What/ He never molested children, and the women with whom he consorted were more than willing partners at the , but became bitter old hags when even male dogs stopped looking at them. Same old, same old.
You know you're full of crap. There are many observant Jews that I love. However they tend to be in my personal circle of interaction and not the subjects of blogs. Online however, one doesn't find the loveable, but rather the "frum" criminals who hold their hooves out and claim to be "kosher."
And Carlebach did victimize females under the age of consent. Reported victims include some as young as 14 years-old. So forgive me if I labeled a teenager a "child."
More accurately my comment should read: Better known for his music than his molestation of MINORS. (Someone had to say it.)
But, oh, who to believe? A culture that typically covers up the abuse of the men they place on pedestals? Or the accounts of lives injected with pain due to Carlebach's malfeasance?
And I see you don't have much respect for women either: "bitter old hags when even male dogs stopped looking at them"
Perhaps you and Carlebach have a lot in common: "bitter old hags"? You mean no longer fresh, 14 years-old, and ready for picking by a celebrity Carlebach to bang like a rock star doing a groupie backstage?
I'm not sure if you got the memo: But religious facade is no longer a defense against an abusive pervert's guilt.
Too bad. Another "frum hero" bites the dust. Welcome to the information age, religious primitive.
chafraud, I see you're into 14 year olds, seems to be the new fad. You got any proof, as in evidence or somebitter yakking by toothless hags ? so there are many observant Jews that you love, like some of my best friends are Jews,LOL.You say religious façade no longer defense against pervert, why don't you include the 99.999% perversions by secular? Rhetorical question, because you hate the religious. well not all of them.
Anyone with reading comprehension skills can see the troll can't handle facing the Carlebach accusations.
There are no flawless righteous, and there are no heroes. As much as we may want to make god-men out of these characters they are as flawed as everyone else; rebbes, gedolim, historical characters... all flawed to one degree or another. And failure to recognize that smacks of denial at best, and ultimately leads to a form of idolatry (see the Lubavitcher Rebbe as an example).
Instead of facing that, the troll tries to label me with the same accusation Carlebach has on his name and then goes on to some nonsense about "include the 99.999% perversions by secular." It's a loser's tactic. He seems to have missed the point that secular don't wear a religious facade. It also doesn't address the delusion that observant Jewish life leads one to be morally superior. That depends on an individual, not the religion they subscribe to.
Again, thank you. If I hated religious Jews, I wouldn't be so disappointed by their failures. Nor would I get up every morning to drive children to multiple yeshivot for a Jewish education that effectively keeps our family struggling financially.
"Speaking loahan harah is according to all lekulei amrei, worse than gilui arayas, assuming even if true. Worse than avodah zara and even murder."
Hahahahahaha! LOL!
And breeding fear of "lashon hara" is a wonderful scare tactic for hiding the truth!
Imagine all of the A-lister ultra-Orthodox criminals who could get off the hook and commit their crimes over and over if only their stupid victims would heed the "holy words" directing them to STFU.
I'll take my chances. When I get to the hereafter, Carlebach may approach me and say my words "murdered" him. To which I'll respond: You were already dead.
I've seen enough malfeasance from "Jewish authorities" that I no longer have much regard for their dumbass opinions. An 'old fart with a beard' said so, is no good reason to disregard the truth.
Chafraud; well, yeah, not even Moshe Rabbeinu was perfect... But on the other hand, we have Tzaddikim, who although not perfect, just like with other Jews, we must not necessarily believe every bit of Lashon Hara spoke about them...
chafraudepraved %%%, you inserted a comment which had no place here, being it was a video of him singing and nothing else. According to your fake hahaha about loshon hara, You probably insert your venom about anybody of stature because you're a miserable depressed person and will throw in demeaning garbage whether true or not because that's what you want to do regardless of its place in the discussion. Obviously you have no friends , and why would you. Shlomo is a hero to millions even though he may be flawed like you and me. You're just a vicious shit thrower because you have deep seated gripes. Nobody cares, we want to enjoy his singing, so you go to heck and let the rest of us enjoy, you angry killjoy
here's a video of music, an angry man with a lifelong grudge against orthodox barges in with sex allegations and he has the brass balls to call someone else a troll, he needs meds in the worst way.
1,12 Your crocodile tears don't impress. Your obsession with Chabad, religious Jews with facades or Carlbach are symptoms of a rage in that you blame others for your possible failings. You choose to obsess over alleged wrongs which constitute a minute percentage of good that these people did , stick your nose with rants whenever you can and name yourself as commenter , sarcastically . Most orthodox Jews are good decent G-D fearing people but you look for evil everywhere because of your instability. Chabad for example is a great group that do wonderful things all over the world and there are bad apples, so what? but you rave like a lunatic on a soap box in my San Francisco against them . Have you ever considered therapy or anger management?
And this is why they whine. They're hero was exposed. What a disappointment. It happens in the music and motion picture industry all the time too.
"Nobody cares, we want to enjoy his singing, so you go to heck and let the rest of us enjoy, you angry killjoy"
Awwww. I'm so sorry about your joy being killed. Just forget that I said it and that anyone ever accused him. Okay? :)
"Nobody cares?" Not sure I agree with that. You may not, and may prefer delusions of his righteousness. So ignore my comment and enjoy your fantasy.
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"Chabad for example is a great group that do wonderful things all over the world and there are bad apples, so what?"
One bad apple... (you finish the rest).
And Chabad is notorious for protecting their many bad apples. They'll rally for a criminal before a victim, almost every time.
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chusid101 said...
"You're a bitter man go jump in the lake. The man was full of love and wouldn't hurt a fly. Why believe evil if you're not evil yourself."
You're the kind of a person who would belittle his victims to keep him on a pedestal. It's those who won't acknowledge evil who enable evil to continue.
And you call yourself a "rabbi" on your profile? Well, it is an unregulated industry, I suppose. But I recall it being a title that used to mean something before smicha got cheap.
Better known for his music than his molestation of children.
ReplyDelete(Someone had to say it.)
You're a bitter man go jump in the lake. The man was full of love and wouldn't hurt a fly. Why believe evil if you're not evil yourself.
DeleteAt least Chafraud is consistent in that he despises any frum Jew, even if he makes stuff up (Someone had to say it)
ReplyDeleteWhat/ He never molested children, and the women with whom he consorted were more than willing partners at the , but became bitter old hags when even male dogs stopped looking at them. Same old, same old.
ReplyDelete6:58 PM, 7:03 PM (same idiot)
ReplyDeleteYou know you're full of crap. There are many observant Jews that I love. However they tend to be in my personal circle of interaction and not the subjects of blogs. Online however, one doesn't find the loveable, but rather the "frum" criminals who hold their hooves out and claim to be "kosher."
And Carlebach did victimize females under the age of consent.
Reported victims include some as young as 14 years-old. So forgive me if I labeled a teenager a "child."
More accurately my comment should read:
Better known for his music than his molestation of MINORS.
(Someone had to say it.)
But, oh, who to believe? A culture that typically covers up the abuse of the men they place on pedestals?
Or the accounts of lives injected with pain due to Carlebach's malfeasance?
http://jewishsurvivors.blogspot.com/2007/02/arielas-story-survivor-of-shlomo.html
http://lilith.org/articles/rabbi-shlomo-carlebachs-shadow-side/
https://hareiani.com/2016/11/20/a-follow-up-on-carlebach-and-the-abuse-he-committed/
And I see you don't have much respect for women either:
"bitter old hags when even male dogs stopped looking at them"
Perhaps you and Carlebach have a lot in common: "bitter old hags"? You mean no longer fresh, 14 years-old, and ready for picking by a celebrity Carlebach to bang like a rock star doing a groupie backstage?
I'm not sure if you got the memo: But religious facade is no longer a defense against an abusive pervert's guilt.
Too bad. Another "frum hero" bites the dust. Welcome to the information age, religious primitive.
chafraud, I see you're into 14 year olds, seems to be the new fad. You got any proof, as in evidence or somebitter yakking by toothless hags ? so there are many observant Jews that you love, like some of my best friends are Jews,LOL.You say religious façade no longer defense against pervert, why don't you include the 99.999% perversions by secular? Rhetorical question, because you hate the religious. well not all of them.
ReplyDeleteWell, first, I know for a fact that Chafraud (wish I could call him something better) does NOT hate all Frum Jews or even close.
ReplyDeleteBut on the other hand, I don't know if the accusations against Carlebach are true...
Speaking loahan harah is according to all lekulei amrei, worse than gilui arayas, assuming even if true. Worse than avodah zara and even murder.
ReplyDeleteThank you Aish,
ReplyDeleteAnyone with reading comprehension skills can see the troll can't handle facing the Carlebach accusations.
There are no flawless righteous, and there are no heroes. As much as we may want to make god-men out of these characters they are as flawed as everyone else; rebbes, gedolim, historical characters... all flawed to one degree or another. And failure to recognize that smacks of denial at best, and ultimately leads to a form of idolatry (see the Lubavitcher Rebbe as an example).
Instead of facing that, the troll tries to label me with the same accusation Carlebach has on his name and then goes on to some nonsense about "include the 99.999% perversions by secular." It's a loser's tactic.
He seems to have missed the point that secular don't wear a religious facade. It also doesn't address the delusion that observant Jewish life leads one to be morally superior. That depends on an individual, not the religion they subscribe to.
Again, thank you. If I hated religious Jews, I wouldn't be so disappointed by their failures. Nor would I get up every morning to drive children to multiple yeshivot for a Jewish education that effectively keeps our family struggling financially.
Anonymous November 15, 2017 at 12:30 PM said...
ReplyDelete"Speaking loahan harah is according to all lekulei amrei, worse than gilui arayas, assuming even if true. Worse than avodah zara and even murder."
Hahahahahaha! LOL!
And breeding fear of "lashon hara" is a wonderful scare tactic for hiding the truth!
Imagine all of the A-lister ultra-Orthodox criminals who could get off the hook and commit their crimes over and over if only their stupid victims would heed the "holy words" directing them to STFU.
I'll take my chances. When I get to the hereafter, Carlebach may approach me and say my words "murdered" him.
To which I'll respond: You were already dead.
I've seen enough malfeasance from "Jewish authorities" that I no longer have much regard for their dumbass opinions. An 'old fart with a beard' said so, is no good reason to disregard the truth.
"Lashon hara"! Hilarious!
Chafraud; well, yeah, not even Moshe Rabbeinu was perfect... But on the other hand, we have Tzaddikim, who although not perfect, just like with other Jews, we must not necessarily believe every bit of Lashon Hara spoke about them...
ReplyDeletechafraudepraved %%%, you inserted a comment which had no place here, being it was a video of him singing and nothing else. According to your fake hahaha about loshon hara, You probably insert your venom about anybody of stature because you're a miserable depressed person and will throw in demeaning garbage whether true or not because that's what you want to do regardless of its place in the discussion. Obviously you have no friends , and why would you. Shlomo is a hero to millions even though he may be flawed like you and me. You're just a vicious shit thrower because you have deep seated gripes. Nobody cares, we want to enjoy his singing, so you go to heck and let the rest of us enjoy, you angry killjoy
ReplyDeletehere's a video of music, an angry man with a lifelong grudge against orthodox barges in with sex allegations and he has the brass balls to call someone else a troll, he needs meds in the worst way.
ReplyDelete1,12
ReplyDeleteYour crocodile tears don't impress. Your obsession with Chabad, religious Jews with facades or Carlbach are symptoms of a rage in that you blame others for your possible failings. You choose to obsess over alleged wrongs which constitute a minute percentage of good that these people did , stick your nose with rants whenever you can and name yourself as commenter , sarcastically . Most orthodox Jews are good decent G-D fearing people but you look for evil everywhere because of your instability. Chabad for example is a great group that do wonderful things all over the world and there are bad apples, so what? but you rave like a lunatic on a soap box in my San Francisco against them . Have you ever considered therapy or anger management?
"Shlomo is a hero to millions"
ReplyDeleteAnd this is why they whine. They're hero was exposed. What a disappointment. It happens in the music and motion picture industry all the time too.
"Nobody cares, we want to enjoy his singing, so you go to heck and let the rest of us enjoy, you angry killjoy"
Awwww. I'm so sorry about your joy being killed. Just forget that I said it and that anyone ever accused him. Okay? :)
"Nobody cares?" Not sure I agree with that. You may not, and may prefer delusions of his righteousness. So ignore my comment and enjoy your fantasy.
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8:28 PM
"Chabad for example is a great group that do wonderful things all over the world and there are bad apples, so what?"
One bad apple... (you finish the rest).
And Chabad is notorious for protecting their many bad apples. They'll rally for a criminal before a victim, almost every time.
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chusid101 said...
"You're a bitter man go jump in the lake. The man was full of love and wouldn't hurt a fly. Why believe evil if you're not evil yourself."
You're the kind of a person who would belittle his victims to keep him on a pedestal. It's those who won't acknowledge evil who enable evil to continue.
And you call yourself a "rabbi" on your profile? Well, it is an unregulated industry, I suppose. But I recall it being a title that used to mean something before smicha got cheap.
Forget the hate and check the styles
ReplyDeleteThose glasses are coming back
Chusid101, ye sure 'full of love', a bit too full of love.
ReplyDelete