to first commenter: Its BECAUSE of the Satmar Rebbe that this is going on. He is the one that taught this hatred of Eretz Yisroel and left behind thousands of stupid, brainwashed chasidim who have no idea why they hate it so much. Only cuz Yoilish said so, so it must be fact. All the blame lies on him.
I think there is room in the Jewish Frum world to have differences in opinion. To curse them is a very low blow. Let them protest. There were Rabbonim who were not Zionists. Remember secular Zionism was anti religious. They maintained that once we have a Medina then there is no need to be religious. This is a fact. Herzl wanted UGANDA to be a Jewish homeland . This is fact. I DO NOT agree with Neturei Karta, but do we have to destroy anyone with a different viewpoint even if we find it repugnant. How should we deal with the Palestineans HALACHICALLY? We must protect ourselves from murderers and terrorists, but should we abuse a hard working Arab who just wants to be left alone? It's just a question. There are many Leftists in Israel who are in agreement with Neuturei in this regard. Very strange but true. People will differ.
He said the same exact thing what the Ruv of Yerusholayim Reb Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld said and actually did HE WENT TO JORDAN TO MEET THE KING AND TOLD HIM THAT THE ZIONISTS DO NOT REPRESENT THE JEWS/JUDAISM! And the Zionist murderers immediately took revenge and murdered Dr Reb YY Dihan hy"d who was the first frum Jew killed in cold blood directly by the Zionist Nazis
10:28 meeting with the Iranian Murderers that vowed to wipe Israel off the map, isn't a "difference of opinion" Gedoilei Yisroel have in the past and are presently calling them Roidfim, in the time of the Sanhedrin there was an obligation of every Jew to kill them! Herzl was an assimilated Jew but cared for the Jewish people, and wanted an end to anti-Semitism and he thought that if Jews would move to Uganda and build a State that would be a solution. Herzl's idea is no different than R' Yoel Teitelbaum, the founder of Satmar Chassidus, idea of establishing the city of Kitryas Yoel in Monroe.... same exact idea ... and yes...the leftists in Israel, the Neturei Karta and Satmar are on the same page ..absolutely!
10:34 R' Chaim Yosef Sonnenfeld, a good friend of Harav R' Avraham Yitzchok Kook z"l, did not go to meet the King, actually he he sent Mr. Di Haan, Mister Di Haan was gay, his first marriage was to a Christian woman was never consummated... and in one of his poems he asks himself: "whether his visits to the Wailing Wall were motivated by a desire for God or for the Arab boys there" He loved Arab boys and wanted the Zionists to negotiate with the Arab Murderers ...this led him to leave the Zionist party and to hook up with R' Sonnenfeld, who was a fervent anti-Zionist! I don;t know if R' Di Haan was murdered by the Zionists, could very well be ...but leading a double life leads to tragedy!
To the poster who writes about Uganda. This was only an emergency solution because at that time, the British or anybody else were not ready to give Palestine to the jews who were being attacked every few months in Europe.The goal was always eretzyisroel and that's why Herzl went to see the Sultan and Kaiser. Yo're lying about the facts because if you read biodgraphies of Herzl even though they disafree on some things, they never disagree on Uganda or Argentina.
Show where a hard working Arab is abused by Israelis. Now show where hard working Israelis are abused and murdered by Arabs. The left and neture karta both hate the concept of a jewish controlled Israel and both want its demise. and both are apikorsim andare defying G-D in the worst way possible.
It's interesting that Satmar doesn't protest, it's Neturei Karta which is a fringe group. But lets be honest secular Zionists were not lovers of religion. They cut off payos of Yeminite children teaching them that religion is not needed in the Medina. They almost destroyed the Yeminite traditions. I'm not a NETUREI KARTA or Satmar, but lets not rewrite history to make ourselves feel good. There were definite problems with secular Zionism. They were not lovers of religion. This is why many Rabbanim were against them. Rav YEILISH, Z"l understood this very clearly. The Zionists did many great things, but lets not rewrite history. We should not let the Chardim do it, and we should not do it either. Stop cursing others that you do not agree with your idyllic fantasies, it just make you look petty.
you say let's be honest, so let's be honest. they did some bad things but also very good things overall. Llets be honest, that those against the medinah were against it even if the religious controlled it fully and everything was closed on Shabbos and there no secular living in it at all, because they don't believe in the concept of Zionism at all. Looking for the bad are only excuses to attack Israel because they don't believe in it.
2:23 If you don't want to re-write history ....that the Zionist "almost" destroyed Yemenite traditions" Satmar did the same things ...there are many U_Tube videos portraying the facts....Satmar kidnapped Yemenite children and destroyed Yemenite traditions as well... We know very well that the early Zionists weren't tzaddikim .. But now after the fact ...we must support our brothers and sisters in Israel... BTW ....Why is the Agudah and Satmar for that matter fighting to have the Yemenite affair secret???? HMMM? Netanyahu announced a commission last week to open up the Yemenite situation ... and the Chareidim are fighting it ... Are there some dark secrets there that we don't know? Remember Bergman from the Nursing Homes? Remember his partner? There are now reports in the Israeli press that Bergman was dealing in kidnapping Yemenite Children and bringing them to the States to Chareidim who couldn't have children... the papers report that his partner was R' Moshe Teitelbaum, the previous Satmar rebbe... I am not making the connection ...investigators are ... and maybe, and I'm hoping that I'm wrong ...there are some very dark things that the Chareidim do not want exposed!
Rav Yoel, Z'l tried to keep the traditions of his forefathers alive against many who sought to destroy Judaism as a religion. Rav Yoel Z'l fought fire with fire. Why do we love the Land of Israel? Because G-d promised it to the Jewish people, not because of Anti- Semitism. There were individuals like Secular Zionism, socialists ect who sought fervently to destroy and eradicate religion. Because religion made Jews different. Rav Yoel, Z'L fought for the traditions of his fore fathers. Our very own great- grandfathers were bearded with long coats. Do not make him the villain. I'm not Satmar, nor Neturei Kartar. I believe we must support Israel because Jewish lives are at stake. But Rav Yoel, Z'l fought to preserve the traditions many were seeking to destroy. Secular Zionists hated religion. What should have Rav Yoel, Z'l have done just allow these individuals to eradicate his traditions. Again, I'm no Satmar, but history is history. Rav Yoel, Z'l is a hero because he fought tooth and nail so that Jews can wear Payos. Even after the Medina, does the world love us? The Zionists did tremendous good building infrastructure, but Rav Yoel, Z'l saved the traditions of his fore fathers, even the traditions of our great grandfathers. If satmar lost it's way now, I do not know. But Rav Yoel, Z'l sought to save the traditions. I love Judaism.
"But now after the fact ...we must support our brothers and sisters in Israel" I wish someone in your immediate family should be kidnapped and disappear for good and let's see if you big skunk mouth will say but now after the fact, there's a lubavitcher chasid in Flatbush not a Yemenite Jew that the Zionist Nazis grabbed away a newborn sibling from them YM"S, but again you will always dig up a defense for the Zionist Amalekim and at the same time dig up some lies and fantasies from the Zionist Nazi shtirmer press against every frum Jew NOT ONLY SATMAR simply because you're a Nazi
Hey Nazi, as usual when you're confronted with facts your response is either attack with lies and curses which you're an expert or ignoring, now you can see online what the Zionist bastard Nazis did to the Yemenite children and they fully deserve to be called Nazis
5:20 Why are the Satmars joining the Agudah in trying to squash the Yemenite saga? Netanyahu formed a committee to release all the documents pertaining to the Yemenite saga, to close that chapter once and for all, and you would think that the Chareidim would jump up and down with joy to have the commission reveal to the public all secrets....yet the Chareidim and Satmar are now fighting behind the scene tooth and nail to keep it closed>>>> I wonder why?
Can you ask your lubavitcher guy to come here and id himself and tell the story because nobody believes this peppercrap. Maybe you're Hillary because she said she was in a war zone in Bosnia or something like that, Probably some beauracrats may have done something wrong there not the government ,but how about the thousands that were saved from Iraq and also Yemen through secret flights and brought to Israel.
These neturai karta Jew hating animals all of them got their Jew hating chinuch in the various Satmar yeshivas (insane asylums),they were brainwashed with the teachings of that evil satmar jew hating and israel hating manifestos "vayoel moshe" and "al hagula v'al hatmura". Yes Satmar can claim all they want,that they don't agree with their extreme views and actions,but the fact is that that it is Satmar and Reb Yoilish who spawned these animalistic jew hating bastards, bottom line is "that if Reb Yolish and Satmar would not have come up with their idiotic and evil Israel hating shit-a there would not have been a neturai karta
The wicked NK kofer / apikorus / moser / rodef / rat bastard YEMACH SHMO referred to a mythical place he called the "Land of Palestine".
The mythical "Land of Palestine" was invented by the genocidal Roman Jew haters in an attempt to eradicate the Jews and their homeland Eretz Yisrael. Now these very wicked, goyish NK Jew haters exploit Roman lies to continue to persecute Jews and to eradicate Eretz Yisrael.
Just like Hashem obliterated the wicked, Jew hater Romans from the Earth, may Hashem obliterate the wicked Jew hater rodfim called Neturei Karta.
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I wonder what the Satmar Rebbe wold say if he were alive today?
So tell us what he said when similar things were going on when he was alive.
to first commenter: Its BECAUSE of the Satmar Rebbe that this is going on.
He is the one that taught this hatred of Eretz Yisroel and left behind thousands of stupid, brainwashed chasidim who have no idea why they hate it so much. Only cuz Yoilish said so, so it must be fact. All the blame lies on him.
July 6, 2016 at 9:55 PM
he prob would say it along with them, allah akbar
I think there is room in the Jewish Frum world to have differences in opinion. To curse them is a very low blow. Let them protest. There were Rabbonim who were not Zionists. Remember secular Zionism was anti religious. They maintained that once we have a Medina then there is no need to be religious. This is a fact. Herzl wanted UGANDA to be a Jewish homeland . This is fact. I DO NOT agree with Neturei Karta, but do we have to destroy anyone with a different viewpoint even if we find it repugnant. How should we deal with the Palestineans HALACHICALLY? We must protect ourselves from murderers and terrorists, but should we abuse a hard working Arab who just wants to be left alone? It's just a question. There are many Leftists in Israel who are in agreement with Neuturei in this regard. Very strange but true. People will differ.
He said the same exact thing what the Ruv of Yerusholayim Reb Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld said and actually did HE WENT TO JORDAN TO MEET THE KING AND TOLD HIM THAT THE ZIONISTS DO NOT REPRESENT THE JEWS/JUDAISM! And the Zionist murderers immediately took revenge and murdered Dr Reb YY Dihan hy"d who was the first frum Jew killed in cold blood directly by the Zionist Nazis
10:28
meeting with the Iranian Murderers that vowed to wipe Israel off the map, isn't a "difference of opinion"
Gedoilei Yisroel have in the past and are presently calling them Roidfim, in the time of the Sanhedrin there was an obligation of every Jew to kill them!
Herzl was an assimilated Jew but cared for the Jewish people, and wanted an end to anti-Semitism and he thought that if Jews would move to Uganda and build a State that would be a solution. Herzl's idea is no different than R' Yoel Teitelbaum, the founder of Satmar Chassidus, idea of establishing the city of Kitryas Yoel in Monroe.... same exact idea ...
and yes...the leftists in Israel, the Neturei Karta and Satmar are on the same page ..absolutely!
10:34
R' Chaim Yosef Sonnenfeld, a good friend of Harav R' Avraham Yitzchok Kook z"l, did not go to meet the King, actually he he sent Mr. Di Haan,
Mister Di Haan was gay, his first marriage was to a Christian woman was never consummated... and in one of his poems he asks himself:
"whether his visits to the Wailing Wall were motivated by a desire for God or for the Arab boys there"
He loved Arab boys and wanted the Zionists to negotiate with the Arab Murderers ...this led him to leave the Zionist party and to hook up with R' Sonnenfeld, who was a fervent anti-Zionist!
I don;t know if R' Di Haan was murdered by the Zionists, could very well be ...but leading a double life leads to tragedy!
To the poster who writes about Uganda. This was only an emergency solution because at that time, the British or anybody else were not ready to give Palestine to the jews who were being attacked every few months in Europe.The goal was always eretzyisroel and that's why Herzl went to see the Sultan and Kaiser. Yo're lying about the facts because if you read biodgraphies of Herzl even though they disafree on some things, they never disagree on Uganda or Argentina.
Show where a hard working Arab is abused by Israelis. Now show where hard working Israelis are abused and murdered by Arabs. The left and neture karta both hate the concept of a jewish controlled Israel and both want its demise. and both are apikorsim andare defying G-D in the worst way possible.
It's interesting that Satmar doesn't protest, it's Neturei Karta which is a fringe group. But lets be honest secular Zionists were not lovers of religion. They cut off payos of Yeminite children teaching them that religion is not needed in the Medina. They almost destroyed the Yeminite traditions. I'm not a NETUREI KARTA or Satmar, but lets not rewrite history to make ourselves feel good. There were definite problems with secular Zionism. They were not lovers of religion. This is why many Rabbanim were against them. Rav YEILISH, Z"l understood this very clearly. The Zionists did many great things, but lets not rewrite history. We should not let the Chardim do it, and we should not do it either. Stop cursing others that you do not agree with your idyllic fantasies, it just make you look petty.
you say let's be honest, so let's be honest. they did some bad things but also very good things overall. Llets be honest, that those against the medinah were against it even if the religious controlled it fully and everything was closed on Shabbos and there no secular living in it at all, because they don't believe in the concept of Zionism at all. Looking for the bad are only excuses to attack Israel because they don't believe in it.
2:23
If you don't want to re-write history ....that the Zionist "almost" destroyed Yemenite traditions"
Satmar did the same things ...there are many U_Tube videos portraying the facts....Satmar kidnapped Yemenite children and destroyed Yemenite traditions as well...
We know very well that the early Zionists weren't tzaddikim ..
But now after the fact ...we must support our brothers and sisters in Israel...
BTW ....Why is the Agudah and Satmar for that matter fighting to have the Yemenite affair secret???? HMMM?
Netanyahu announced a commission last week to open up the Yemenite situation ... and the Chareidim are fighting it ...
Are there some dark secrets there that we don't know?
Remember Bergman from the Nursing Homes? Remember his partner?
There are now reports in the Israeli press that Bergman was dealing in kidnapping Yemenite Children and bringing them to the States to Chareidim who couldn't have children...
the papers report that his partner was R' Moshe Teitelbaum, the previous Satmar rebbe...
I am not making the connection ...investigators are ... and maybe, and I'm hoping that I'm wrong ...there are some very dark things that the Chareidim do not want exposed!
Rav Yoel, Z'l tried to keep the traditions of his forefathers alive against many who sought to destroy Judaism as a religion. Rav Yoel Z'l fought fire with fire. Why do we love the Land of Israel? Because G-d promised it to the Jewish people, not because of Anti- Semitism. There were individuals like Secular Zionism, socialists ect who sought fervently to destroy and eradicate religion. Because religion made Jews different. Rav Yoel, Z'L fought for the traditions of his fore fathers. Our very own great- grandfathers were bearded with long coats. Do not make him the villain. I'm not Satmar, nor Neturei Kartar. I believe we must support Israel because Jewish lives are at stake. But Rav Yoel, Z'l fought to preserve the traditions many were seeking to destroy. Secular Zionists hated religion. What should have Rav Yoel, Z'l have done just allow these individuals to eradicate his traditions. Again, I'm no Satmar, but history is history. Rav Yoel, Z'l is a hero because he fought tooth and nail so that Jews can wear Payos. Even after the Medina, does the world love us? The Zionists did tremendous good building infrastructure, but Rav Yoel, Z'l saved the traditions of his fore fathers, even the traditions of our great grandfathers. If satmar lost it's way now, I do not know. But Rav Yoel, Z'l sought to save the traditions. I love Judaism.
"But now after the fact ...we must support our brothers and sisters in Israel"
I wish someone in your immediate family should be kidnapped and disappear for good and let's see if you big skunk mouth will say but now after the fact, there's a lubavitcher chasid in Flatbush not a Yemenite Jew that the Zionist Nazis grabbed away a newborn sibling from them YM"S, but again you will always dig up a defense for the Zionist Amalekim and at the same time dig up some lies and fantasies from the Zionist Nazi shtirmer press against every frum Jew NOT ONLY SATMAR simply because you're a Nazi
Hey Nazi, as usual when you're confronted with facts your response is either attack with lies and curses which you're an expert or ignoring, now you can see online what the Zionist bastard Nazis did to the Yemenite children and they fully deserve to be called Nazis
5:20
Why are the Satmars joining the Agudah in trying to squash the Yemenite saga?
Netanyahu formed a committee to release all the documents pertaining to the Yemenite saga, to close that chapter once and for all, and you would think that the Chareidim would jump up and down with joy to have the commission reveal to the public all secrets....yet the Chareidim and Satmar are now fighting behind the scene tooth and nail to keep it closed>>>>
I wonder why?
Can you ask your lubavitcher guy to come here and id himself and tell the story because nobody believes this peppercrap. Maybe you're Hillary because she said she was in a war zone in Bosnia or something like that, Probably some beauracrats may have done something wrong there not the government ,but how about the thousands that were saved from Iraq and also Yemen through secret flights and brought to Israel.
These neturai karta Jew hating animals all of them got their Jew hating chinuch in the various Satmar yeshivas (insane asylums),they were brainwashed with the teachings of that evil satmar jew hating and israel hating manifestos "vayoel moshe" and "al hagula v'al hatmura".
Yes Satmar can claim all they want,that they don't agree with their extreme views and actions,but the fact is that that it is Satmar and Reb Yoilish who spawned these animalistic jew hating bastards, bottom line is "that if Reb Yolish and Satmar would not have come up with their idiotic and evil Israel hating shit-a there would not have been a neturai karta
Read your history. Dr Dihan was killed becuz he was a Faggot and a child molester!!!
The wicked NK kofer / apikorus / moser / rodef / rat bastard YEMACH SHMO referred to a mythical place he called the "Land of Palestine".
The mythical "Land of Palestine" was invented by the genocidal Roman Jew haters in an attempt to eradicate the Jews and their homeland Eretz Yisrael. Now these very wicked, goyish NK Jew haters exploit Roman lies to continue to persecute Jews and to eradicate Eretz Yisrael.
Just like Hashem obliterated the wicked, Jew hater Romans from the Earth, may Hashem obliterate the wicked Jew hater rodfim called Neturei Karta.
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