It's a tragedy. The whole thing. I am sure that there are people out there who have messed up neurotransmitters and wacko hormones and they really truly believe that they are not the sex that they appear. I feel terrible for them and I daven for their healing. But the evil here is that these people and their supporters want to use this freak, one out of a bazilion condition to undermine our communal relationship with Hashem and His Torah. Hashem gave us the Torah to make our lives easier; when you start allowing things that the Torah said were forbidden you are only making life worse for yourselves and for the naive who are impressed by your eloquence and your social power.
The part I really don't understand is that he supposedly converted. Why would a Beis din convert someone who gay and plans to "live as a woman"? You're setting them up for this scenario. Unless he misled them and specifically wanted to create trouble in frum communities? Idk
You are spot on! She/He also says in other posts that the Tziz Eliezer said that being a "trans" is not against the Torah, which of course, is a total misreading of what he actually said and wrote.
I wish that this was only sinat chinam; it's nauseating. The handlers and enablers of these people are soul eaters. They take people with psychological and medical limitations and turn them into poster children of the enlightenment just so they spread their lies.
This Talia is a calculated fraudster. Let's walk thru this!. How did she/he get converted? When she met the rabbis to convert was "she" a man? If "she" was she needed a bris. If she appeared as a woman, then she went to the mikva without a bris. If "she" was still a man, dressed as a man, and she didn't tell the rabbi that she was in transition, then how did any frum rabbi convert "her?" Too many questions!
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It's a tragedy. The whole thing. I am sure that there are people out there who have messed up neurotransmitters and wacko hormones and they really truly believe that they are not the sex that they appear. I feel terrible for them and I daven for their healing. But the evil here is that these people and their supporters want to use this freak, one out of a bazilion condition to undermine our communal relationship with Hashem and His Torah. Hashem gave us the Torah to make our lives easier; when you start allowing things that the Torah said were forbidden you are only making life worse for yourselves and for the naive who are impressed by your eloquence and your social power.
The part I really don't understand is that he supposedly converted. Why would a Beis din convert someone who gay and plans to "live as a woman"? You're setting them up for this scenario. Unless he misled them and specifically wanted to create trouble in frum communities? Idk
Josh Mark
You are spot on!
She/He also says in other posts that the Tziz Eliezer said that being a "trans" is not against the Torah, which of course, is a total misreading of what he actually said and wrote.
Converted?? Did "SHE" have a bris? But woman don't have a bris, so I assume not. Then she didnt convert! Orthodox goy?
this is so creepy
see the sefer "dor tapuchos" which deals with 'the trans in orthodox jewry' issue.
Who’s child is that?
looks like the fat husbands kid, not the un-male husbands kid.
clear case of goyim who claim / want to be part of normal community without being normal.
Worse than normal goyim
This is sinat chinam. Think of your own self as Rosh Hashanah approaches, not attacking others.
I wish that this was only sinat chinam; it's nauseating. The handlers and enablers of these people are soul eaters. They take people with psychological and medical limitations and turn them into poster children of the enlightenment just so they spread their lies.
Lay off the conspiracy theories.
You know that antisemitism is the origin of the conspiracy theories you spout, right?
This kind of sin'ah will be a help to get you through the new year. Guaranteed
Psalm 97:10
Josh,
Thumbs up
This Talia is a calculated fraudster.
Let's walk thru this!.
How did she/he get converted? When she met the rabbis to convert was "she" a man? If "she" was she needed a bris. If she appeared as a woman, then she went to the mikva without a bris. If "she" was still a man, dressed as a man, and she didn't tell the rabbi that she was in transition, then how did any frum rabbi convert "her?" Too many questions!
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