In a post titled: "Rabbi Chaim Druckman: How Can Jews Still Be Living In The Diaspora?"
Rav Druckman, Rosh Yeshiva Bnei Akiva, questioned “after all that has happened to the Jewish People, how is it possible that there are Jews still living in The Diaspora?”
Look at the hateful remarks that, Bnei Torah, Yeshivish and Chassidish people are making in the comments section ..
Just as if they were meraglim....
I am telling you that the Roshei Yeshivas and the Chassididhe Rebbes in Chutz L'aaretz have to rounded up and be taught our holy Torah all over again ....they are destroying generations of Jewish children! They have done more damage to the Jewish soul than Ben Gurion!
Except for one blogger (the comment below) "ZionGate" that said it perfectly, the rest of the comments could be posted in Al Jazirrah
From Chapter 4, EHS, Rav Teichtal H”YD :
Margeleh befumeei of Rav Sonnenfeld ZT”L;
Urei Betoov Yerushalayim; One always must see the good in EY, meaning the good aspects of it, and not chas vesholom be meragel like the meraglim. And they were meragel when there wasn’t a single Jew, al achas kama vekama when there is a kibbutz Yidden.
Urei Betoov Yerushalayim; One always must see the good in EY, meaning the good aspects of it, and not chas vesholom be meragel like the meraglim. And they were meragel when there wasn’t a single Jew, al achas kama vekama when there is a kibbutz Yidden.
Orach Chayim : 17the of Ellul is a taanis tzaddikim because the meraglim died then.
Mogen Avraham asks: But, B’avod Reshoim Rina?
Shaloh Hakadosh answers that they were tzaddikim.
Hence we see that that even tzaddikim can be meraglim.
Mogen Avraham asks: But, B’avod Reshoim Rina?
Shaloh Hakadosh answers that they were tzaddikim.
Hence we see that that even tzaddikim can be meraglim.
Please, watch how you demonize Eretz Yisroel, especially in the 3 weeks. Many things wrong ?? Make Aliya, encourage the masses to do the same, and fix it. In Galut it’s like avodah zarah. No charifus pilpul can deny it.
Your see! Looking frum but in thr the head is KRUM.
sickofidiots says:
arizona says:
Not getting involved says:Btw, we’ve had generations of Gedolim/Rabbanim/Roshey Yeshiva /Rebbes etc… from all segments who did NOT move to Eretz Yisroel. When Moshiach comes and reveals himself, we’ll pick ourselves up and go.
bugnot says:
mendoza says:worrse then in the usa
kvetcher says:
rwndk1 says:1) The lack of communal structure – say what you want about the yishuvim, the new communities they are trying, it is not the same. I have been there and I grew up in USA, it is just not the same. It is much more difficult here for a person to feel he belongs, to offer his services (even free of charge), and to get involved. When I was in High School, the school saw it as a responsibility to make sure a shiva-house had a minyan and would send a group for Mincha in the winter, here with the huge numbers, I see them flagging people down. A person wants to give a shiur who is not a great talmid chacham, in USA will have an audience, here probably not. Simchas – there people go and stay for a while, here “if I have time I will pop in”. This can make people feel very lonely.
2) The total separation of “black hat” from “kippa sruga” is disturbing and very unhealthy. Our shul had a bit of this and that without making an issue out of it. What is happening here is that many come with good intentions, and feel they belong in kippa sruga, without the “black hatters” to befriend them and keep them honest, the demands of the community are just not as great and children of olim chadashim who would have succeeded abroad are getting lost. On the other hand, the “black hatters” without the other side to keep them honest, can lose their children if not religiously then certainly in other ways related to attitudes towards others.
3) I was drawn to Israel by the simplicity of life, much to my chagrin materialism is rampant here, there is no longer the simple living that I was charmed by. Just look at old houses in yishuvim and the new ones to see the difference.
4) The list goes on.
Yes, it is a mitzvah, it is the land Hashem gave us, and I am very happy here, however there are many who would grow further in Yiddishkeit abroad than here and at this point until things change, they need to be respected as good Torah-observant Jews.
akuperma says:
dani 1659 says:RABBI CHAIM DRUCKMAN OPEN YOUR EYES
New Restrictions Surround Donating A Sefer Torah To The IDF As The IDF Appears To Becoming Increasingly Anti-Religious
sholom66 says:
american_yerushalmi says:Nevertheless, the possibilities for sheiging in learning and in avodas Hashem here are staggering. If you’ve never experienced it, you can’t really understand it. And so, despite all the above mentioned reasons not to come, I’d still urge people (– with children not older than 8-9 yrs. old; NOT teenagers), to come visit and “check out the situation.” If you presently own a house in the U.S. that you could sell, you could then afford to buy a nice apartment here. Yes, you’ll have to be willing to settle for an apartment, but there are some really nice ones available. And you must have some reasonable idea how you will support yourself and your family. If the above checks out, it’s worth exploring the possibility. Everything that was said by the various commenters about the government is true, but once you are settled here (after about a year), you generally don’t have many run-ins with the authorities on an ongoing basis. So, as some commenters remarked, “there are reasons why it is not for everyone,” you’ll never know unless you try. Trying could mean coming for a yomtov, or for a month in the summer (depends on work obligations back home), with or without the entire family. Get a feel for the place and the goings on here. At least, you’ll be making an educated decision. The fact that Reb Aharon Reb Moshe, and Reb Yaakov zt”l didn’t move here decades ago is not proof to what one should be doing now. And anyway, Hashem needed them to build Torah in the U.S.!! And regarding govt. corruption — yes, it’s all true in more ways than you know. But, after Nov. 6, especially if the machsheifa is elected (C”V!!!), you’ll be treated to a quantum leap in govt. corruption that will start being revealed in the great US of A.
All the true gedolei Torah encourage yidden to come. There’s a brief video on You Tube showing Reb Chaim Kanievsky answering someone, “it’s a mitzva (!) to come!” This is all on condition that it’s possible, i.e., parnassa, housing, schools. You can’t really know unless you check it out up close and not rely on hearsay. Despite everything, it’s definitely worth a close look.
ZionGate says:They’ll come when it gets tight, as in France.
Meanwhile, as you see here, excuses, excuses, lies, distortions, and more excuses. Of course some of the government frummies are as corrupt as anybody else .
They refused to come in the early Aliyah waves, and now they moan about conditions.
Using Moshiach as an excuse is untenable, as there are so many rabbonim in the past who explained it well.
The question, Rabbi Druckma,, is this:
When it’s time to run, will they still be able to take their $$$$$$$$$$ from their bank accounts. Better yet, will they even be allowed to sneak out of their sweet Diaspora.
“Zovas Cholov Udvash”, yeah, but___ EFES. EFES.
Heard that before from even from the gedolei hador.
