Against the backdrop of mounting tension over Israel’s draft law and growing anxiety about the future of the Torah world, a new framework has been put forward that aims to defuse the crisis. The initiative is being advanced by the Rav Dovid Leibel, president of the Achvas Torah communities, together with the Stoliner Rebbe.
The emerging plan is designed to extricate the chareidi public from what supporters describe as a legal and political deadlock, while preserving the foundational principle of Toraso umnaso. Its architects argue that the current impasse stems from a lack of clear differentiation between full time yeshiva students and those who are formally registered but do not actually learn.
At the heart of the proposal is a rejection of any system of enlistment quotas or numerical targets. According to the plan, no fixed draft goals would be imposed on the yeshiva world, thereby shielding bona fide Torah learners from sanctions or coercive measures.
In parallel, the framework calls for what is described as airtight and meaningful oversight. Under this model, military authorities would conduct thorough and consistent verification to ensure that anyone listed as a yeshiva student is indeed attending and learning on a regular basis.
Those found not to meet the criteria of Toraso umnaso—and who also do not enlist—would face firm consequences. The proposal envisions enhanced enforcement, including significant economic penalties and additional sanctions, directed specifically at individuals who are neither learning nor serving.
Proponents of the initiative say its logic is straightforward:
there is no realistic way to defend draft evasion by individuals who are not part of the yeshiva system in practice. They contend that genuine enforcement would remove thousands of non-learning registrants from the rolls, thereby addressing the army’s manpower needs without harming authentic yeshiva students.
The outline has already drawn notable interest from reserve soldiers’ organizations as well as figures within the Religious Zionist community, who view it as a practical avenue for increasing enlistment among those not engaged in full-time Torah study, while leaving the core of the Torah world intact.
6 comments:
Will they come out on a lower level of observance? if they do its not worth it. we all know the courts and military want shmad and nothing less,
we all know less that 50% of dati leumi soldiers going to the army shomer shabbos leave shomer shabbos.
we also even those who survive spiritually have terrible nisyonos in all areas of yiddishkeit in the army.
This is a trap.
As soon as they agree to this, the basis of all future negotiations will be this.
They should say no as loudly as they can.
More bovine faeces. Every boy will be registered at a yeshiva. The "inspectors" will be chosen from the Chareidi community and will discover that there are, in fact, no boys who aren't Toraso umanuso. What an amazing thing! We'd send you the boys who aren't learning but they all are! Wink wink
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They will come out not lower in observance than the thousands of Lakewood and Monroe OTDs!
The difference is that at least when they are in the army they are protecting Klall Yisrael!
Your 50% statistics that "dati leumi soldiers going to the army shomer shabbos leave shomer shabbos."
you made that up, didn't you?
Your even dumber comment that:
"we also even those who survive spiritually have terrible nisyonos in all areas of yiddishkeit in the army."
is not only false but this is Chardeie talking points that have been proven time and again as being totally fabricated!
You have the Nisyonis when taking a bus!
I see the Chardeie protestors enjoying when the female Chaylot grab them !
In life we have nisyonos, and bochrim of eligible age must enlist, this is our country, it's not perfect but its ours!
?האחיכם יבוא למלחמה ואתם תשבו פה
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Yes it is a trap but a good one so these bochrim not be oiver an issur De'oriiseh of
לא תעמוד על דם רעך
Garnel: You are obviously not familiar with the two rabbanim associated with this proposal. They both advocate chareidim serving in the army. Educate yourself before offering uninformed comments.
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