These Rabbonim lecture is about Hashgocha Protis, Emunah, Betochin, how the Aibishter runs everything etc etc, but they don't believe it themselves. Yosher Koach to the irate gentleman.
They don't understand anger, and they don't understand reason. They might understand a couple of broken legs. But not nearly as much as they would understand a dry bank account.
But really, the best way to deal with this brand of broken Judaism is walk away from it. It's become a complete joke, designed primarily for the manipulation of people and acquisition of money.
Apparently God brought us out of slavery so we could enslave ourselves to our own kind.
Maybe that's why those who walk away from observance are called "frei" (free).
11:53 AM==You are describing them perfectly the truth hurts theese uber mentchen who call themselfs rabbis are nothing but indifferent uncaring selfish bal gaves gig shots they couldnt give a dammn if you die they oly care ab out your money
Because the drones voted "ROW A All the WAY" a very fine and frum judge was denied a victory in the last election. This is a product of an education that tells people to just follow blindly.
All the talk about how Black-Hatters or Chareidim are "deranged" or whatever is false. Believe me. I know quite a few Rabbonim and people who certainly are Black-Hat, and are such huge Mentschen, you would love them and feel sorry for speaking badly about them! Please, maybe you see some individuals who aren't as good in those circles, but you must realize there are those who are wonderful as well.
P.S. DIN, no need for this video. Take a look at Rav Shteinman about turning down Bochrim for "not being the type" on YouTube. "IT"S GAAVA!" He said. But the video is inspiring.
Those “quite a few Rabbanim and people who are certainly Black-Hat”—� how many of those Heilige Mentschen have publicly denounced Satmar for protecting sexual abusers and pedophiles? Who are those Heilige Mentschen who are outraged at what Satmar has and is doing to the victims of abuse? Name them. Until they publicly denounce Satmar, they are as complicit in the sexual crimes as the perpetrators. And your defense of them is equally disgusting. https://www.google.com/amp/s/frumfollies.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/satmar-anti-abuse-activists-leak-video-of-a-principal-molesting-a-boy-to-force-his-dismissal/amp/
7,08. He's a good guy trying to find the good in people, even though yo may disagree with him. Internet is a fact of life so you shouldn't fault him, if it's treif, it's treif for you too.
I've experienced it. I've felt very much like that infuriated guy in the video.
It was blessing I couldn't recognize at the time. Had we gone completely "black hat" I'd have had a very depressed child in a "Jewish madrassa"... or worse. The interview was freakish. And we later found out that the Rosh Yeshiva's brother was a total screw-up, even by the lowest secular standards. A hard drug user and an attempted suicide If I recall correctly.
We were told later that enough money could have bought us into the school.
They say a BT can never be truly "frum" and is merely like putting on a "coat" that they can remove when they find fault in "frumkeit." I used to feel insulted by that. After learning what dark "secrets" ultra-Orthodox Judaism holds, I say: Thank God, it was a garment that could be shed.
Unpopular opinion here but it goes both ways. The weaker kids want to go to a place just for the name even though they know they'll hold everyone back. I feel horrible typing this.
the R.H a tzadick he has a lunatic screaming and cursing him out in public and he just stands there with his head down and tacking it all.........how many people on this site would do that and not strike back.
3:16 You call a guy, in immense pain because the arrogant R"Y will not allow a Jewish child to learn Torah,a "lunatic screaming"????? Do you even have a heart? He "stood there with his head down and tacking it all" not because he is a tzaddik, he was silent because he knew that the guy was 100% correct... these guys "with their heads down and takicking it all" are going to hell!
Abe, I do not know about if they denounce it or not. It would make them worse if they denounced Satmar because NOT ALL OF SATMAR IS BAD OR EVEN CLOSE! But I know they are against se*ual predators...
Satmar provides aid and comfort to sexual predators. The video shows the Principal of that Satmar Talmud Torah molesting a boy. He hasn’t been arrested because Satmar is protecting him. Anyone calls themself Satmar, who is associated with that kehilla, who sends their children to a Satmar yeshiva or fails to denounce that depraved cult, is complicit in Satmar perversion and wickedness. You and your reticent Rabbeim included.
I was told to leave a yeshiva at a young age. They didn't even notify my father, just one day after the summer, at a total surprise to me , I was told that I cannot return to the yeshiva. I suffered for many years, my self esteem was in the toilet. It took me many years to deal with that traumatic day. The Mashgiach of that yeshiva couldn't care less about the effect it would have on me. It is amazing that I remained religious, attend many shuirm, and worked on myself to lead a productive life. I will never forgive him or his cohorts for their disgusting action. I gave a lot of tzedakkah to many yeshivas over the years, but never a dime to those bastards.
I give myself a lot of credit for my own personal development, and despite the prominent role that they serve in the torah world, I have no respect for them, and they should reflect on their own actions
Frustrations are real, the world is bitter and fake. But we dont know the story there. all we saw was a hurt man venting and shaming in public and another man taking it silently
Who and where?
ReplyDeleteשומעים חרפתם ואינם משיבים
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ReplyDeleteI think this was a while ago....but if any readers out there know ..let us know!
Wow!!
ReplyDeleteThese Rabbonim lecture is about Hashgocha Protis, Emunah, Betochin, how the Aibishter runs everything etc etc, but they don't believe it themselves. Yosher Koach to the irate gentleman.
ReplyDeleteThey don't understand anger, and they don't understand reason.
ReplyDeleteThey might understand a couple of broken legs. But not nearly as much as they would understand a dry bank account.
But really, the best way to deal with this brand of broken Judaism is walk away from it. It's become a complete joke, designed primarily for the manipulation of people and acquisition of money.
Apparently God brought us out of slavery so we could enslave ourselves to our own kind.
Maybe that's why those who walk away from observance are called "frei" (free).
11:53 AM==You are describing them perfectly the truth hurts theese uber mentchen who call themselfs rabbis are nothing but indifferent uncaring selfish bal gaves gig shots they couldnt give a dammn if you die they oly care ab
ReplyDeleteout your money
Many of those buchrim who are refused admittance to these impaired yeshivas will have considered it a blessing when they reach adulthood.
ReplyDeleteBecause the drones voted "ROW A All the WAY" a very fine and frum judge was denied a victory in the last election. This is a product of an education that tells people to just follow blindly.
ReplyDeleteAll the talk about how Black-Hatters or Chareidim are "deranged" or whatever is false. Believe me. I know quite a few Rabbonim and people who certainly are Black-Hat, and are such huge Mentschen, you would love them and feel sorry for speaking badly about them! Please, maybe you see some individuals who aren't as good in those circles, but you must realize there are those who are wonderful as well.
ReplyDeleteP.S. DIN, no need for this video. Take a look at Rav Shteinman about turning down Bochrim for "not being the type" on YouTube. "IT"S GAAVA!" He said. But the video is inspiring.
AishKodesh 4:26 PM,
ReplyDeleteThose “quite a few Rabbanim and people who are certainly Black-Hat”—� how many of those Heilige Mentschen have publicly denounced Satmar for protecting sexual abusers and pedophiles? Who are those Heilige Mentschen who are outraged at what Satmar has and is doing to the victims of abuse? Name them.
Until they publicly denounce Satmar, they are as complicit in the sexual crimes as the perpetrators. And your defense of them is equally disgusting.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/frumfollies.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/satmar-anti-abuse-activists-leak-video-of-a-principal-molesting-a-boy-to-force-his-dismissal/amp/
Abe leave the poor deranged idiot alone.
DeleteWhat's he doing on a site like this why does the holy jerk have internet? Isn't it treif? He's a fake frummie
7,08. He's a good guy trying to find the good in people, even though yo may disagree with him. Internet is a fact of life so you shouldn't fault him, if it's treif, it's treif for you too.
ReplyDeletejancsibacsi,
ReplyDeleteI've experienced it. I've felt very much like that infuriated guy in the video.
It was blessing I couldn't recognize at the time. Had we gone completely "black hat" I'd have had a very depressed child in a "Jewish madrassa"... or worse.
The interview was freakish. And we later found out that the Rosh Yeshiva's brother was a total screw-up, even by the lowest secular standards. A hard drug user and an attempted suicide If I recall correctly.
We were told later that enough money could have bought us into the school.
They say a BT can never be truly "frum" and is merely like putting on a "coat" that they can remove when they find fault in "frumkeit."
I used to feel insulted by that.
After learning what dark "secrets" ultra-Orthodox Judaism holds, I say: Thank God, it was a garment that could be shed.
When your LIVE Rebbe comes back to 770 will he be resurrected on the cross or a Magen David
DeleteCut it out!! their messiah has been dead for over 20 years the idiots still scream Der rebbe lebt
DeleteYechi
Unpopular opinion here but it goes both ways.
ReplyDeleteThe weaker kids want to go to a place just for the name even though they know they'll hold everyone back.
I feel horrible typing this.
the R.H a tzadick he has a lunatic screaming and cursing him out in public and he just stands there with his head down and tacking it all.........how many people on this site would do that and not strike back.
ReplyDeleteWho cares about these stupid yeshiva anyway anyone who wants to learn today could do it all online
ReplyDeleteSteve Brown has a good point
ReplyDelete3:16
ReplyDeleteYou call a guy, in immense pain because the arrogant R"Y will not allow a Jewish child to learn Torah,a "lunatic screaming"?????
Do you even have a heart?
He "stood there with his head down and tacking it all" not because he is a tzaddik, he was silent because he knew that the guy was 100% correct...
these guys "with their heads down and takicking it all" are going to hell!
Well, there's a blessing in disguise! Whatever ... he spoke (ranted) from the heart, because it was the truth.
ReplyDeleteAbe, I do not know about if they denounce it or not. It would make them worse if they denounced Satmar because NOT ALL OF SATMAR IS BAD OR EVEN CLOSE! But I know they are against se*ual predators...
ReplyDeleteSatmar provides aid and comfort to sexual predators. The video shows the Principal of that Satmar Talmud Torah molesting a boy. He hasn’t been arrested because Satmar is protecting him. Anyone calls themself Satmar, who is associated with that kehilla, who sends their children to a Satmar yeshiva or fails to denounce that depraved cult, is complicit in Satmar perversion and wickedness. You and your reticent Rabbeim included.
DeleteSounds like every Tom Dick and Harry kid has a constitutional RIGHT to go and attend any and every yeshivsah they choose.
ReplyDeleteWell. Maybe. Maybe not.
But the result is a 'shray'er' who decides and chooses to publicly scream and embarrass any Tom Dick and Harry rosh hayeshivah.
Maybe this 'shray'er' should of been turned away when he applied to yeshivah (If he ever attended one).
I don't know... Has anyone seen Rav Shteinman shlita"s opinion on this?
ReplyDeleteHas anyone heard the opinion of the Pope Shlit"a
DeleteI was told to leave a yeshiva at a young age. They didn't even notify my father, just one day after the summer, at a total surprise to me , I was told that I cannot return to the yeshiva. I suffered for many years, my self esteem
ReplyDeletewas in the toilet. It took me many years to deal with that traumatic day. The Mashgiach of that yeshiva couldn't care less about the effect it would have on me. It is amazing that I remained religious, attend many shuirm, and worked on myself to lead a productive life. I will never forgive him or his cohorts for their disgusting action. I gave a lot of tzedakkah to many yeshivas over the years, but never a dime to those bastards.
I give myself a lot of credit for my own personal development, and despite the prominent role that they serve in the torah world, I have no respect for them, and they should reflect on their own actions
Sad story but I respect your not giving in to what they did its not easy to do when the very people that represented Torah abandoned you
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אשריך בעולם הזה, וטוב לך בעולם הבא
Frustrations are real, the world is bitter and fake. But we dont know the story there. all we saw was a hurt man venting and shaming in public and another man taking it silently
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