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Saturday, February 15, 2025

The contempt and vicious Attack of a Chareidie Rav against Rabbanim that wear Knitted Kipot

 


"They are being killed (soldiers) because we don't learn enough" Rabbi Landau

by Asher Cohen

I loosely translated it from the Hebrew!

The phenomenon of the ultra-Orthodox attacking the national religious and their views is permanent, seasonal, like a natural phenomenon. This time it is Rabbi Dov Landau, head of the Slobodka Yeshiva, one of the leaders of the Lithuanian wing. And in accordance with their custom, this time too, it is just a matter of disqualification and lash out, but not anything substantive in his argument!

And it is almost always striking that the vast majority of the national religious rabbinical leadership is silent.

 Up until the time of writing this column, a browsing of the general and sectoral news sites brings up just one single response. Only Rabbi Yitzhak Ben David, head of the Sha'arei Zion Beit Midrash for the training of city rabbis under Rabbi Nissim, came out publicly criticizing Rabbi Landau.

"I'm not so much a statesman," Rabbi Landau tells his listeners modestly, "I'm not very knowledgeable about the details," but Daat Torah is Daat Torah, and we must present a historical, political background"

First, and this is an explanation that we heard over and over again during the current war, only Torah scholars saved Am Yisrael from a much worse outcome: 

"The fact that Am Yisrael, who are the people of God, made a state of destruction and heresy, is a great obligatory study... Torah scholars are saviors, and there is no explanation as to why the Arabs did not unite to annihilate  the entire land God forbid, save them all."

To the direct question about the sacrifice of the national religious, he answers:

 "So I said, they are being killed because we don't learn enough, and we have to save even more. They are killed because their rabbis teach them a distorted Torah, those who know the Zionist idea, what used to be, the Bnei Akiva movement, it still exists, but I don't wish them any blessing, their slogan was... Not the Creator of the world, not the Torah, 'Eretz Yisrael, for the people of Israel according to the color' – I say – 'the Torah of Israel,' this is what exists." (This is the wording and syntax in the original...).

And then comes a historical analysis centered on the preference for Jewish existence under Arab rule:

 "I don't know what would have happened at the beginning of the state if there had been a UN rule here, it would have been an excellent situation, there's a letter from the Brisker... Against Shertok, Sharett, a letter to the diaspora from 1948, it is possible to live well with the Arabs without a state, if we go further back, it is possible, as Rabbi Chaim Sonnenfeld did, to respect the Arabs, it was quite good that the Arabs ruled here, the situation is best, the Arabs would rule, they would be respected, they would not interfere in it."

In conclusion, it should be noted that when he mocks Rav Kook, he describes him as "the first chief rabbi" without his name, in contrast to Rav Fishman-Maimon, who is mentioned by name, but of course without the title of rabbi. (Hanani Breitkopf, "Rabbi Landau: I am not a statesman, but we were saved from the attack thanks to Torah study; Zionism brought disasters", Kikar HaShabbat 7.2.2025)

It is very possible that in normal times, there would have been room to say, as I heard one of the rabbis of the Hesder yeshivot say, that it is better to ignore it.

 After all, these are Chareidie views that have been known for several generations, as will be immediately clarified. And if we are dealing with an old argument dating back to the days of Rav Kook (to which Landau went so far), what is the real point of the response?

But we are not in normal times. 

Much has already been said about the heavy price that the National Religious Society has paid and continues to pay, in all its shades, in the high weight of its members among the fallen in the war, and in the continuation of its unceasing contribution to the war effort. The comes after more than a year of a harsh war that is still ongoing, and after the empty benches in the yeshivot and the national religious kollels stood out and still stand out.

Hopefully, by the time this column was published, appropriate responses had already been heard, and especially many, from rabbis. For if the deaf are silent at this time, revach ve'hatzala  will come from another place

10 comments:

The Sroogie Boogie said...

Where in your excerpt does it say anything about choice of kippa?

Anonymous said...

https://nypost.com/2025/02/15/lifestyle/how-israels-tech-sector-is-helping-solve-the-nations-aviation-crisis/

Biden gets results said...

https://nypost.com/2025/02/15/us-news/trans-migrant-arrested-for-raping-boy-in-nyc-park-bathroom/

Mordechai Tendler said...

Yeah yeah, “sure”. UOJ started this idea that the media since latched on to that this kind of stuff supposedly runs in families

https://nypost.com/2025/02/15/us-news/long-island-serial-killer-suspect-rex-heuermanns-cousin-accused-of-child-sexual-abuse/

Dusiznies said...

I left out most of Rav Landau's disgusting mocking of rabbanim who wear Kipot Serugot!

Garnel Ironheart said...

The real problem is that the Dati Leumi community lacks proper leaders. Ben Gvir and Smotrich are busy with their :"Kick all the Arabs out" agenda and support the Chareidim so the Chareidim will support them. The Torah leadership of the community is still afraid of creating an official schism by standing up to the Chareidi leadership and telling them where they should go. It's like a abused wife who sticks with her abuser because she doesn't want to break up the family.

Anonymous said...

It’s not like srugie was ever part of the tradition wardrobe when the Zionists suddenly introduced it. And the meshugass in Bnei Akiva circles that boys get them made by girlfriends is assur. Not to mention that the mass produced ones are enriching the murderous Palestinians. Hypocrisy much?

Dusiznies said...

7:30
"Zionists suddenly introduced it?"
Like when Chassidim "suddenly introduced the Shtreimel?" Like when sfardim "suddenly introduced the Yeshivish look?" Like when the RY "suddenly introduced the frock with the two buttons in the back?" Like when Litvishe bochrim "suddenly starting growing beards?"
What the hell do you mean by "suddenly?" Doesn't every style happen "suddenly" when it happens?
"mass produced ones are enriching the murderous Palestinians"
I'll let you into a secret, every single home in Bnei-Brak was "mass-produced by the murderous Palestinians?"
Every single Supermarket in Bnei-Brak has "murderous Palestinians"
And how do you know that
" Bnei Akiva circles that boys get them made by girlfriends"?
At least they wear Kipot! The girlfriends of the thousands of the Yeshivishe kids in Bnei-Brak and Yerushalyim that went OTD don't knit them kipot, because they don't wear any!
Shut the hell up !

Anonymous said...

In the places with shtreimelach everyone wore them not just Chassidishe. Gedolei Yisroel adopted it so it is koidesh hakodoshim. I know it will get you angry but I can’t think of a single gadol who wears a srugie. Yeshivishe bochurim mit berd is altz their Chassidishe yichus. The yeshivos want them to be clean shaven. I am against hiring Arab workers in any industry because of the countless terrorist attacks from those murderous ingrates. You are always hyperventilating like Crazy Eddie Antar & asking if everyone is “insane”. Why not direct the question to your Zionist pals who wholesale srugies made by Hamasniks? You may not know about the girlfriend meshigass when you were growing up in Yagdil, etc, but them making for the boys is a major feature at Bnei Akiva summer camps

Dusiznies said...

4:39
Gedolei Yisrael also wore underwear called "Gatchkis" so is this also "Koidesh hakodoshim".. I would venture to say yes as the Litvishe tried selling R' Chaim's Underwear on auction until they were brutely mocked!
My point is that everything anyone wears when they wear it it is "suddenly" . The fact that Religious Zionist Rabbis started "suddenly" wearing them doesn't take anything away from them as they want to be identified with this Levush, just as the Chassidim and the Litvishe and the Sfardishe! You are just mocking them and that doesn't take anything away from them!

There are thousands of Gedoilei Yisrael that I can name that are affiliated with the Religious Zionists, starting with Rav Shlomo Aviner, who wrote the Sefer עלה נעלה a Sefer that totally decimates the Satmar Rebbe's arguments in his book "al hagila", Harav Eliezer Chaim Shneivald, R"Y "Meir Haral" in Modiin,Harav Yoivel Sharlav, R"Y Orot Shaul in Tel Aviv, Harav Ronan Lovitz, Rav of Nir Etzion, Harav Meir Nehoira, Rav of Masuoit Yitzchok, Harav Michael Avraham, R"Y Mechon Ha'Gevoiah L'eTorah, Harav Chananal Etrog R"Y Shvi Chevron, Harav Orieil Etim, R"Y Yeruchim, Harav Gavi Kadosh Rav Meoiatza Azoirit Bnei Shimon, Harav Yoisef Tzvi Rimon, Harav Elisha Wolfson, Harav Eliezer Melamed ...
I can go on and on, each one mentioned is a "baku be'shas upoiskim" and a Yirei Shamayim many were "mechaber" on Shas and Shulchan Aruch!
and again, thousands of parents from Yerushalyim and bnei Brak would be thrilled if their children's girlfriends knitted them kipot but they don't wear them!
It could be that "hamasnikers make the kipot but they also built all Chareidie homes, all of them! Not only that but Chareidie stores employ Palestinians in all their supermarkets, in Bnei-Brak and Yerushalyim! In Beit Shemesh, the Chareidei Store "Yesh" has Palestinians but the store across the way "Carrefor" employs Ethiopians!
Every single day at least in Beit Shemesh Palestinian day workers get smuggled in by Chareidie developers and arrested! Every day! It's only "heimishe" developers, the Chiloinie developers employ Thais and Chinese! The "chillul Hashem is so great!!
PS You are insane!