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Wednesday, July 31, 2024

Litvishi Gedoilim Throw One of their Very Own Under the Bus Because He wants Chareidim in the Army


I just love this. When one of their very own finally wants to break the mold and do something positive for the frum community they eat him alive!

They are panicking because he is one of them, if it was a Daati Leumi or a Chasidishe Gadol they would stay silent but Harav Leibel Shlitah has their number and is openly saying that their derech is unsustainable and is collapsing under its own weight like a cheap cardboard box. They demand that Chilonim support their daycare, because they learn. Let them go to work! 

Rav Landau and the Anglo Hirsch published their Kol Korah in the garbage rag called The Yated! 

I'm wondering isn't this out right Loshon Hara against another Gadol??

 Read the Kol Korah and none of what they wrote fits into the Chafetz Chayim exemption of speaking Loshon Hara! This Kol Korah denigrates one of the greatest Gedoilim of our time and they are doing this with impunity! Are they role models? 


 Several leaders of the Lithuanian charedi community have spoken out sharply against the new initiative of Rabbi Dovid Leibel, the head of Achvas Torah (Kollelim for working Bnei Torah) . Rabbi Leibel is in the process of setting up a charedi brigade in the army, which will be called Mishmar HaTorah.


Rabbi Dov Landau and Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch published a letter in Yated Neeman Tuesday in which they attacked the new idea:


“Our generation has merited with G-d’s help to increase Batei Midrash, yeshivos and kollelim, and tens of thousands of Avreichim KY have taken off the yoke of public service and separated from worldliness in order to sanctify themselves with the sanctity of the Torah and service of G-d. Besides the inherent virtue, this is also the only assured way to protect the sanctity of Am Yisrael. Even those who work for their livelihood are basing their lives on Torah values with the outlook that we received from our teachers of blessed memory.

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“Recently one person has risen and claimed all kinds of false claims against this, basing himself on all kinds of weird reasonings and acting on dangerous initiatives to change the unique style of the Torah world and to decrease Torah study. He influences his disciples to leave the leadership of Daas Torah and to find other broken vessels and he is even assisted by those whose goal is to destroy charedi Judaism HY.

“The gedolim, including Rabbi Chaim Kanievski zl, Rabbi Karelitz z’l, Rabbi Gershon Edelstein z’l and Rabbi Aharon Leib Steinman z’l all fought against him after he opened “crooked” institutions for avreichim [with secular study programs in the afternoons], and now he wishes to establish a Mishmar Torah program which will cause the draft of Bnei Yeshivos, and claims that the rabbis agree with him. We wish to register a strong protest and warning that all of his views are evil spirits in Am Yisrael and all of his initiatives and actions are designed to cause damage and are a danger to the future of the Torah world, so people should beware of helping or giving him recognition and prevent him from carrying out his designs.”

Last week, Rabbi Meir Tzvi Bergman, the son-in-law of Rabbi Shach z’l, attacked Rabbi Leibel, stating that “There’s a person called Leibel, all the time he has new ideas, he’s looking how to destroy and ruin the Bnei Torah. Tell them that one must beware of him like a fire.” Rabbi Bergman added that “This is all arrogance to search for ways to destroy Bnei Torah HY.”

7 comments:

Avraham said...

DIN Show respect to Gedoli Hador!
"Warm yourself by the fire of the sages, but be beware lest you be burned by its embers; for their bite is the bite of a fox, their sting is the sting of a scorpion, their hiss is the hiss a serpent, and all their words are like fiery coals." (Avot Ch 2)

Akiva Eiger said...

Avraham
Tell that to the "gedoilim" that threw a huge Talmud Chacham under the bus because he wouldn't listen to their ridiculous outdated unsustainable SHIT"ah!
That mishna applies to all those who stood by Har Sinai and that includes Rav Landau and Rav Hirsch! If it applies to me it applies to them. That scorpion from the Mishna that you so nicely quoted will sting them!

Gedalye Leibowitz Esq said...

Avraham
Gedoilim need to be ראש וראשון in their middos. When Gedoilei Yisrael talk Loshon Hara , and not only talk but post it on a Kol Korah, one should not give them any respect
אין חולקין כבוד לרב במקום חילול השם
They are a disgrace and should immediately resign from their positions!
The are now being mocked and ridiculed in Yeshivois and Kollilim
זו תורה וזו שכרה

Yitzchak Izaak Perl, Lakewood said...

Avraham
Get off your high mule and brey! You are a stupid 'naar" . It was the Talmeidie Chachamim that joined Korah and it was the Gedoilei Hador that were the meraglim.
That mishna that you quoted directed from Seferia applies to those Gedoilim!

Anonymous said...

Avraham
I'm no fan of DIN, but Hichos Loshon Hara which this Kol Korah is applies to Rav Landau and Harav Hirsch as well!

Anonymous said...

Avraham you are 100 percent right!!how dare people talk this way about gedoilim witch know hilchos loshon Hora alot better then them.People these days think they know better than our gedolim.....very sad.....

Anonymous said...

2:31
A reminder to you that those who supported Korach were the Gedoilim. The 250 Sanhedrin that supported Korach knew the halachos of Loshon Hara but that didn't stop them from talking Loshon Hara. This Kol Korah is out and out Loshon Hara against one of their very own, so if thats they way they treat their own, how do they treat outsiders? What בושה? People actually do know better than our Gedoilim the biggest proof is this Kol Korah in a Loshon Hara Paper that is now being mocked and ridiculed in all yeshivos and kollilim!