Wednesday, November 1, 2017

Hormone suppressants for yeshiva students with smartphones?


Zev Farber is a fellow for Project TABS and the editor of its website, TheTorah.com. He holds a Ph.D. from Emory University in Jewish Studies and Hebrew Bible, an M.A. from Hebrew University in Jewish History (Biblical Period), and ordination (yoreh and yadin) from YCT Rabbinical School. He is the editor of Halakhic Realities: Collected Essays on Brain Death and the author of Images of Joshua in the Bible and Their Reception.


by Zev Farber
Recently, Amnon Levi, the host of Panim Amitiyot (True Faces), did a segment on a young man named Pini Landau, who recently left the Gerrer Hasidim. The segment was called “Castration among Hasidim” (sirus be-hasidut). The story is as simple as it is problematic. Pini Landau was a 20-year-old Gerrer Hasid who lived in a yeshiva dormitory in Arad, in which many things that the average western person — secular or religious — finds normal are forbidden. One of these things is a smart phone.

According to Pini’s explanation, the assumption is that if a young man has internet access, it is guaranteed that he will use it to watch pornography. Pini had previously been caught with a cellphone, so he was considered a repeat offender. Thus, he was presented with a choice, either to be kicked out of the yeshiva or take medication that would make him stop behaving wickedly.


Pini was already taking a number of medications: Methylphenidate (for ADHD), Risperidone(an antipsychotic) and Sertraline (an antidepressant), so the idea of taking medication wasn’t particularly frightening to him, and he agreed. The medication that they wanted him to take was Decapeptyl SR (triptorelin), which is a Gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonist (GnRH–A). What that means in simple English is that it is a hormone suppressor. In women, it suppresses estrogen, in men, testosterone.

Hormone Suppressants
The drug has many medical uses for people with different needs. It is used by women going through in vitro fertilization to help control ovulation. It is used to treat prostate cancer (prostate tumors feed on testosterone). It is used to block puberty in children with precocious (=early) puberty and in children with gender-dysphoria (to give them time to mature and think about what they really want). Male-to-female transsexuals take the drug to suppress masculine traits.
It is also given to sex offenders; without testosterone, sexual desire in men plummets to virtually non-existent, so in some states and countries, rapists or pedophiles are offered reduced sentences in exchange for an agreement to take the drug.
In addition to suppressing sexual desire in men, it also brings about a number of body adjustments that give the man female secondary sexual characteristics such as breasts. This is only one of the many unfortunate side effects of the drug, others include osteoporosis, severe weight gain especially in the abdominal area (in medical terms, “increased visceral adiposity”), impaired glucose tolerance, abnormal amounts of lipids in the blood (dyslipidemia), and emotional disturbances. It is counter-indicated for people with depression, and in general, anyone taking the medication has to be seen regularly by a doctor to monitor the side effects and make sure the patient is healthy and safe.
All of the above information is easily found on the internet, to which Pini had no access once they took his smart phone. It is also something that should have been explained to him by his doctor.
A Doctor’s Role
The doctor to whom the yeshiva referred Pini is a psychiatrist in the Haredi community named Michael Bontzel, an American immigrant who has been the physician of choice for the Gerrer community for ten years. Before sitting in his office, Pini was coached by the yeshiva’s powers that be about what to say.
He could not go into a doctor’s office and say that he wanted to take hormone suppressant medication because he bought a smart phone. What could the doctor write in his notes to defend such a thing? So Pini needed to say something along the lines of, “I am haunted by desires that are hurting my quality of life. I just want these thoughts to go away.”
On the face of it, such a request sounds “reasonable.” Perhaps the young man has obsessive tendencies that are torturing him or desires that could lead him to put others in harm’s way. But the doctor could also wonder about the more likely alternative, that this could be a rehearsed and curated cover story that the boy was being forced to recite to get the drugs his teachers and administrators wanted him to take.
What the Doctor Should Have Said
The decision to give a 20-year-old boy a GnRH–A is serious,[1] and the fact that this doctor was so familiar with the Ger community means that he must know the kind of pressures that can be brought to bear on such a boy to stop him from “sinning.”
In my view, he needed to have a candid and private conversation with Pini, and say the following:
Young man, it is, of course, your right to ask for this medication but first we need to clear the air. As this drug will entirely suppress your sexual drive and has painful side effects, including the possible growth of breasts, the loss of bone material, and extreme weight gain, we need to be sure that this treatment is what you need.
The drug is generally used on sex-offenders, people whose desires urge them to do terrible things. Is this what you are going through? Because here is what I am worried about: You are a single, ostensibly celibate twenty-year-old man. Any normal man in your situation has sexual fantasies. Many masturbate or have sexual partners, some even watch pornography or visit prostitutes.
It may be that these behaviors are religiously prohibited in our world, but they are not abnormal, psychologically speaking. And it is very questionable for me as a doctor to prescribe medication that isn’t medically indicated.
Do you want to tell me a little more about what you are going through? Are you really sure that suppressing your sex drive entirely and risking all those side effects is really what you want?
Perhaps at that point, Pini would have told him that he his yeshiva was forcing him to ask for the drug because he bought a smart phone. Perhaps Pini would have withdrawn his request at this point and said that this was too high a price to pay to stay in yeshiva. But the doctor did not give this speech; he merely prescribed the meds and Pini took them and suffered.
Willful Blindness and Legal Cover
The doctor seems to have been willfully blind to the situation. When Pini confronted him in the segment and asked him how he could have prescribed him those meds, the doctor’s response was to repeat in a mantra-like form, “you were twenty years old and legally responsible for your own actions.” Yes, this is likely true in a narrow legal sense, but this sounds more like legal cover than a real response.
In Charles Dickens’ Great Expectations, the main character named Pip needs to speak to his lawyer Mr. Jaggers about his (Jaggers’) client named Abel Magwitch, who had been exiled to Australia but was now illegally back in England.
The moment Pip mentions to Jaggers that he spoke with Magwitch, Jaggers replies that he (Pip) must mean that he corresponded with Magwitch “of New South Wales” Australia, not that he spoke with him, since Magwitch isn’t in England (returning to England after exile being a death penalty offense).
Throughout the conversation, every time Jaggers mentions Magwitch, he adds the phrase “of New South Wales.” He is doing this because he knows full well that Magwitch is in England; Jaggers is overcompensating to cover himself.
To me, Dr. Bontzel’s “you were a legal adult” sounds an awful lot like Magwitch’s “of New South Wales.”
Stopping Medical Abuse of Yeshiva Bachurs
Looking to the future, it is clear that we have a problem in the world of Gerrer Hasidim and perhaps even in more yeshivot. Young men are being medicated as a crutch to help these authority figures control their behavior. According to the segment, Pini’s case is just one example of a pervasive phenomenon that has likely been foisted on hundreds of young men in Pini’s situation for years, maybe even decades.
If it wasn’t obvious to doctors that the vast majority of yeshiva bachurs asking for hormone suppressants are examples of spurious use, forced on these boys by the undue persuasive power of the authority figures in that world, it should be now. And thus, as a society, it is incumbent upon us to stop this “medical abuse,” and doctors need to be extra cautious about yeshiva bachurs showing up asking for hormone suppressants.
No yeshiva should be allowed to pressure young men to medicate themselves as a way of ensuring that these boys comply with the community’s strict religious norms. This is abusive behavior and should be identified as such in our statutes. Moreover, we need to ask ourselves if doctors who are colluding with this behavior, whether for ideological reasons or financial gain, should be allowed to continue practicing medicine here.
[1] On one point, I have a serious quibble with Amnon Levi’s presentation. When he was interviewing Dr. Tzahi ben Tziyon, the doctor explained how the drug works by suppressing testosterone. Dr. Ben Tziyon explained that it was called “chemical castration” once because both procedures shut down testosterone production. Never did he imply that the effects are permanent, like castration. Yet, Amnon Levi kept responding by saying that “so they are essentially castrating him.” I feel that he was being willfully obtuse in order to use a sensationalist term “castration” that brings up the horrible image of permanent loss of libido, impotence, and even sterilization. As Pini complains of loss of libido even eight months after taking the drug, this could be a possible side effect. Nevertheless, permanent or even long term loss of libido is certainly not the medical function of the drug or a normal effect of it. And yet, the title of the segment is “Castration among Hasidim.” I worry that the Ger community and its doctors will grab hold of this unfortunate description and call “witch hunt.” It is never good to turn a horrible behavior into a monstrous behavior for rhetorical reasons. It is distracting, and as the Rabbis say “if you grab too much you get nothing” (תפשת מרובה לא תפשת).

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just get a Mohel to take a little more off. Easy Peazy.

Chafraud-Depravitch said...

Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Haredim

jancsibacsi said...

This is unbeleivable,the level of depravity theese ultra religious fanatics stoop to thrir rebbes and the followers are a bunch degenerate lowlifes.

AishKodesh said...

Not necessarily Chafraud. Some Chareidim are Tzaddikim.... Just like some Modernishe people are if you wish to speak so....

Chafraud-Depravitch said...

Aish,

"Some Chareidim are Tzaddikim"

WTF are tzaddikim? Not sure I've ever met one, but often erroneously believed I did.

I know some very strictly observant, even excessively observant, who are kind people. But you know, they would be kind people anyway, even if not religious... even if not Jewish. Torah doesn't do jack-sh!t for a person's character. But people with good character can use Torah in a positive way.

The haredim in this story are sick and twisted cultists. Extremists.
Better to drink pork milkshakes daily than be one of those freaks.

Ultra-religious is ultra-stupid. That's why I pulled one child out of a haredi school already (with the promise I'd buy him a smartphone if he agreed to leave). You know what happened after that? He became a happy child... no more teen fog of depression, no more sick school hours, and no more blame on my family for my child's unhappiness from haredi jerks. I also had a very serious sex-ed talk with him and let him know that the haredi scare tactics he was taught were complete BS.

Anyway, I suspect you're not very familiar with non-Jewish music. So you probably missed the humor in my comment above.

Anonymous said...

looks like someone is out to smear Gur and drugs. these are bullshit stories

AishKodesh said...

The truth, however, Chafraud, is that that is not true. For example, people often think I am a sort of kind person (though I have a long way to go in truth), but do you know how many Yetzer Hara's I have to silence to try to be kind or to follow Hashem? By nature, I have many terrible and strong Yetzer Hara's! (I'm sure we all do). But how and why do I try to stop them? Because Hashem and His Torah says so... If I wasn't a Frum Yid and hadn't been taught the truth and the proper way of Life, I wouldn't act that way either....

Chafraud-Depravitch said...

Aish,

Allow me to modify my comment: Torah doesn't do jack-sh!t for a person's character. To: Torah doesn't do jack-sh!t for a person's character who doesn't CHOOSE to apply it for goodness.
The sick cult discussed above is proof of that. They don't care about God's creation, the Earth, and the souls on it. They care about power and control. And a scroll on two sticks isn't going to change that.

Religion is your crutch... Torah, your guide book so to speak.
You use it as such because you have chosen to do so. It's an inherent goodness with which YOU apply the tools given to you, a reflection of your already existing character that wants to do good. Many with the same Torah and dogma don't use it as you do.

You choose to use it as such. The Torah does not 'make' you do it.
I know non-Jews who are no doubt better, kinder, more compassionate people than many of the most religious Jews. And I know very religious, ritualistic, self-righteous, self-serving Jews who are simply the cr@p of humanity (and obviously it works visa-versa as well).

It's called free will. The bottom line is that your behavior is your CHOICE.
And the Torah agrees with me on this one.

AishKodesh said...

Yes, that's abstolutely true that we have free will and a person could learn all day and be a Rasha! (Although they would still be doing a Mitzvah all day, they might still treat others badly, etc. CH"V.)

So yeah, Torah naturally helps us to be better -- but if, CH"V, we do not choose to take it to heart, we might just end up a "Frum" Rasha, CH"V and R"L. You are right. (Not about the insults or anything, but your overall point :))

Anonymous said...

You are such an ignorant a$$ hole pretending to be a frummie
I DARE you to post your real name Harav Tuches Fartz

AishKodesh said...

My name is Refoel Berel (and perhaps you will see the last name on my book, IY"H, when it comes out).

Anonymous said...

You are such an ignorant a$$ hole pretending to be a frummie
I DARE you to post your real name Harav Tuches Fartz