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Wednesday, December 17, 2025

Should Jews leave America now?

DIN: In the video below, you have "debate" between  Rabbi Elchanan Shoff and Rabbi Michal Weichbrod

 I am in the midst of taking apart this discussion and exposing the half-truths and all lies of  Rabbi Shoff! 


by Avraham Shusteris

The below article is a response to a recent podcast debate between two American Rabbis who discussed whether Othodox (frum) Jews in America should be making aliyah now. The entire debate can be seen above.

The question is asked. And after the Sydney massacre it is being asked again. It is whispered in the shuls of Brooklyn and shouted in the study halls of Lakewood.

We hear the great excuse, the terrible shield behind which the American Jew hides his fear and his comfort.

"How can I make Aliyah? What about the children? What if they go off the derech? What if they fall?"

And so, to "save" the children, we sentence them to the graveyard of the Exile.

It is madness! It is a tragedy of logic that only a Jew in Galut could invent. You are afraid that in the Holy Land, the land God’s eyes are upon from the beginning of the year to the end, your child will lose his way? But in America- the land of filth, of materialism, of the worship of the Golden Dollar-there he will be safe?


Let us speak the truth that hurts. The risk of staying in America is not a "risk." It is a certainty. It is a guarantee of spiritual rot. It is a guarantee of a life filled with the pursuit of pleasure, money and entitlement. With antisemitism rising exponentially, America is , sadly, not a guarantee anymore of actual life, but that is not the main reason for aliyah.

Look at the frum yungerman in America. He wears the velvet yarmulke. He knows the Gemara. He eats Glatt Kosher. But look inside! He absorbs the air of the street, the drive for the dollar, the obsession with the house, the car, the prestige. Who does he see featured week after week on the cover of the frum magazines - wealthy frum Jews. He sees the ads in magazines advertising Glatt Kosher gambling cruises and Mehadrin trips to Thailand with flashy singers and speakers. He learns that the purpose of life is comfort, glatt kosher style.

This is a Jew who has lost his soul while keeping his rituals. This is a "Deck of Cards" Judaism. It appears solid from the outside. It looks tall. But it is hollow. It has no base. It has no Mesirus Nefesh-no concept of self-sacrifice. A Jew who cannot sacrifice, a Jew who demands guarantees, be they guarantees of a comfortable salary or even guarantees in chinuch (educating his children) success - this is not the Judaism of Abraham, who did not get any guarantees and didn't ask for them! This is a fake, phony, plastic Judaism that will collapse at the first wind of history, just as it collapsed in Europe before the war.

The "Off the Derech" (term for leaving religious life) rate in America is happening right in front of your eyes, but it is a spiritual Off the Derech where the mouth gives praise to the Gedolim (great rabbis) but the eyes and heart look up to the Gevirim (wealthy).

And then comes the second excuse, the refuge of the coward: "My Rabbi didn't tell me to go."

We respect and live by the words of our Gedolim. We drink their Torah as living water. But do not play games with the truth. You cannot expect a Rabbi in America to order you to have Mesirus Nefesh. A Rabbi can tell you the law. He can tell you what is Kosher and what is Treif. But he cannot command you to have the fire of sacrifice in your stomach. That must come from you. That is your test.

You want the Rabbi to take responsibility? If you fail in Israel, you want to blame him? "The Rabbi told me to go!" No. The Jew must own his decision. He must plan, he must struggle, he must sweat. That is what it means to be a free Jew in his own land.

And for those who say, "But the great Rabbis of the past did not go!"-I tell you, stop hiding behind the dead to justify your comfort among the living! The greatest Sage of our own time, the Prince of Torah, Rav Chaim Kanievsky zt”l, told every Jew who asked: "Go. Go to Israel."

Is that not enough? Or do you pick and choose which Gadol to listen to based on which one lets you stay in your comfortable house?

But don't take my word for it, who am I? Learn the Gemara in Tractate Ketubot. Look at Rebbi Zeira! He wanted to go to Eretz Yisrael. His own teacher, the great Rav Yehudah, was vehemently against it. And what did Rebbi Zeira do? Did he argue? No. He evaded his master and escaped in the night!

Why? Because Rebbi Zeira knew that there are times when the soul of a Jew screams a truth that overrides all calculations of the mind. He knew that to be a small Jew in Eretz Yisrael is greater than being a giant in Babylon. And he became the Torah luminary of his time, the Gadol Hador, of the Land of Israel.

Yes, there are challenges in Israel. Yes, there are risks, both physical and spiritual. But Judaism is not a religion of comfort. It is not an insurance policy or a guarantee. It is a challenge. It is the willingness to be bothered, to be burdened, to struggle for the Will of God, Ratzon Hashem.

And -

Stop expecting guarantees. Stop worshiping safety. Tear up the deck of cards before it falls on its own. Come home to the struggle. Struggle is in our nation's DNA- it is in our very name- Yisrael- which means "one who has struggled with God." This was the name given to our Patriarch Jacob by the Angel who confronted him and wrestled with him throughout the night..

Yisrael is our name and it is likewise our essence. This is what God chose us for. Now it's time to live up to it. and stop hiding. Come home to the God of Israel who waits for His children to stop being Americans and start being Jews.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well, if I come, I’d be joining the “Chareidi” community and further invoking your ire. I’m not sure who your target audience is.

Hee Hee said...

Talk about killing 2 birds with 1 stone! Shoff is son in law of DIN’s old “buddy” Mordechai Tendler lol, and alleged to be the vicious blogger who was attacking Tendler critics, including DIN in his previous incarnation of the New Hempstead News which was a thorn in Tendler’s side if there ever was!

Dusiznies said...

3:49
It seems that you are new to this blog.
Those following me know that I love all Jews even the Chardedie fakes, frauds and phonies!
Just because I call them out doesn't diminish my love for all Jews!
You are welcome to come to Israel, and once you come, I'll be happy to meet you in person as dozens of my followers have already done!
Two of those who I met just weeks ago were vocal opponents to my blog and when we met, I had no intention to change their views, they were surprised, and I told them that soon enough, they will come to similar opinions as myself!
My target audience are Frum naive Jews!

Garnel Ironheart said...

Whether on purpose or not, American Orthodoxy responded to the forming and flourishing of Israel by doubling down on building up their corner of Golus. Been to Lakewood or Boro Park lately? Or worse, either of the Satmar-villes or New Skver? None of those people are thinking of making aliyah. They've built their little Jerusalems and would never give that up for the messy reality of Jewish Israel.

Anonymous said...

Sad but Israel in the hot desert surrounded by snakes (terrorists) ready to strike at any second, people living in constant PTSD due to constant bombings that affect their personalities and cause them to be so high strung and abrasive, Jews who grew up in Arab countries affected by arab mentaliy bc one's environment affects you, the pursuit of materialism, the vile hatred of the secular to orthodox who impose religious law via Rabbanut on marriage and divorce and shabbat on bus system and many other ways onto them, Israeli secular culture that seeps into the orthodox way of life unless really living in a ghetto bubble... ALL OF THIS is what makes it so difficult. A parent who is entrusted to bring a neshama into this world and raise that child to be a Torah G-d fearing adult doesn't want to take a risk, doesn't want to put that child at risk where the secular society has such a strong influence. Would you let a three year old walk alone alongside a major highway, knowing there is a strong likelihood they may blunder and walk into traffic? Face the facts of what is goes on with honesty and address the issues that way-- don't fault the parents who want to protect their children's religious identities. And who then, sadly, get used to their community and way of life in golus and don't even think of aliya bc they are overwhelmed with surviving their own daily struggles filled with responsibilities and supporting their families. Focus on SOLUTIONS -- create means of parnassah and affordable housing so it will be impossible to resist making aliya.

Dusiznies said...

10:46
You are repeating Schoff’s distortions, which I will address בע"ה next week.

I live in Israel, and I have yet to meet a single family living in “constant PTSD due to bombings that make them abrasive and high-strung.”
Yes, there are soldiers who suffer from PTSD — but the Charedim? Many didn’t even realize there was a war going on. They weren’t running to shelters when sirens sounded.
Where exactly did you get this information?

You wrote:
“Jews who grew up in Arab countries are affected by Arab mentality, the pursuit of materialism.”
What nonsense! “The pursuit of materialism”? You cannot be referring to Israel. Who here is pursuing materialism?
I lived in Monsey for over 40 years, and I can tell you firsthand that materialism is far more rampant in Chutz La’aretz. Outrageous weddings, extravagant bar mitzvahs, gigantic kiddushim — are you blind? I don’t see that in Israel.

You claim: “The vile hatred of the secular toward the orthodox who impose religious law via Rabbanut.”
Hatred? It isn’t “vile” — it’s understandable.
Their children serve in the army, work, pay taxes, and much of those taxes support Charedim who refuse to work.
So yes, they protest occasionally. Meanwhile, the hatred that some Charedim harbor toward secular Jews is constant, instilled by their Torah leaders and Roshei Yeshiva.
Yet even so, this is still the best of times — open a Tanach and you’ll see Jew killing Jew. Today, despite clashes between police and protestors, Jews are not killing each other.

You wrote:
“Israeli secular culture seeps into orthodox life unless one lives in a ghetto bubble.” I live in Beit Shemesh. Not a Ghetto at all, Chilonim, Charedim, Daati Leumi, Sfardim and Ashkenazim all live in this city and I don’t see any “secular culture.”
On Shabbos, I counted four cars driving — that’s it. In Bnei Brak, Kiryat Sefer, Beitar Illit, Netanya, Tzfat, Tiberias, and most of Jerusalem, there is no such “secular culture.” What are you talking about?

Then you add the outrageous claim:
“Parents don’t want to risk raising children in a society with strong secular influence.”
The State of Israel has more mosdos haTorah than any other country in the world. More Torah is learned here than anywhere else. Assimilation here is practically zero. In the U.S., according to Pew, assimilation is over 85%!
Do you work for the BBC?

Finally, you conclude:
“Focus on solutions — create parnassah and affordable housing so aliyah will be irresistible.”
Is this some sort of evil joke? You expect us in Israel to create parnassah and housing for you while you sit comfortably in Chutz La’aretz?
Come here and do it yourself. We don’t owe you anything.
Very soon, you won’t be worrying about parnassah or secular influence — you’ll be worrying about survival.

Be careful how you speak about Eretz Yisrael. Hashem is bound to this Land, and totally obsessed with it!
Those “gedolim” who spoke against it when it was under Canaanite control were punished severely.

Chana Paisik said...

To the one who commented at 10:46
I am not a follower of this blog at all, because I don't agree with many of his views. I happened to come across this post as it came up in a search on google about Jews leaving the US.
I saw your comment, and this totally disrupted my day. I live in Modiin and this city is not at all Charadei there is a small pocket of Daati Leumi in a neighborhood called Buchman. There isn't one x-,mass tree on the entire city.
I just came back from the mall, there is only Chanukah in the air, nothing secular at all.

Your comment " the vile hatred of the secular to orthodox who impose religious law via Rabbanut on marriage and divorce and shabbat on bus system and many other ways onto them, Israeli secular culture that seeps into the orthodox way of life unless really living in a ghetto bubble." is a fabrication.
Modiin is not at all a "ghetto bubble' everyone lives and let live, no one is imposing anything on anyone. I brought up an entire family here and all are Baruch Hashem Shoimrei Torah, many enlisted and now all are married with beautiful frum families.
Your comment is Loshon Hara and I doubt that you will ever be forgiven for speaking like you did about most of Klall Yisrael.