralbag (who is Lonna Kin’s cousin) & a Chabadsker rabbi who has a Philly shul & taught at the watered down Bais Yaakov in Philly run by Tamar Epstein’s mother. Tamar’s BT father was the personal attending physician to the Kamenetskys always at their beck & call to run over to the house. There was also some baksheesh involved because the more outrageous the “heter” the more $$$ is required!
Heinemann is a funny duck. He was also essentially spitting in the face of the Beis din in his own community who correctly poskened Tamar is married to the original husband & does not even have legit non-corrupt grounds to demand a get, by signing in support of the Feminist ORA Losers at YU. Due in part because Heinemann is a Feminist & in part because Heinemann is one of the biggest cover uppers at the Agudah who just can’t have high ups like Philly exposed as the Frauds that they are!
Guys I have to laugh! When I touch on the Kavod of any Gadol, everyone and his uncle jumps on me that I am an "apikoras" Yet, here we have a Yeshivishe Charedie who just buried with the most vile descriptions in his comments above ...Rabbi Greenblatt, Rabbi Belsky, Rav Heinemann ,Rav Ralbag, Rav Kaninetzki, all in one fell swoop ! I keep telling you guys that Charediem hate each other!
I didn't delete it because I thought we would get the truth out, but I must have touched a live wire!
This low life who they refer to as Mar Ahron Friedman, tried torturing his wife by withholding a get for years. When his evil plot failed he went crying for rachmounus to anyone who would listen. It was clear as day that this guy suffered from mental illness and had no business getting married in the first place. Bh she was given this psak to save her from the clutches of this rasha.
Ahron Friedman is the victim, except through the lens of the Feminist Modern Orthodox who always blame the husband with their Sadistic Loi Ploog. Treacherous Tamar wants out one day, even if it was true, with her shallow, absurd complaint that Ahron is a nice guy - BUT - shy around other men. Like the Beis Din told her it’s not a reason to get divorced, not in Halacha & not in the thinking of a mature, responsible adult. But the Kurva is all about My Way or the Highway so she had Philly yeshiva manipulated who got the Memphis Mamzer Macher to make up a story about “mental illness” with a doctor who never met Ahron in his life!
It was a cinch that DIN will come to "Rav" Ralbag's rescue as he is the "infallible" cousin & surrogate of Lonna Kin. But what is DIN's excuse to go to bat for the Mamzeres, protecting all the imposter rabbonim trying to engineer that she enter the Khal to poison the kedushah of Klal Yisroel? Nor vos ............
So what if he suffered from mental illness? Is your marriage nullified if you suffer from mental illness? There was no psak that he can get married it seems either r nota had dementia at the time or he was misled
Old story is right as there are mamzer sibling(s) but that didn’t generate this level of alarm. The immoral family unit & Philly yeshiva did a pretty good job however of keeping the other mamzer(im) a secret. They were secretly shtupped in the Philly day school that the Kamenetskys to a large degree control despite it being Modern Orthodox & the student(s) names are davka kept out of published material. There is much evidence regardless like Adam Fleischer placing dinner journal ads thanking the rebbi, etc
Wrong, there was very strong medical evidence presented that he had prior mental illness that was covered up. Nobody manipuletd anyone and nobody made up any stories.
Stop lying! The unprofessional doctor who “determined” never met Ahron in his life. You Epsteins & Feminista Pipsqueaks are something else! Even after Farcical ORA pronounced their “bittul” kiddushin that the zoineh is “free” to “marry” you still show up like a bunch of pro-Hamasniks shreying at Silver Spring shuls where people are trying to daven, even threatening vandalism & the safety of rabbis & congregants who let Ahron participate. Why do think Nutty Greenblatt got put in cherem? Dozens of rabbonim called him to whom he refused to discuss details - because he’s hiding what a Fraud he was hired to pull off!
i myself spoke to R Sholom who now feels very bad about the story and sees the consequences. He added that there is nothing he can do now and that he won't intervene to break up a couple's [forbidden] marriage.
'Not bad' response from pathalogical liar Sholom. Of course he won't tell them to separate after a decade of personally encouraging the forbidden union. And he feifs on the halacha that they must still be separated!
The mental health professionals that were used for the corrupt 'heter' never met nor spoke to Mr Friedman. It was just all fabricated lies by the Epstein and kamenetakies.
"feels bad" - PATHETIC. He is the one who orchestrated all the atrocities against the husband and all the illicit actions of the Epstein family, including the Mamzar. And now he just feels bad and is playing the innocent bystander!?! Disgusting! All the true gedolim of this generation know his true colors and despise him.
You guys are all missing the point! The biggest mamzer in this story is Friedman himself Why is he still withholding the get? This Friedman mamzer should never be allowed to come back in Klall Yisrael! He should be shunned and the rabbis supporting him should be put in Cherem! Allowing this mamzer ben nidda to withold a get and causing others to have mamzeirim.He is a חוטא ומחטיא את הרבים
With all respect, you don't know the true story. Speak to those rabbonim who support him. Speak to the Baltimore BD. Speak to Mr Friedman. Speak to the gangster "Rabbonim" who went to jail for finding themselves on the wrong side of this situation. Those who know the details know that Friedman is 100% innocent. Not 99%. Please trouble yourself to know the real story.
2:13 This is not a complicated case at all, she wanted out for whatever reason. Which mashiginer wants to be with someone who doesn't want him? Don't give that crap "Oh, there has to be cause etc etc" Helllooow ! She doesn't want him! She hates him! Give the get, period! All those Rabbanom who encouraged him to withhold the get, are going to hell! Look at the disaster that this has caused! The RBS"O will not soon forget these gangsters who call themselves rabbanim and told him not to give the get! They caused a mamzer to be born! Hey! Why doesn't that Mamzer ben Nidda who calls himself Friedman give the get now?? He is not allowed to be with her even if she wanted him back now! What toeles is there in not giving her the get now!! I think that it must be true that he is a mental case and Rav Greenblatt z"l was absolutely correct in his psak! One doesn't have to speak to his doctor or psychologist to know that he is a bona fide crazed meshiginer! Who in their right mind would want to be with someone who hate him? Only a sicl pervert meshiginer!
100% right on DIN! This is a classic case of shaming the victim and victimizing the villian. He withheld a get for three years before the psak and continues to withhold it. But somehow he gets the sympathy from a bunch of rabbonim who have an axe to grind with the Kamenatsky's. Who don't kowtow to the yeshivisha oloms whims and wants. Good for them!
DIN, this is different than most gittin disputes. You might even agree that Tamar’s reason for demanding a get is absurd. What you aren’t taking into account is that she uses her phony excuses to exit the marriage as a tool to cut Ahron off from his child. Surely there has to be at least one case where you don’t side with the vicious woman in the dispute. If there was ever such a case it should be this one!
Your just spewing hate while totally ignorant of the facts. What if she brought false witnesses to court, stole all his money unjustly, stole his child against normal procedures. What if he TRIED to give a get up front in the BD of HER choice, but then SHE did not cooperate with the BD, and played foul in BD with her $$$$ and advice of kamenetaky.
Pikchim It makes no difference what her reason was for wanting out! This is no longer about her cutting him off from his child that is a separate issue! The courts are no fools, I'm sure that they appointed a psychologist to ascertain his mental competence! The rabbanim who backed him have now caused a "Mamzer" to be born!
5:59 I'll give you the facts!!! His wife wanted out! The "smart-ass" rabbanim told the meshiginer Friedman that her reasons are absurd and backed him, causing his wife to have a mamzer! i Hope it was all worth it!
The parties both agreed to go to the Baltimore Bais Din and according to this letter that the BD issued, she walked out of the BD after lying to the BD about a seperate secular court case that she initiated. You can't cry Aguna and blame the big bad Rabbanim after she decided to lie and walk out of the BD that she chose. Its always easy to go blame everyone else for your problems but sometimes you just have to look in the mirror. Everyone is entitled to due process, even men in a divorce case.
DIN - Either your just a liberal non-torah believing feminist or just very shallow. A get is given after all other issues are dealt with fairly. You also refuse to address the point, that she did not cooperate with Beis Din to receive her get. It's true that in many cases the man is wrong but doesn't mean in all cases. Anyone who bothered to learn all the details and sequence of events of this case, side with the husband.
Of course it matters! There is a halacha that if the witch tries pulling immoral fast ones for gelt or virtual child kidnapping that she loses the privilege of being entitled to a get. Not that Halacha means anything to you! And you are in gantzen nisht ehrlich! The Epsteins didn’t like the court decision on shared custody so what did they do? This is the only case of “beating the Crap out of” someone that you are hiding. They went to Mendel Epstein & Belsky whose thugs ambushed innocent victim Aharon. They savagely beat him, would have killed him if he didn’t somehow manage to escape!
2:01 Anyone reading this blog which is now over 20 years old knows that I am not a liberal or a conservative, I am a thought-out guy who seeks the emes! I don't give two craps about her "not cooperating with the Bais Din" whatever that actually means! At the end of the day they backed a Get refuser for whatever reason and caused a Mamzeres to be born in Klall Yisrael! This Bais Din is going to hell! No one needs to " bother to learn the details and sequence of events" The facts are that this stubbornness of this psychotic Friedman and his enablers, the rabbanim caused a mamzer to be born.... Shame on them!!!
3:37 Halacha????? Give me a break! You mean YOUR Halacha! There were Gedoilim (whom you denigrate) who also know the Halacha and knew the story and said that he is a bona fide lunatic! And anyone with a brain will attest to this that this Mamzer Freidman is a sick deranged meshigener! 1)His wife hates his guts, can't stand his smelly presence but he wants to stay married to someone who hates him! 2) He then gets the crap beat out of him and he still refuses to give a get, then his wife gets a heter from Gedoilim to remarry and now years later he still refuses to give a get! Is this guy sane? This vile creature who calls himself Friedman and his enablers caused, according to them a Mamzer to be born או לרשע ואו לשכינו
Firstly, the kamenetakies sent this to r Dovid Feinstein for a psak. He said Friedman is completely normal and in the right - so what are you talking about. Second - if she got a heter - why does she need a get ?? And there is no mamzar. You can't have it both ways!!
You are really shallow, or like I said a feminist even though you deny it. Why does it have to be that he is the crazy one? Did it ever cross your mind that she is the psychotic one? And it has nothing to do with wanting to stay married to her. He just wants a fair settlement and that is the halacha. But you clearly don't care about that. And you say that you don't care that she didn't cooperate with the BD and accept her get - what in the world do you want from him?? You clearly have some bias here
Firstly...Oh Wow! Rav Dovid gave a psak on someone that the guy is normal? How can anyone say that? Did he give him a Psych test??? I don't believe it for a minute... bring me more dead witnesses, maybe then I'll believe it! Second- did you read what I wrote? I wrote that "according to them," why isn't this bastard giving a get now????????
5:29 So, according to your warped logic that she is the crazy one, why is he withholding the get? Why does he insist that he wants to live with her??? I have no bias here, I don't know him and I don't know her, all I know that according to you and him, she is crazy, yet he refuses to divorce her! And the whole story that you said that her witnesses were false makes no sense at all! Why does she need witnesses? I never heard a get case where the woman brings witnesses, all she needs is to tell Bais Din that the guy makes her nauseous and she hates his guts, based on that alone, Bais Din is required to instruct him to give a get! But these Rabbanim are a bunch of gangsters and enabled this vile piece of crap to withhold a get, so now I hope they are happy because they now, according to them caused a mamzeres to be born in Klall Yisrael!
You don't answer any of my points. Witnesses in court and beis din. Your clearly do not know how things work. Yes, the doctor who claimed to have examined him never saw or spoke to him so he was a farce. and after Rav Dovid Feinstein met him for hours and hours, heard both sides, investigated the facts, poskened that the heter is a farce based on all lies. And that the husband is not mechuyav to give a get. Again, you seem not to care about halach, just what makes sense to you. But according to you that she had a heter to get married, there is no mamzar, so all is good
Ok listen buddy! I'll let you into a small secret: I was a Toen in Bais Din for three years, so I know very much how B"D works, there is no B"D that would say that " the husband is not mechuyav to give a get." and leave his wife an agunah, knowing that if they told her she is never getting a get she may marry someone else anyway and produce a mamzer! No way!!!! No B"D! Let me repeat this, having seen hundreds of divorces in B"D there isn't a B"D that would say that " " the husband is not mechuyav to give a get." So now I don't believe anything that you said ! To prove your point you are bringing us someone who is dead! Why would Rav Dovid Feinstein z"l a busy man sit " hours and hours?" For what? If took him hours to declare him sane? then Rav Dovid, was not doing something right! Interviewing the woman should take 10 minutes, all she had to say that she hates him, every B"D would instruct this mamzer to grant her a get! The whole story stinks and so far he still hasn't given a divorce knowing full well that he can no longer live with her! He is sick and so are the rabbanim who enabled this vile piece of crap!
"Let me repeat this, having seen hundreds of divorces in B"D there isn't a B"D that would say that " " the husband is not mechuyav to give a get."
Why don't you read the letter that the Baltimore BD wrote - becuase that is exactly what they wrote? "Mr. Friedman has therefore not yet become obligated to divorce his wife per our Psak Din"
9:28 I read and reread their psak! There so many inconsistencies in this psak that it can only be that amaratrzim put this together! I may actually post the psak and take it apart line by line..
This psak that you linked is proof positive that they are the direct cause of a mamzer being born in klall yisral! They are going to hell, each and every one that signed this incoherent psak!
Baltimore beis din is considered a reputable BD. I'm still waiting for a answer of why you keep talking about a MAMZAR if you say her Rabbonim are correct, the husband is crazy and she had a heter - where is The mamzar ?? and why does she need a get? Please answer this. I believe that in addition to the above referenced letter from the BD, there is an additional more recent letter which also says he is NOT obligated to give a get and gives the reasoning. You seem similar to the last 3 directors of the curropt ORA organization. All 3 are separated and refuse to give a get. After saying that no matter what one one must give a get. Even if the woman stole all your money, stole your child, lied with false witnesses in court and beis din, of course "I would still give a get" and look at them now......
Saying you are a toin says it all. Everyone knows that all toin's lie and corrupt justice. I've heard from many Rabbonim that toin should not be allowed in BD and that there is a special place in Hell for all of them
DIN pounds his chest that he was a toyan for 3 years. Haha! Sure sounds like he apprenticed under one of the biggest lying gangsters of that notorious bunch, like maybe Gershon Spiegel. Any am haaretz knows the halacha in some cases denies a get to a badly behaving isha. So stop lying! The ones causing mamzerim are you sick Feminists! The Steipler grada said that the Feminist rabbis are choshud for being nichshol in znus themselves
8:29 This "reputable BD" created a Mamzer according to their own psak! According to the Baltimore BD he never gave a get, so again, according to "them" they created a mamzer! A man is obligated to give his wife a get if she says that she hates him, and that is what she said according to the Baltimore B"D. If this was in the times of the Bais Hamikdash they would now need to bring a korban but since we do not have a B"H they are going to hell!
8:31 Interesting because all those who signed the psak are also Toens in other cases! So I agree with you that they are a bunch of corrupt liars! And that is why I left this field!
This B"D created a mamzer and that's according to their own very words, they enabled a sick, depraved, sadistically meshiginar to withhold a get ...and even now, when they say that he never gave a get, he is still withholding it! This B"D is going to hell! And I will have the last word! No ,more comments
Dont marry into her family if you dont trust the rabbanim who said the meach taus was proper. Dont think it is anyone's business outside of the rabbanim who gave the psak, as to the grounds for it. These sort of matters are usually extemely private and nooen owess the public an explanation to private matters oin their bedroom . The man shoudl hace seen where it was goign and understood the marriage is over and stopped being stubborn. If the whole matter is made up and she was not entitled to a mekach taus al pi halacha-- the husband is to blame for a mamzer. Even the husband of a sotah gets Maakos despite his innocence. And how much more so when you are not innocent. Boo-hoo he cried, noone will look at him and his life is over. And in the eyes of Hashem as well, for all the tzaar he caused.
54 comments:
Why did you publish this? There is no background to the ruling. It seems like a tragedy for the family. Why is this newsworthy? Why do we need to know about this?
We actually need to know about this because if she now has children with the new guy, those children are mamzeirim and we need to know so that our children don't marry them. If anything DIN is doing us a service and it's more "newsworthy" than any of the news that he posted today
3:01
This" loshon hara
business that the Yeshivishe Oilim is pushing, has gotten out of hand and will now cause untold mamzeirim!
This story happened a while ago not sure why they woke up now to put out this letter
This is not the “claim” of a beis din. It is an undisputed fact. Even the woman in question concedes that it is so. Only, she claims that she received a pesak that her first marriage was a kiddushei ta’us and therefore she did not need to get divorced from her “husband.” The vast majority of poskim who addressed this at the time said it was a misapplication of the concept of kiddushei ta’us. The posek who gave her the pesak (who is no longer alive) claimed that he stated his ruling in theory based on information he was given, but he did not ascertain if that information was correct.
Rabbi Nota Greenblatt Officiates Tamar Epstein Remarriage Without Get - The Jewish Link https://share.google/7rgctdCvJdarKeSpy correct he wasn't an ordinary posek He was a Godel
Where has that moron 3:01 pm been for many years? With his head stuck in the sand? “No background”? The entire frum world got sucked into that scandal! Even Satmar issued a letter that they don’t usually enter the fray when it’s a Litvishe affair but they have to here because Heimishe will think Shlemiel Kamenetsky is someone choshuv who ordered the fake “bittul” get, as if that’s possible to do. (This latest letter that DIN got hold of is a semi-farce that was heavily criticized on Rav Yudel Shain’s blog for pretending that the mamzerus wasn’t a Philly project since inception that Philly continues backing. The letter goes on to blame Nota Greenblatt as the sole culprit without even naming him. He was hired by Philly when they were desperately posek-shopping & learned that Nota had been creating mamzerim like that for decades that is largely unknown because Nota operated all over yehupitz) YU sided with Philly because it’s a Feminist ideal to back the woman no matter what the facts are & what tremendous damage it causes by doing so). The thugs Mendel Epstein & Belsky also sided with Philly because the machsheifa’s parents hired them $$$$ to “beat the crap” out of the real husband.
Rav Moshe Heineman is retired?
Nota is a rasha who was put in cherem by a Beis din of gedolim led by R’ Chatzkel Roth ztl. The only reason why the Philly roshei yeshiva father-son were not put in cherem is because when they found out that batei din on 3 Continents were gearing up to do just that, they LIED that they are “mevatel daas” to R’ Dovid Feinstein who poskened they are manufacturing mamzerus. Meanwhile, go to events like the Philly Community Kollel dinner where the Kamenetskys are chummy & sitting with the zoinah & her 2nd “husband”. Or get a Feminist Modern Orthodox rabbi to call Philly yeshiva. While the roshei yeshiva tell Yeshivish & Heimish rabbis that the “marriage” is forbidden, they talk out both sides of their foul mouths to approve the forbidden union to the Feminists. As UOJ would say, their mouths shtink!
Tamar Epstein’s real husband was lured into an ambush. He was told to come pick up the kid for his visitation turn but the gangsters sent by Mendel Epstein (no relation) & Sruly Belsky were waiting who pounced on him to give him makkos retzach! He barely managed to escape with his life while suffering greatly from the wounds inflicted! This episode figured prominently in the Federal Criminal case against Prodfather Mendel & Gimpel Wolmark. Belsky passed away after the FBI turned his house upside down to empty of evidence while building a case against him. A pair of co-conspirator Rats massered on them to save themselves from going to jail: Aryeh Ralbag (who is Lonna Kin’s cousin) & a Chabadsker rabbi who has a Philly shul & taught at the watered down Bais Yaakov in Philly run by Tamar Epstein’s mother. Tamar’s BT father was the personal attending physician to the Kamenetskys always at their beck & call to run over to the house. There was also some baksheesh involved because the more outrageous the “heter” the more $$$ is required!
Heinemann is a funny duck. He was also essentially spitting in the face of the Beis din in his own community who correctly poskened Tamar is married to the original husband & does not even have legit non-corrupt grounds to demand a get, by signing in support of the Feminist ORA Losers at YU. Due in part because Heinemann is a Feminist & in part because Heinemann is one of the biggest cover uppers at the Agudah who just can’t have high ups like Philly exposed as the Frauds that they are!
Guys I have to laugh!
When I touch on the Kavod of any Gadol, everyone and his uncle jumps on me that I am an "apikoras"
Yet, here we have a Yeshivishe Charedie who just buried with the most vile descriptions in his comments above ...Rabbi Greenblatt, Rabbi Belsky, Rav Heinemann ,Rav Ralbag, Rav Kaninetzki, all in one fell swoop !
I keep telling you guys that Charediem hate each other!
I didn't delete it because I thought we would get the truth out, but I must have touched a live wire!
This low life who they refer to as Mar Ahron Friedman, tried torturing his wife by withholding a get for years. When his evil plot failed he went crying for rachmounus to anyone who would listen. It was clear as day that this guy suffered from mental illness and had no business getting married in the first place. Bh she was given this psak to save her from the clutches of this rasha.
Ahron Friedman is the victim, except through the lens of the Feminist Modern Orthodox who always blame the husband with their Sadistic Loi Ploog. Treacherous Tamar wants out one day, even if it was true, with her shallow, absurd complaint that Ahron is a nice guy - BUT - shy around other men. Like the Beis Din told her it’s not a reason to get divorced, not in Halacha & not in the thinking of a mature, responsible adult. But the Kurva is all about My Way or the Highway so she had Philly yeshiva manipulated who got the Memphis Mamzer Macher to make up a story about “mental illness” with a doctor who never met Ahron in his life!
It was a cinch that DIN will come to "Rav" Ralbag's rescue as he is the "infallible" cousin & surrogate of Lonna Kin. But what is DIN's excuse to go to bat for the Mamzeres, protecting all the imposter rabbonim trying to engineer that she enter the Khal to poison the kedushah of Klal Yisroel? Nor vos ............
Mentally Ill or rosha make up your mind
Old story
So what if he suffered from mental illness? Is your marriage nullified if you suffer from mental illness? There was no psak that he can get married it seems either r nota had dementia at the time or he was misled
Old story is right as there are mamzer sibling(s) but that didn’t generate this level of alarm. The immoral family unit & Philly yeshiva did a pretty good job however of keeping the other mamzer(im) a secret. They were secretly shtupped in the Philly day school that the Kamenetskys to a large degree control despite it being Modern Orthodox & the student(s) names are davka kept out of published material. There is much evidence regardless like Adam Fleischer placing dinner journal ads thanking the rebbi, etc
Wrong, there was very strong medical evidence presented that he had prior mental illness that was covered up. Nobody manipuletd anyone and nobody made up any stories.
Stop lying! The unprofessional doctor who “determined” never met Ahron in his life. You Epsteins & Feminista Pipsqueaks are something else! Even after Farcical ORA pronounced their “bittul” kiddushin that the zoineh is “free” to “marry” you still show up like a bunch of pro-Hamasniks shreying at Silver Spring shuls where people are trying to daven, even threatening vandalism & the safety of rabbis & congregants who let Ahron participate. Why do think Nutty Greenblatt got put in cherem? Dozens of rabbonim called him to whom he refused to discuss details - because he’s hiding what a Fraud he was hired to pull off!
FALSE. It was all made up, falsefied and fabricated. Confirmed by Rabbi Dovid Feinstein
i myself spoke to R Sholom who now feels very bad about the story and sees the consequences. He added that there is nothing he can do now and that he won't intervene to break up a couple's [forbidden] marriage.
'Not bad' response from pathalogical liar Sholom. Of course he won't tell them to separate after a decade of personally encouraging the forbidden union. And he feifs on the halacha that they must still be separated!
The mental health professionals that were used for the corrupt 'heter' never met nor spoke to Mr Friedman. It was just all fabricated lies by the Epstein and kamenetakies.
"feels bad" - PATHETIC. He is the one who orchestrated all the atrocities against the husband and all the illicit actions of the Epstein family, including the Mamzar. And now he just feels bad and is playing the innocent bystander!?! Disgusting! All the true gedolim of this generation know his true colors and despise him.
You guys are all missing the point! The biggest mamzer in this story is Friedman himself Why is he still withholding the get?
This Friedman mamzer should never be allowed to come back in Klall Yisrael! He should be shunned and the rabbis supporting him should be put in Cherem! Allowing this mamzer ben nidda to withold a get and causing others to have mamzeirim.He is a חוטא ומחטיא את הרבים
With all respect, you don't know the true story. Speak to those rabbonim who support him. Speak to the Baltimore BD. Speak to Mr Friedman. Speak to the gangster "Rabbonim" who went to jail for finding themselves on the wrong side of this situation. Those who know the details know that Friedman is 100% innocent. Not 99%. Please trouble yourself to know the real story.
2:13
This is not a complicated case at all, she wanted out for whatever reason. Which mashiginer wants to be with someone who doesn't want him?
Don't give that crap "Oh, there has to be cause etc etc" Helllooow ! She doesn't want him! She hates him! Give the get, period!
All those Rabbanom who encouraged him to withhold the get, are going to hell! Look at the disaster that this has caused! The RBS"O will not soon forget these gangsters who call themselves rabbanim and told him not to give the get! They caused a mamzer to be born!
Hey! Why doesn't that Mamzer ben Nidda who calls himself Friedman give the get now?? He is not allowed to be with her even if she wanted him back now! What toeles is there in not giving her the get now!!
I think that it must be true that he is a mental case and Rav Greenblatt z"l was absolutely correct in his psak! One doesn't have to speak to his doctor or psychologist to know that he is a bona fide crazed meshiginer! Who in their right mind would want to be with someone who hate him? Only a sicl pervert meshiginer!
100% right on DIN! This is a classic case of shaming the victim and victimizing the villian. He withheld a get for three years before the psak and continues to withhold it. But somehow he gets the sympathy from a bunch of rabbonim who have an axe to grind with the Kamenatsky's. Who don't kowtow to the yeshivisha oloms whims and wants. Good for them!
DIN, this is different than most gittin disputes. You might even agree that Tamar’s reason for demanding a get is absurd. What you aren’t taking into account is that she uses her phony excuses to exit the marriage as a tool to cut Ahron off from his child. Surely there has to be at least one case where you don’t side with the vicious woman in the dispute. If there was ever such a case it should be this one!
Your just spewing hate while totally ignorant of the facts. What if she brought false witnesses to court, stole all his money unjustly, stole his child against normal procedures. What if he TRIED to give a get up front in the BD of HER choice, but then SHE did not cooperate with the BD, and played foul in BD with her $$$$ and advice of kamenetaky.
Pikchim
It makes no difference what her reason was for wanting out!
This is no longer about her cutting him off from his child that is a separate issue! The courts are no fools, I'm sure that they appointed a psychologist to ascertain his mental competence!
The rabbanim who backed him have now caused a "Mamzer" to be born!
5:59
I'll give you the facts!!! His wife wanted out! The "smart-ass" rabbanim told the meshiginer Friedman that her reasons are absurd and backed him, causing his wife to have a mamzer!
i Hope it was all worth it!
The parties both agreed to go to the Baltimore Bais Din and according to this letter that the BD issued, she walked out of the BD after lying to the BD about a seperate secular court case that she initiated. You can't cry Aguna and blame the big bad Rabbanim after she decided to lie and walk out of the BD that she chose. Its always easy to go blame everyone else for your problems but sometimes you just have to look in the mirror. Everyone is entitled to due process, even men in a divorce case.
https://daattorah.blogspot.com/2016/01/baltimore-beis-din-apologizes-for-many.html?m=1
DIN - Either your just a liberal non-torah believing feminist or just very shallow. A get is given after all other issues are dealt with fairly. You also refuse to address the point, that she did not cooperate with Beis Din to receive her get. It's true that in many cases the man is wrong but doesn't mean in all cases. Anyone who bothered to learn all the details and sequence of events of this case, side with the husband.
Of course it matters! There is a halacha that if the witch tries pulling immoral fast ones for gelt or virtual child kidnapping that she loses the privilege of being entitled to a get. Not that Halacha means anything to you! And you are in gantzen nisht ehrlich! The Epsteins didn’t like the court decision on shared custody so what did they do? This is the only case of “beating the Crap out of” someone that you are hiding. They went to Mendel Epstein & Belsky whose thugs ambushed innocent victim Aharon. They savagely beat him, would have killed him if he didn’t somehow manage to escape!
2:01
Anyone reading this blog which is now over 20 years old knows that I am not a liberal or a conservative, I am a thought-out guy who seeks the emes!
I don't give two craps about her "not cooperating with the Bais Din" whatever that actually means! At the end of the day they backed a Get refuser for whatever reason and caused a Mamzeres to be born in Klall Yisrael!
This Bais Din is going to hell!
No one needs to " bother to learn the details and sequence of events"
The facts are that this stubbornness of this psychotic Friedman and his enablers, the rabbanim caused a mamzer to be born....
Shame on them!!!
3:37
Halacha????? Give me a break! You mean YOUR Halacha!
There were Gedoilim (whom you denigrate) who also know the Halacha and knew the story and said that he is a bona fide lunatic!
And anyone with a brain will attest to this that this Mamzer Freidman is a sick deranged meshigener!
1)His wife hates his guts, can't stand his smelly presence but he wants to stay married to someone who hates him!
2) He then gets the crap beat out of him and he still refuses to give a get, then his wife gets a heter from Gedoilim to remarry and now years later he still refuses to give a get!
Is this guy sane?
This vile creature who calls himself Friedman and his enablers caused, according to them a Mamzer to be born
או לרשע ואו לשכינו
Firstly, the kamenetakies sent this to r Dovid Feinstein for a psak. He said Friedman is completely normal and in the right - so what are you talking about. Second - if she got a heter - why does she need a get ?? And there is no mamzar. You can't have it both ways!!
You are really shallow, or like I said a feminist even though you deny it. Why does it have to be that he is the crazy one? Did it ever cross your mind that she is the psychotic one? And it has nothing to do with wanting to stay married to her. He just wants a fair settlement and that is the halacha. But you clearly don't care about that. And you say that you don't care that she didn't cooperate with the BD and accept her get - what in the world do you want from him?? You clearly have some bias here
Firstly...Oh Wow! Rav Dovid gave a psak on someone that the guy is normal? How can anyone say that? Did he give him a Psych test??? I don't believe it for a minute... bring me more dead witnesses, maybe then I'll believe it!
Second- did you read what I wrote?
I wrote that "according to them," why isn't this bastard giving a get now????????
5:29
So, according to your warped logic that she is the crazy one, why is he withholding the get? Why does he insist that he wants to live with her???
I have no bias here, I don't know him and I don't know her, all I know that according to you and him, she is crazy, yet he refuses to divorce her!
And the whole story that you said that her witnesses were false makes no sense at all! Why does she need witnesses? I never heard a get case where the woman brings witnesses, all she needs is to tell Bais Din that the guy makes her nauseous and she hates his guts, based on that alone, Bais Din is required to instruct him to give a get!
But these Rabbanim are a bunch of gangsters and enabled this vile piece of crap to withhold a get, so now I hope they are happy because they now, according to them caused a mamzeres to be born in Klall Yisrael!
You don't answer any of my points. Witnesses in court and beis din. Your clearly do not know how things work. Yes, the doctor who claimed to have examined him never saw or spoke to him so he was a farce. and after Rav Dovid Feinstein met him for hours and hours, heard both sides, investigated the facts, poskened that the heter is a farce based on all lies. And that the husband is not mechuyav to give a get. Again, you seem not to care about halach, just what makes sense to you. But according to you that she had a heter to get married, there is no mamzar, so all is good
Ok listen buddy! I'll let you into a small secret: I was a Toen in Bais Din for three years, so I know very much how B"D works, there is no B"D that would say that " the husband is not mechuyav to give a get." and leave his wife an agunah, knowing that if they told her she is never getting a get she may marry someone else anyway and produce a mamzer! No way!!!!
No B"D!
Let me repeat this, having seen hundreds of divorces in B"D there isn't a B"D that would say that " " the husband is not mechuyav to give a get."
So now I don't believe anything that you said ! To prove your point you are bringing us someone who is dead!
Why would Rav Dovid Feinstein z"l a busy man sit " hours and hours?" For what? If took him hours to declare him sane? then Rav Dovid, was not doing something right!
Interviewing the woman should take 10 minutes, all she had to say that she hates him, every B"D would instruct this mamzer to grant her a get!
The whole story stinks and so far he still hasn't given a divorce knowing full well that he can no longer live with her!
He is sick and so are the rabbanim who enabled this vile piece of crap!
"Let me repeat this, having seen hundreds of divorces in B"D there isn't a B"D that would say that " " the husband is not mechuyav to give a get."
Why don't you read the letter that the Baltimore BD wrote - becuase that is exactly what they wrote? "Mr. Friedman has therefore not yet become obligated to divorce his wife per our Psak Din"
https://daattorah.blogspot.com/2016/01/baltimore-beis-din-apologizes-for-many.html?m=1
9:28
I read and reread their psak! There so many inconsistencies in this psak that it can only be that amaratrzim put this together!
I may actually post the psak and take it apart line by line..
This psak that you linked is proof positive that they are the direct cause of a mamzer being born in klall yisral!
They are going to hell, each and every one that signed this incoherent psak!
Baltimore beis din is considered a reputable BD. I'm still waiting for a answer of why you keep talking about a MAMZAR if you say her Rabbonim are correct, the husband is crazy and she had a heter - where is The mamzar
?? and why does she need a get? Please answer this. I believe that in addition to the above referenced letter from the BD, there is an additional more recent letter which also says he is NOT obligated to give a get and gives the reasoning. You seem similar to the last 3 directors of the curropt ORA organization. All 3 are separated and refuse to give a get. After saying that no matter what one one must give a get. Even if the woman stole all your money, stole your child, lied with false witnesses in court and beis din, of course "I would still give a get" and look at them now......
Saying you are a toin says it all. Everyone knows that all toin's lie and corrupt justice. I've heard from many Rabbonim that toin should not be allowed in BD and that there is a special place in Hell for all of them
DIN pounds his chest that he was a toyan for 3 years. Haha! Sure sounds like he apprenticed under one of the biggest lying gangsters of that notorious bunch, like maybe Gershon Spiegel. Any am haaretz knows the halacha in some cases denies a get to a badly behaving isha. So stop lying! The ones causing mamzerim are you sick Feminists! The Steipler grada said that the Feminist rabbis are choshud for being nichshol in znus themselves
8:29
This "reputable BD" created a Mamzer according to their own psak! According to the Baltimore BD he never gave a get, so again, according to "them" they created a mamzer!
A man is obligated to give his wife a get if she says that she hates him, and that is what she said according to the Baltimore B"D.
If this was in the times of the Bais Hamikdash they would now need to bring a korban but since we do not have a B"H they are going to hell!
8:31
Interesting because all those who signed the psak are also Toens in other cases! So I agree with you that they are a bunch of corrupt liars! And that is why I left this field!
This B"D created a mamzer and that's according to their own very words, they enabled a sick, depraved, sadistically meshiginar to withhold a get ...and even now, when they say that he never gave a get, he is still withholding it! This B"D is going to hell!
And I will have the last word!
No ,more comments
Dont marry into her family if you dont trust the rabbanim who said the meach taus was proper. Dont think it is anyone's business outside of the rabbanim who gave the psak, as to the grounds for it. These sort of matters are usually extemely private and nooen owess the public an explanation to private matters oin their bedroom . The man shoudl hace seen where it was goign and understood the marriage is over and stopped being stubborn. If the whole matter is made up and she was not entitled to a mekach taus al pi halacha-- the husband is to blame for a mamzer. Even the husband of a sotah gets Maakos despite his innocence. And how much more so when you are not innocent. Boo-hoo he cried, noone will look at him and his life is over. And in the eyes of Hashem as well, for all the tzaar he caused.
Post a Comment