In a crazed rant, the leader of the Satmar Rumanian Sect, Aronie Teitelbaum, had the chutzpah to attack the parents of the slain boys, while they are still in the shivah!
This lunatic, who is in secular court with his brother, said that the "blood of the three slain boys is on the parents' head", because they live in a "dangerous place"... That's the exact words of the Meraglim in Parshas Shelach!
אפס כי עז העם הישב בארץ .... עמלק יושב בארץ הנגב, והחתי והיבוסי והאמרי יושב בהר, והכנעני יושב על הים ועל יד הירדן
And didn't his uncle the late R' Yoel Teitelbaum advise Jews during WWII, that had visas to Palestine or the USA, to remain in dangerous Europe?
אפס כי עז העם הישב בארץ .... עמלק יושב בארץ הנגב, והחתי והיבוסי והאמרי יושב בהר, והכנעני יושב על הים ועל יד הירדן
And didn't his uncle the late R' Yoel Teitelbaum advise Jews during WWII, that had visas to Palestine or the USA, to remain in dangerous Europe?
We didn't hear this lunatic scream when Menachem Stark got himself killed in a "dangerous area?"
This rant was beyond the pale of decency !
People keep writing me not to attack Satmar because they do Chesed!
Is this Chesed? Or is this רשעות ?
This rant was beyond the pale of decency !
People keep writing me not to attack Satmar because they do Chesed!
Is this Chesed? Or is this רשעות ?
Read the following article written by Sandy Eller of VIN and barf:
Just one day after the burial of the three murdered teenage boys, the parents of three boys became the subject of criticism from an unexpected source: the Satmar Rebbe.
The Satmar Rebbe’s words came tonight with no prior warning at the yeshiva in Kiryas Joel, with Rabbi Aron Teitelbaum blaming the parents of the slain teens for their deaths, saying that the boys died because they lived in the Israeli settlements, places that are inhabited by “predatory animals.”
The speech is aired on the Satmar news line Kol Satmar.
Speaking in Yiddish, the Rebbe began his words expressing his deep sorrow over the tragedy.
“I want to speak about an incident that happened in Eretz Yisroel where three Jewish lives were taken in an extremely brutal manner, Hashem yeracheim. When something tragic happens in our holy land, every heart bleeds and Hakadosh Baruch Hu feels the pain of his nation and Jews everywhere feel tremendous sorrow over what happened here.”
The Satmar Rebbe went on to describe the widespread sense of mourning that has blanketed the Jewish community worldwide and said that he has no doubt that this tremendous sorrow will bring even strangers to come and be menachem aveil.
“But with all the pain and devastation that is part of this terrible incident, we have to examine the circumstances from a wider perspective and with wisdom with eyes that are open to true daas Torah.
During the funerals, the parents eulogized their sons, but I think it would have been preferable if they had done teshuva, if they had said viduy with tears, in the nusach that is used on Yom Kippur, to repent for their decision to live and learn Torah in a place of barbaric murderers.
Who gave them a heter to live in a place like that, where they were living among known murderers? Is there no place in Israel to live and to learn other than in a place of tremendous danger?
Who gave them permission for themselves and for their children to live and to learn Torah in the midst of the lion’s den? To put their lives at risk, and the lives of their families at risk? It is all because of the yetzer hara and the desire for Jews to inhabit the entire State of Israel. It is Zionism for the mehadrin min hamehadrin.”
Placing the blame for the deaths of the three teens squarely on the shoulders of their parents the Rebbe continued, “it is incumbent upon us to say that these parents are guilty. They caused the deaths of their sons and they must do teshuva for their actions.”
Discussing the death today of a Palestinian teen, the Satmar Rebbe observed that the revenge had already begun.
“There is a suspicion that this murder was an act of vengeance and who knows if Jews all over the world are not in danger now from the Arabs. I hope that this youth was killed by another Arab but it is wise to be afraid. It is already 2,000 years that we are in exile and during that time millions of Jews have been killed. Jews have always been the ones who were killed, not the ones doing the killing.”
The Satmar Rebbe said that the truth must always be said, even when it is difficult.
“My holy uncle (Reb Yoel) taught us to love the truth and to despise falsehood.
In the generation prior to Moshiach, truth will be a scarcity and he taught us to fight with all our might against lies and to say the truth even when times are difficult, even if it will bring great troubles, even if we are face to face with arrows and catapults and if people will say that we are the enemies of Israel.
But it is not we who are the enemies. It is the Zionists, who place the lives of the Jewish people at risk for the sake of Zionism. The enemies are those who take revenge and who awaken the ire of the murderers who will surely take revenge and the cycle of vengeance will continue.
This is what Dovid Hamelech meant in Tehillim when he said ‘I hate falsehood and am disgusted by it.’”
Urging the Chareidi world to stand strong and to distance itself from the settlements, Zionism and revenge, the Satmar Rebbe concluded his remarks with a prayer.
Urging the Chareidi world to stand strong and to distance itself from the settlements, Zionism and revenge, the Satmar Rebbe concluded his remarks with a prayer.
“Hakadosh Baruch Hu should watch over the entire Jewish nation wherever they may be, in Israel and all over the world from all sorrow and all sadness and he should break the yoke of the gentiles, the wicked and the evil Jewish Zionists.”
28 comments:
There's a Yiddish word called " shvoiltug", translated as one doing mischief for no particular reason other than maybe boredom.
Wait a minute ; Didn't I read about achosid who was beaten up on Taylor St. last week? Until further notice, Taylor St. is not in EY.
Hey clown, you're lucky you live in a malchus shel chessed that allows for free speech even if it's Malaga babble. He speaks of yoke of the gentiles.. Where???? In Brooklyn???? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH..... Stop lying , clown.You live in a pot of fat Katchke Schmaltz surrounded by wild-eyed lunatic worshippers who believe every word you say .. Yoke of the gentiles??? Programs ???????? Wink, wink..... P-U-L-E-E-Z-E... !!
Comment 5;24 was posted by the Derby who forgot to sign off because he rushed to get some Alka-Seltzer.
Failed Shmatta Rosenberg & his rabidly anti-orthodox followers attacked the Zionist Orthodox movement with a variant of the same complaint before the 3 boys Hy"d even had kevurah and now Failed Shmatta has the hypocritical nerve to criticize Satmar too.
One thing I do find troubling with the Dati Leumi leadership is that Tzahal warned them the other week about specific intelligence that there would be a kidnapping. I think that in the face of a specific threat they should have curtailed hitchhiking for a little while, at least by children.
Yes they were warned by the government. That is troubling.
Why are you complaining? The Rebbe Hakadosh with his Ruach Hakadosh knows Why they were killed. He also knows all Aveiros in Klall Yisroel. Especially the
ones who go to Arkaos shel Akum.
Who cares what this piece of human garbage ignorant Jew hating and Israel hating savage has to say,this criminally insane Jew hating bastard is as revelant as a drunken bum passed out on the gutters of NYC.
This FARSHTINKENE BAL GAVAH, has the chutzpah and audacity to publish a list in his newspaper Der Blatt of young couples who were married in Kyryas Joel and had used his brother as a mesader kedushin instead of him ,this mazer ruled that the marriage is not valid and the couple is living in sin,and a year or two latter when these couples had Baruch HaShem children,this GANGSTER had his Kehila publish a list with the children's names,and a warning that when it will come to meshadech with this kids,people should realize they are the products of parents Who were not married and are children out of wedlock,what an evil monster
A former satmarer who Baruch HaShem saw the light
Actually it should not come as a surprise what this criminally insane ignorant savage said,after all this piece of human garbage grew up in the mental asylum called Satmar,everyone knows what the late satmar rebbe writes in his Israel hating manifesto VAJOEL MOSHE,that there is no doubt in his mind ,the reason that six million Jews were gassed and burned during the holocaust was all the result of the sin of Zionism,in other words because the poor Jews having suffered for the last 1900 years of pogroms,expulsions,inquisitions ,forced conversions,finally decided they had enough and decided they wanted to go back to their God given Eretz Yisroel,and for that sin GOD had the Nazis gas and burn six million jews including one and a half million yidishe kinderlech,this is the evil garbage Aron Teitelbaum was brainwashed with,therefore why should it surprise us that this evil insane zombie blames the Zionists for the murder of another three innocent jewish children
A former Satmarer who has Baruch HaShem seen the light
I don't normally answer crazy people, but the above comments about me are false.
1. I pointed out the Shin Bet and the IDF repeatedly warned settler leaders and rabbis that hitchhiking had become too dangerous, and asked them to put a stop to it. The settler leader and rabbis refused.
I pointed this out after the kidnapping but long BEFORE the boys’ bodies were found – not within hours of their burial – and I did so in the context of waring about a real and credible danger – not to express theological hate. The Satmar Rebbe attacked the Zionism of the boys parents, blamed the parents for the boys’ deaths, said the parents were responsible for the deaths of their sons – and did so within a day after the burials.
So your commenter – who used to comment on my site as Archie Bunker, Context, and several other names – did what he has done to many people for many years he wrote a partial truth and used it to smear.
2. My grandfather was never accused of or implicated in any murder, and was known for refusing to use violence. The Federal prison psychologist at Leavenworth did NOT call him “an aggressive & dangerously super-intelligent Hebrew.” What the actual prison file says, however, is that my grandfather had problem solving abilities and intelligence higher than 92% of the prison population and was a “rather aggressive, pleasant appearing and cooperative hebrew” and added that “His aggressiveness is characteristic of his impressions derived members of his race, but there is nothing offensive about them.” (Source: Paul Maccabbee’s book John Dillinger Slept Here, plus I’ve also seen the file which also says my grandfather was “self-confident, glib, and respectful.”) This is far different from what your commenter claims.
3. My grandfather was bootlegger and political fixer. He operated in a city whose police gave safe harbor to all criminals who sought refuge there, as long as they first checked in and left a ‘gift’ for the cops and promised to do no crime in the city.
This system was put in place by an Irish police chief in the very first years of the 1900s (about 1903) when crime rackets in the city were heavily Irish- and German-controlled. It was well-established, well-known publicly and accepted. My grandfather grew up knowing this just as every other person in St. Paul knew it. And when Prohibition came in, bootlegging was not one of the crimes forbidden in the city by the agreement. It was only in the 1930s – almost a decade after my grandfather’s 1-year prison term – that the public and the FBI tried to undo the police department’s O’Connor system, named after the police chief who started it. My point is not to say that my grandfather was not guilty – he was – or that he was a saint – he wasn’t. But he wasn’t the a mafia kingpin or a murderer, either. (And just to cut off this sick person’s likely response, the quote about him being the Al Capone of St. Paul actually reads in full,
4. As for Tropper’s yeshiva, as I’ve told this sick person previously, a) I never studied under Tropper, b) I never studied in Tropper’s yeshiva, and c) I’ve never even been to Monsey.
5. The accusations made by this sick individual that I stoned a shul in Monsey are false. As I just noted, I’ve never even been to Monsey. However, more than that, I’ve never stoned anyone or stoned a shul.
Abe, the person who posted those comments is sick and dishonest.
I would hope that since you regularly monitor and vet comments, you would choose to ban this person from commenting in the future. He is truly ill.
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Now that you are single and secular would you marry out?
Yes
Anonymous –
You have a mental illness.
Folsom's book is very clear about what my grandfather did an did not do, and the only actual accusation of violence he makes is a misquote of his source, as I noted several comments above. (Folsom actually cites the page for the quote as 36, when its actually on 39. So he not only mangles the quote, he mangles its citation, as well.)
Smearing people – your specialty – is sick.
Stop lying.
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