Coverage of meeting with incoming US Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee and Rav Dovid Hofstedter
Thank God that Mike Huckabee was having none of that and told Hofsteder off telling him politely that US cannot get involved in internal Israeli affairs!
But the sheer chutzpah!
Reb Dovid with his fancy English dressing up his outright perfidy with niceties! He fooled no one!
Approaching the incoming US Ambassador to Israel, a Christian Evangelicist, no less, to undermine the Israeli Democratic process!
First with his sneaky introduction to the subject "admitting" that a country needs an army to protect its citizens, but then veers into his agenda that he doesn't want Chareidim to be in the process! R' Dovid wants only Chilonim to "moiser nefesh" for the country!
I cannot get over this! Totally disappointed in R' Dovid!
?האחיכם יבוא למלחמה ואתם ישבו פה
19 comments:
You think YOU get it? Even the rasha merusha Pharoah let shevet Levi learn
To Yoishev Oihalim
I am a Levi and I have a direct Mesorah that my ancestors in Mitzrayim were learning R' Chaim Brisker Toraelich, if it was a "cheftzeh" or maybe a "gavreh"
This entire war was orchestrated by the leftist that want Bibi out at all costs. They should all be put on trial for treason, murder etc. and executed. They are all part of the "deep-state".
Shtait in seforim the Leviyim were learning. What Medrash are you talking about?
How about a little honesty, DIN? Are you also going to deny that Yankev Avinu was a yeshiva mann?
Huckabee was mechaven to Brisker Rov that the anteh-Semitten hate Yidden as an extension of hating HKBH.
DIN, ken zein there are smarter, more successful people than you who have a better handle on the situation. You have the nerve to call R' Dovid Hofstedter a mechutzef? What about Sheldon Adelson who became a major supporter of Ponivizh which has been continued by his almonnoh?
ISH TAM
The Leviiem were only exempt from wars of conquest such as the 7 Cannaite nations but were not excluded from defensive wars! They fought with Dovid, with Shlomo and all subsequent kings!
To Adam ki yomus baOhel
Yaakov Aveenu is my prime example of a "yeshiva maan" going to war!
ןויירא יעקב מאד ויצר לו
see Rashi:
"וייצר לו" אם יהרוג הוא אחרים
והיה המחנה הנשאר לפליטה
see Rashi:
על כרכו, כי אלחם עמו
התקין עצמו לשלשה דברים לדורן לתפילה ולמלחמה
He didn't sit down to learn!
Ben Tayreh
I also support Torah, in fact I am most of the day in shul learning!
Please don't compare the chutzpinak Hoffsteder to Adelson! Hoffsteder went to undermine the Israeli government in a sneaky way. What he did is no different to what the Neturei Karta do, they also try to convince goyim that the Zionists are different then other Jews!
This is a Chutzpah "shein kooiha" to talk to a the incoming US ambassador to Israel to manipulate and put pressure on the duly elected government!
Isn't he from Canada? Why didn't he ever try to set up a meeting with the antisemitic Canadian Government to convince to let go of their hate towards Israel?
As I keep saying Charidiem are out of touch with most of Klall Yisrael and this is not going to end well!
DIN, you know how to debate, but you can’t erase the fact that Yaakov sat in yeshivas Shem v’Ever for 14 years or that the gantz shevet Yissocher sat to learn with full support. Shem v’Ever weren’t even Jews so kal vachoimer for us
So R’ Davey is not allowed to propagandize but you are. That’s rich! You’re just jealous that he’s the marbitz Torah hador, has a few bucks & has access not just to incoming Ambassador but also to the who’s who on Capitol Hill
First let me address "revisionist History much"
First off, Yaakov was actually PUNISHED for sitting in "Shem v"ever" for 14 years! Second as I pointed out that when he finally confronted Eisav he was prepared to slam his "gammarra" shut to fight!
Second, Shevet Yissocher was required to fight in the army just like everyone else, he was not at all exempt to fight in a "defensive war"
Learning Torah is NOT an exemption for fighting for your brothers and sisters!
?האחיכם יבוא למלחמה ואתם ישבו פה
And now to "Hey Hypocreet"
No! "R’ Davey " a Canadian who obviously doesn't give a flying crap about his own brethren living there as he never made it his business to meet any Canadian politicians to alleviate the huge antisemitic attacks, has no right to undermine the Jewish State that houses the majority of the Jewish people with his reckless conversation with a goy a Christian evangelicist no less!
While we are at it he has usurped the Daf Hayoimie and making it his own, which is all right, he can do what he wants, I learned the Daf Yoimi for over 30 years before anyone ever heard of "R' Davey" as you call him! Speaking to the US ambassador as a Canadian and not an American or an Israeli is sheer chutzpah!!
I wrote to Huckabee and explained that I have a blog that will hit 21 million soon and has over 80,000 views a week and explained to him that Hofstedder represents no one, not even the Orthodox!
You just proved a commenter’s point! So pontificating & influencing is only for Thee and not for Davee? (He was known as Davey when a bochur). But I’m so ‘sure’ in any case that Huckabee is going to fall for your poison pen letter that a blogger slash 3rd party vendor of tchotchkes for anti-Semite Jeff Bezos is more chushev than an accomplished billionaire, Canadian or not. RDH is by the way advocating for Torah which knows no geographical boundary, so stop splitting hairs over what passport he carries. You are also wrong about Yaakov Avinu. He was not punished for learning. He was punished to make a point about Kibud Av voAme that his yeshiva was so far away that it precluded him from having any shaychus with his parents
Agreed! Not sure what he hopes to accomplish by this meeting. Hukabee is not the one who needs convincing to support Israel. If anything he should sit down with AOC or her ilk to try to talk them into supporting Israel.
What your basis?Source
Malcolm Ho-Ho-Hoenlein (as UOJ’s friend “Boog” calls him) brought big protekzia & tried to arrange a sit down with AOC. She is such a vicious anti-Semite that she won’t sit down with any Jew except for the useful idiot Kapos
To "Anoichee DIN Eloikecha?"
It's obvious that you are an עם הארץ מדוארייתא
You scribble:
"He was not punished for learning. He was punished to make a point about Kibud Av voAme that his yeshiva was so far away that it precluded him from having any shaychus with his parents"
So it seems that you agree with me that Yaakov WAS in fact punished for learning! It seems that a Mitzvah De'Oriisah trumps learning, otherwise he would not have been punished for being away!
I'll give another Mitzvah De'Orissah that trumps learning.... you ready?
לא תעמוד על דם רעך אני ה'
Look at Rashi:
לראות במיתתו ואתה יכול להצילו כגון טובע בנהר וחיה או לסטים באים עליו
On oct 7 and on every Jew of military age had a Torah obligation to save his brothers and sisters in the south! Every single one!
אני ה
Rashi:
נאמן לשלם שכר ונאמן ליפרע
Hashem is going to pay back those guys who stood by claiming that תורה מגנא ומצלא
I know that they the learners don't really believe that Torah saves and protects, because it didn't take too long when they slammed their gemarras shut for Bein Hazmanim! If they trult believed that, how could they stop learning even for a day?
To "Anoichee DIN Eloikecha?"
I live in Israel and I can tell you first hand that FRUM Israelis are furious with Hofstedder for sticking his big nose where it doesn't belong!
RDH should be denied access to Israel! He should be tried for treason, undermining a duly elected government with his sneaky blabbering with the incoming US Ambassador to influence him to pressure the Israeli government so that healthy strong young avreicim and bochrim should sit and do nothing to help in this war od survival!
Shame on him!!
זו תורה וזו שכרה
במקום חילול השם אין חולקין כבוד לרב
Regular people even of the same alter doros would never be punished for the same things that the Avos & other frierdik major gedolim were punished for. Sorry that this klal gadol doesn't fit with your Gung Ho cheerleading for the secular Zionist military. When a 1990s Bobover meidelah was lost in a New England forest there was a chiyuv to look for her. But that didn't mean that every elderly rosh yeshiva had to shlep to the CT-MA border and start trudging through mud & brush. It didn't even mean that every able bodied yeshiva bucher had to report there. Guess what? From the hordes of bucherim who packed chartered buses from Brooklyn & Lakewood, the State Police wouldn't even let them off the buses because there were already more than enough volunteers
To Chut Hasaara
I bought you pesukim from the Torah and you bring me a "maaseh" from a Bobover Maidele!
What happened on October 7 is a not the same as a single maidele lost in a forest! Are you insane?
We are still losing Jewish children in Uniform every day and you are bringing me a story of a lost girl on the CT-MA border?
Also I said "military age" I didn't say to drag an old Rosh Yeshiva
Even though that's what chareidim actually did to fight what they called a "Milchamas mitzvah" in Beit Shemesh!
And what was the "Milachemes Mitzvah?"
An election for Mayor where two FRUM candidates ran against each other
they proceeded to drag Rav Landau with his walker from Bnei_brak to Beit Shemesh where Rav Landay said that this was a "Milchemes Mitzvah" and ordered Yeshivos closed for those eligible to vote and ordered those bochrim who lived in Beit Shemesh but learned in Bnei-Brak or Yerushalayim to be bussed in to vote!
So what do we learn from this story?
Thats its ok to drag old Rosh Yeshivas with their walkers to support a "milchemes mitzvah" and to close gemmarras to vote.
Yet when Arabs rape, mutilate murder, and burn live babies and kidnap Jews ... they "kler" whether this is a "Milchemes Mitzvah"
the hypocrisy is very sick and perverted!
This was "taakeh" not a milchemes mitzvah" this was a war for the survival of the Jewish people where everyone, yes everyone must fight....
Shevet Levi, Shevet Yissacher, Leviim and even old Roshei Yeshivas in the walkers!
Another important point
You bring a maaseh of a lost girl yet I'm bringing you a maaseh where thousands were murdered only because they are Jewish! And the war is still on, and the those Roshe Yeshiva that call a local mayoral election a "milchemes mitzvah" but tell their naive students not to fight is a sign of the immorality taught in Yeshiva and the only hope is that Hashem bring Moshiach!
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