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Tuesday, November 28, 2017

Menachem Begin on keeping Shabbas

38 comments:

Anonymous said...

M.B. like all Zionist pigs was NOT a Shomer Shabbos at all, you bastards have no shame to lie and falsify facts the same way as adding a yarmulke on the picture of the mad-dog herzl YM"S

Dusiznies said...

11:41
Your Rebbe "Herr Goebles" once said that if you repeat a lie often enough ...people will believe it"
Only a guy whose parents were eating bar-b-q chicken in the comfort of the US while European Jews were been shoved into the ovens, would talk like that...

PMB said...

Menachem Begin delivered an amazing, awe-inspiring, impassioned speech to the Knesset with regard to the decision not to have ElAL fly on Shabbat. Please read The Prime Minsters for more details.

Satmar but with Brains said...

I do not believe for one moment that 11:41 comes from a heimeshe background .... sounds like a modern guy who turned Yeshivash .... no heimishe guy be he even Satmar, writes with such vulgar hate as this mamzer ben nida ...
To call a guy whose responsible for a State that houses over 6 million Jews .... YM"S ... is going straight to hell ... and there isn't a hell hot or cold enough for this guy ..... I'll bet he learned in the State of Israel and like the Arabs has come to hate her instead of having hakoras hatoiv!
I'm sure he benefited from the Zionist infrastructure, yet like Eisav in this week's parsha he spits into the face that fed him ....
Nice going 11:41 .....

Anonymous said...

I am absolutely convinced that over there in the OLAM HAEMES,it is Reb Yoilish
who is wishing he would be trading places with Menachem Begin z"L.
The contrast between these two couldn't be bigger.

Reb Yoilish, while telling everyone not to escape to Palestine when they were able to,he himself abandoned his flock like a rat from a sinking ship at the first chance he was able to, and was saved by the Zionists on that famous Kastner train,of course he never had the decency to mention a thank you even once in his life.of course his thank you was the poisonous hate towards Medinas Yisroel he brainwashed tens of thousands of his ignorant followers.
All the while Menachem Begin of blessed memory escaped to Palestine during the war,and literally threw himself into the fight and was ready to give up his life to liberate his land from the British swines,and BARUCH HASHEM he was successful.in the meantime.

now you tell me who is in a better place in the OLAM HAEMES

FRUM BUT NORMAL

Anonymous said...

@1.56pm Has your Satmar Rebbe suckked his dog off yet today?
Hopefully today's the day you get the shit kicked out of you. Pathetic little infant.

Anonymous said...

Also remember when Begin A"H when he was at the funeral of Sadat, walked instead of riding on Shabbas.

Anonymous said...

He's from a heimishe background who later attended a Litvishe yeshiva which licked Satmar asses and was brainwashed. Probably his family lived for awhile in Israel and made YERIDAH with complaints.

Anonymous said...

Your Rebbe "Herr Goebles" once said that if you repeat a lie often enough ...people will believe it"
Your Rebbe the ריי"ץ of lubavitch is the one who said it (actually very similar to that) and because of that you call him "herr Goebbels"?
And I'm the liar, M.B was a Shomer Shabbos like herzl YM"S was wearing a yarmulke and kept Shabbos

Anonymous said...

you don't like Herzl because he didn't wear a yarmulke and didn't keep Shabbos, and you also don't like the Rebbe even though he did keep Shabbos and wore a yarmulke.
Please renew your expired meds ASAP.

Anonymous said...

Anybody know theodore Herzl's shittah?

This is an undisputed fact: his vision for klal yisrael was for all yidden to convert and assimilate, and leave him a and a few others Jewish, as the caretakers of the "people"

Better for the entire klal Israel to die in the holocaust than for every single yid to convert to Christianity.

Neither would ever happen, as there will always be a sheiris yisrael.

Dusiznies said...

7:48
You ask:
"Anybody know theodore Herzl's shittah?"

Well it's obvious that you don't!
Theodore Herzl z"l was very upset about the anti-Semitism that he saw all around him and especially at the Alfred Drefus trial..... being an assimilated Jew, he naively thought that if he could get Jews to convert than anti-Semitism would disappear, but after finding out that Jews would never convert, he proposed a State for Jews .....
Gedoioi Yisroel actually backed his plan including the well known Netziv! Rabbi Mohilewer of Byelostock and top talmidim of R'Akivah Eiger, one being Rabbi Eliyahu Gutmacher who actually has Kibbutz Sdei Eliyahu named after him backed the idea of a State!

For a "Jew" to state that

"Better for the entire klal Israel to die in the holocaust than for every single yid to convert to Christianity"

is very sick statement and can only come from a Jew whose grandparents dined on pig's feet in the US while our grandparents were being shoved into the ovens!

Herzel's Zionist followers actually saved the Satmar Rebbe, who absconded leaving his devoted flock to be raped and murdered .....


Satmar but with Brains said...

7:48
Your very sick demented statement that ""Better for the entire klal Israel to die in the holocaust than for every single yid to convert to Christianity"
leaves me with a question
What the hell are you still living in the USA where the assimilation is over 95%?
Why dont you live in Herzl's State where the assimilation rate is close to zero?
I wish you on this Chanukah Season everything that you wish the Zionists!

Anonymous said...

The Herzl liars are at it again, his assimilation and conversion was very, very early in his life, and changed his mind where he wrote lashana haba beyurashalim at the end of book and spoke it at Zionist convention. He died too young and was on his way to acceptance of more Yiddish keit,he was the force behind getting Jews out of enemy murderous countries, and how many of the other side , with few exceptions, did the same/ he was one of the greats of the last 200 years, and revered by thousands of religious Jews until the the malicious 'heads of state" began to smear him, so that ordinary Jews were afaraid to speak out. Thank the Almighty that he was wildly successful. USA is in decline and State of Israel is on the rise, B"H.

Anonymous said...

You responders to this piece of garbage is baffling. Instead of answering on each of his mouse manure , just ignore it once and for all.
All you have to say is**************** Israel is here, Israel had the best tourist season ever, mostly from Christians, Israel is attracting new olim every day, Israel is the biggest Torah country in he world and G-D has returned to Israel.
Laugh in this fecal face whenever he poops his shit. Ignore him already, it soeasn't matter what he or Satmar or the others poop, they're in shock because they know the truth, enough already

Anonymous said...

this demented guy's parents, I'm pretty sure now, were kapos in WWII, escaped to Israel for a few years, settled in B"klyn, harbored hate which they passed on to this This ibum. Check out his mother's lifeline

AishKodesh said...

Why the need to fight? If things like the Holocaust can happen, we must be even stronger from within the Klal. No room for fighting like this, indeed.

Chafraud-Depravitch said...

When I was a new BT I thought Orthodox Judaism would be a panacea leading to wholesomeness and contentment for my family.
I was raised secular (mostly, not entirely).
But there was always an acknowledgement that God was real.
And there was always a connection, love, and respect for Israel and those who gave their lives to rebuild it as a Jewish homeland.

Years later, ignoramus BT that I was, I never imagined that there were so-called religious Jews who held such hatred for the state and land that is synonymous with our heritage.

I was shocked to realize that Lubavitch talks about the "land of Israel" but never the "state of Israel." Their opinion of the state (I later realized) was quite dependent on the feelings of their biggest financial donor. They fence sit, flip-flop, and remain ambiguous about their theological beliefs regarding the the state in order to appeal to donors.

But the open HATRED for the state of Israel that comes from Satmar is mind-boggling and disgusting. Truly something else. I don't want to believe it, but I can't deny it. There are really those who would prefer the death of Jews rather than reexamine their own stupid-ass theology.

God is truly the ultimate greatness. Religion... it's mostly a pretty crappy human invention.



AishKodesh said...

Religion itself is not, C"V bad. Rather, unfortunately, there are some RELIGOUS PEOPLE who aren't so good, Rachmana Litzlan...

Anonymous said...

Reason why Chabad sits on fence has little to do with money, rather because the line of previous Chabad rabbis were vehemently opposed to Zionism, but Rabbi Scneerson warmed up, invited Israeli leaders to visit with him, encouraged them, and communicated warmly with them. But he never came out to officially endorse the State, so that's why his disciples are on the fence.

Chafraud-Depravitch said...

8:07 PM,

I agree regarding the opinions of their Rebbes. But it says a lot that over 23 years later the current batch of opportunists (ie shluchim) can't take a stand one way or the other because there is nobody to decide for them. Yet they are preaching "support for the land of" Israel in an ambiguous way which is designed to appeal to both Zionists and anti-Zionists in their midst by the omission of information. Why would they want to appeal to both sides? I believe one of the primary reasons is to meet their constant need for money. They are a business. And businesses have to appeal to customers.

I think that ambiguity, leaving the observer to decide (or figure out) what a Lubavitcher's opinion is, rather than the Lubavitcher stating their opinion, is especially dishonest.

The same ambiguous behavior is present (and even more covert) when the topic is Rebbe messianism. And that is very much more an issue of which stating their opinion can affect their finances.

But you make an incredibly good point that they rely heavily on the opinion of a Rebbe that can't express one anymore.

Incompetent decision makers (real rabbis make decisions), but financially convenient.


Aish,

God is real. Torah, as much as I've wanted to believe, I'm certainly entertaining doubt (as I've even seen some haredim do).
Religion is a man made belief system accompanied with specified practices. It's prone to extremism. And the more extreme it gets, the crappier it is. And that applies to ALL religions. Islam makes this most obvious. But we're no less prone to it. When Satmar shaves the heads of their married women and wants to see the fall of a brilliant, productive state on theological grounds, that's sick. When Neturei Karta can embrace a fanatic who wants to wipe Israel off the map, again, on theological grounds, that's uber-sick.

Many religious values are in fact quite good, when tempered with common sense. But that common sense is too often lost in the name of religion, rendering it a mostly crappy human invention.


AishKodesh said...

C_D, What has happened to you, my dear brother? You talk differently now and not in a good way... The Torah is straight from Hashem and if you believe in Him, then you should believe in His Heilige Torah. It IS our religion (as well as the Torah She'Baal Peh).

Perhaps we can talk privately via email if you would like. aishkodesh611@gmail.com

Chafraud-Depravitch said...

Aish,

Thank you. You're always such a mensch.
It's a time of some real soul searching and some reevaluation of what I believed was true. I've seen a lot of corruption and dishonesty that I didn't believe possible when I signed up for this. So I find Torah She'Baal Peh dubious because I know criminality and malfeasance can't be a new phenomena in Judaism. If our leaders lie now, who's to say they didn't do so then? And from there, it all falls apart like a cheap suit. And written law can't stand on its own.

A lot of the anger that comes thorough in my posts comes from a lot of hurt; my own and what I see my family go through. I don't discuss that much because I don't need to be belittled for it (which I expect).

Sometimes I love the religious life we've built. And other times I hate it and want to forget it ever happened to pursue a far, far happier life. I'm sure I'm not the first man to ever face such conflicts.

All I can solidly hang onto is God. I just believe in God, but can't believe in those who claim to speak for Him anymore. I just see too much bad craziness. It's a lot of work to sort out... find some peace of mind through the mess of Jewish life.

I'm sorry for my own ambiguity. I just can't share a lot of specifics. Thanks for caring. Maybe we'll chat sometime.

AishKodesh said...

I hope we will speak sometime, mein teire bruder. I really like you as a person and feel bad that you have had to go through the harsh things that you have gone through. To which extent, I have no idea. I can't feel your pain because it is yours. But my hope is that I can help somewhat to alleviate it, B'Ezras Hashem.

Always remember, though, that you are stronger than the Yetzer Hara. But when he cannot beat you, what does he often do? He strikes 'the ball of your thighbone'. This is most likely the hip-bone. And the sefer Orchos Tzaddikim says that the hip-bone represents the foundation. The Yetzer Hara tries to strike at a person's foundation, i.e. their Emunah. He tries to give them questions in their Emunah. But this too you can -- and will, B'Ezras Hashem, overcome.

Kol Tuv, Tzaddik!

Anonymous said...

I posted the comment about better for all jews to die rather than convert.

I am Zionist myself, not chasididsh at all, my grandparents ran from the Nazis. I still say, better to all die then convert, and that's the Torah' s shittah as well. Yaharog vial favor. Take it up with that Torah you self haters and ignoramuses.

Just because I don't like Herzl doesn't mean I don't love eretz Israel, i do. doesn't mean i hate the army, i love the army. They protect us from being murdered by the yishmaelim.

Fucking regardless, Herzl was happy to remove yiddishkeit from the face of the planet, to protect the physical bodies of world Jewry.

So I think he is evil, making absolutely no impact on my opinion of eretz yisrael, the land I love.

Anonymous said...

In addition, I'm imagining this conversation happening during the time when the Greeks wanted to stop us from keeping all mitzvos. Chanukah time.
I can imagine it to be something like this: reuven : "the Greeks want to stop us from keeping the torah!

Shimon: the Greeks don't want to kill us though, only if we don't listen. Let's leave the Torah and live!

Reuven: the Torah says to die rather than agree to convert, and in the time of decrees against klal yisrael, we should die even for one mitzvah that they want us to Reneg on! Maybe we should be killed rather than leave the torah??

Shimon: only someone whose grandparents weren't murdered in churban bayis rishon would say that. Your parents were probably eating all the good stuff, while our grandparents were killed! Get with the program, abandon the mitzvos, we need to survive! Don't be so archaic!"
Reuven: "now you are sounding like one of the misyavnim!"

(Would anyone here say that the hellenists and misyavnim were right?)

Don't sing maoz tzur when you light chanuka licht if you don't believe what you are saying.

Anonymous said...

Fucking regardless, if not for Herzl and Zionists there would be no eretz yisroel, fucking moron

Anonymous said...

Just like someone posted about you, your parents were survivors, you were brainwashed and you lie about loving Israel, in fact you're the scumbag tht always attacks Israel, take your meds , moron.

Anonymous said...

Many rabbis supported Herzl, and Rav Shlomo Hakohen of Wilnius, publicly pronounced the priestly blessing over him.( Israel Cohen, History of the Jews in Vilna)
The liar above, is so obsessed with yaerg val yavor, but he doesn't give a damn about using foul disgusting language while at the same time transgressing val yaarog ban on the Internet. Typical stinking hypocrite and "Yishmael" lover..

Anonymous said...

Your Chanukah play is stupid. Hellenists were unsuccessful and the Zionists were very, very successful, so eat shit fucking moron.

Anonymous said...

I am Zionist myself, _________________________________________________________________

this is your new tactic when all else failed, lol.

AishKodesh said...

Do we have to use such strong language, my dear friends?

Anonymous said...

by answering this punk you're empowering him, just don't respond to his poop ,you're wasting your time.

Anonymous said...

You're correct about Rav Hakohen, my grandfather was from Vilna and he told me the story. Rav Hakohen was the chief dayan there. Hertzl also met with the rabbanim of Sadigura and Chortkov among others.

Olrighty said...

Ok, I gave myself a name. This is the only time I posted anything on this blog, I'm not chassidish, im not satmar, im not anyone youve ever met before, or commented before.

Olrighty said...

Aishkodesh, unless you are rav Weinberg, change your name

AishKodesh said...

I am not Rav Weinberger shlit"a and have never even been to his wonderful Shul, however, I have very strong feelings and connection to an 'Aish Kodesh' which is the holy passion and fire for Avodas Hashem we are supposed to kindle within ourselves.

We all have that Inner Spark -- but it is up to us to turn it into a roaring Aish Kodesh.

Please forgive me, but I don't think I will change my name on here as of yet.

Anonymous said...

Olrighty unless youre really ollright, change your name