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Sunday, December 14, 2025

The Satmar Opposition to the Daf Yoimie

 

In the above video R' Eli Stefansky reads an email from a Satmar chusid who says that the Satmar SHIT'ah is against Jews learning the Daf! 

I've written many times about this and I still cannot wrap my head around this!

 Rav Meir Shapiro stands before the Congress. His proposal: one page of Gemara a day, studied by Jews everywhere.

Until then, only a few tractates were learned regularly — Berachot, Shabbat, Eruvin. Others, like Zevachim and Temurah, were ignored. Rav Shapiro’s vision was bold: every Jew, every tractate, every day.

On Elul 10, 5683, the resolution passed. A new era began. Daf Yomi wasn’t just about study. It was about unity. As Rav Shapiro told the delegates: one people, one page, one heartbeat.

What a great thing! A Jew travels by boat and takes gemara Berachot under his arm. He travels for 15 days from Eretz Yisrael to America, and each day he learns the daf. When he arrives in America, he enters a beis medrash in New York and finds Jews learning the very same daf that he studied on that day, and he gladly joins them. Another Jew leaves the States and travels to Brazil or Japan, and he first goes to the beis medrash, where he finds everyone learning the same daf that he himself learned that day. Could there be greater unity of hearts than this?

R’ Meir’s idea was greeted by the six hundred delegates present at the Knessiya with a standing ovation, later described by the Bluzhever Rebbe in the Artscroll book Five Great Leaders as similar to Ma’amad Har Sinai and by the Chofetz Chaim as something that “would hasten the coming of Mashiach.”

The first Daf Yomi cycle began on Rosh Hashana of 5684, which coincided with September 11, 1923. The Gerrer Rebbe was just one of the tens of thousands in Europe, Israel and America who took upon himself to learn Daf Yomi and his many followers hastened to follow his lead.

All this is true except if you dare walk into a Reform Temple or a Satmar Bais Medrish! 

R' Yoel Teitelbaum, the founder of Satmar Chassidius opposed learning the Daf Yoimie because this idea originated from Harav Meir Shapiro a member of the Agudah! Even though this was a way to "unify the Jewish people" the Satmar Rebbe would have nothing to do with that!

Why? 

Because the proposal was made by the Aguda!! 

A frum Jew a leader of tens of thousands was against this idea, was against unity! 

I cannot understand this at all. 



19 comments:

Alter Mirrer said...

There were many gedolim who didn’t agree with Daf Yomi, no shaychus to Satmar’s cheshbon. They included the gadol hador R’ Chaim Oizer, Brisk, the Mir, etc

Garnel Ironheart said...

When you think you're the King of the Jews(tm) and the smartest guy ever, another guy coming up with a great idea pisses you off.

Dusiznies said...

Alter Bucher fin de'Mir 7:00 PM
The Gedoilim that you quoted didn't agree with the Daf Yoimi because it didn't fit their learning style, which was bekias and had nothing to do with ideological reasons like Satmar!
Satmar, on the other hand, wanted nothing to do with unity!
My first Daf Yoimi experience was actually with a Satmerer! And he made sure to always be a few blatt behind. When I pointed out the absurdity of this, he just laughed!
The Daf Yoimi has now been accepted by ALL of Klall Yisrael except for Satmar and the Reform Jews! Even Women now have Daf Yoimi groups, in fact there is a woman that gives a daf Yoimi online and let me tell you, she gives men a run for the money!
There isn't a frum shul that doesn't have someone give a Daf Yoimi Shiur, again except in Satmar !

Stop the double standard said...

Your Habad Lubavitch set buddies have also been against Daf Yomi. I challenge you to show me even one time a Chabad Rebbe spoke in favor of Daf Yomi. Somehow you conveniently totally omit that in your zeal to attack Satmar.

Dusiznies said...

Double Bubble
When I lived in Flatbush in the 90's the one who gave the Daf Yomi in Landau's Shul on Avenue L was a Lubavitcher!
In Beit Shemesh there are two Chabad shuls and both have Daf Yomi's given by Chabadskers!
Chabad was not “against” Daf Yomi, but historically, the Lubavitcher Rebbes did not adopt it as a communal practice. They emphasized a different style of Torah study, focusing on depth and personal accountability rather than a fixed daily page. Chabad individuals do learn Daf Yomi, but it was never promoted as an official Chabad program whereas in Satmar it was because of their screwed up apikorsheta ideology

Dusiznies said...

Double Bubble
Chabad Rebbis also were never ispoke n favor of Strawberry Ice Cream yet I know many Chabadskers that eat only Strawberry Ice-Cream...so there!

Anonymous said...

Pshtetlech, pshetlech. Fact is that Chabad Lubavitch, like Satmar, goes their own way. They are both not part of Agudah.

Anonymous said...

Since i attended Landau shul for many years and dont recall a Lubavitcher saying the daf, im quite sure you are mixing up Rabbi Weichbrod, who wears a gartel and may look like a bit like Lubavitcher, but is actually a talmid of Mir who said the shiur

Anonymous said...

The Satmar Rav was ideologically opposed to Agudas Yisrael and viewed its goal of unity as a way to make compromises on important issues by shutting down any dissent. As such he looked at the idea of Daf Yomi as a way to further that agenda and to kosherize Agudah in the the eyes of the masses.

Hee Hee said...

Double Bubble - DIN must be thinking in terms of chewing him up & spitting him out vee a shtik chewing gum! He does have a point though that some fanatical Lubavs have the attitude of I'm gonna rip the Gemara out of that Litvisher's hands & shove a Tanya in his face to tell him to "learn some REAL Torah!" I actually know a talmid chochom that happened to. When he told me the story I asked him do what did you do? He related "I called him a koifer & grabbed my Gemara back!"

The Satmar Opposition to Normalcy said...

On that cockamamie iVelt website they keep getting more & more kooky. First a few years ago there was the big ultimatum that we warned you guys a few times already that if you talk about Tzionim even about news items where you don't necessarily realize how you're giving them a boost just by mentioning them in a non-critical way, that you are getting booted from the site. "Well, this time we really mean it!"

Then there was a trick registration with a choice of English or Yiddish language. If you take the English bait it must be a big violation of 1869 Hungary because they reject you as an undesirable who they don't want batteling by them.

Then they started trying to weed out which users are veibelach & kicking them out.

Then they blocked any & all ability to post anything unless you run it by a vetted forum baal habus who agrees to let it through

Anonymous said...

Mic drop!

Dusiznies said...

9:59
The Lubavitcher Rebbe loved every single Jew, whereas the Satmar Rebbe embedded into his Chassidim hate for other Jews to the point that even when they go OTD, for example, Abby Stein, they hate Israel with a passion, and therein lies the difference!

Dusiznies said...

1:16
I am not talking about R'. Weichbrod who I knew very well, and Weichbrod does have Chabad connections, before you make comments, I would suggest that you do your homework!

Dusiznies said...

7:32
I actually know a Satmarer Chusid who ripped a Gemara out of a Talmid Chochom's hands and shoved a "al Hagilah" in his face and told him to "learn some REAL Torah!"
When he told me the story I asked him do what did you do? He related "I called him a koifer & grabbed my Gemara back!"

Stop the nonsense said...

The Lubabs don't love every Jew, like typical missionaries they make a phony show of being full of love. But when someone opposes them, they go crazy. Mention Rav Schach zt"l to a Lubavitcher, see how they react. They hate those who oppose them, their fake religion, and their false messiah.

Dusiznies said...

Don't get me started with Rav Shach!
Mention Chabad to a Shachniker and "see how they react!"
Shachnikers hate those who oppose them, their fake religion, and their false messiah.

Anonymous said...

You lose all credibility when you make outlandish claims you of course don’t believe yourself like a Meshichist cult around Rav Schach ztl

Dusiznies said...

7:55
I'm not losing any "credibility" just today I had 14.858 views!
Talking about credibility, Rav Schach backed the Oslo Accords, which caused the first intifada! He despised not only the Lubavitcher Rebbe he despised Rav Ovadia Yosef too,
I don' think you want to go there! As the expression goes "Let sleeping dogs lie!