Thursday, July 31, 2025

Rabbi Who Paskened that you Can't Eat Chulent on Thursday Now Says "One May Desecrate Shabbat, Leave Israel Rather Than Go To IDF"



 DIN: I guess once you issue a Fatwa against eating chulent on Thursday night, you can say the most outrageous things!
The good Rabbi Zilberstein said that Rav Yechezkel Abramski z"l said that  "One May Desecrate Shabbat, Leave Israel Rather Than Go To IDF"
Rav Zilberstein, I know you follow my blog so let me tell you that Rav Yechezkel Abramski z"l passed away in 1976 and now knows the truth. 
I wonder if Rav Zilberstein would have held this hashkafa, if on Simchas Torah 2023, 6,000 Hamas had entered Bnei-Brak, Chas Vesholom, raped, mutilated, chopped off babies ' heads and had taken Bnei- Brak hostages ?

I wonder why when Moshe Rabbeinu asked the Bnei Gad and Bnei Reuvein
?האחיכם יבוא למלחמה ואתם תשבו פה
why didn't they just answer him "
"We don't want to serve in the Jewish Army and we would rather live in Lakewood "
In fact at the time of the Meraglim, the Moetzes Ha'Torah of that generation did in fact say, according to the Zohar,
" we want to remain in Chutz Le'aaretz to learn Torah, rather than work in Eretz Yisrael"
in fact the Torah records that they, the Moetzes Ha'Torah said 
"Let's appoint a new leader and return to Mitzrayim" .... that statement is not a Zohar, its explicit in the Torah itself! 
Im wondering if its ok with Rav Zilberstein and the rest of his cronies, that Chilonim die for them?? Is that ok? what's with
?לא תעמוד על דם רעך

At the anti-draft meeting of Gedolim held Wednesday night in Ma’ale HaHamisha, Rabbi Yitzchak Zilberstein, a member of the Council of Torah Sages of the “Degel HaTorah” party, quoted a halachic ruling in the name of his teacher, Rabbi Yechezkel Abramski Zts’l:

“If it is impossible to (obtain an exemption) from the army, then there is a mitzvah for every person to leave the Land of Israel and make every effort not to live here.”

He continued with a shocking statement:
“I said to my rabbi, ‘I’m horrified to hear that.’
But he responded, ‘You haven’t heard everything yet. Listen to what I’m saying: desecrate the Sabbath and flee the country.’
I asked again, ‘Rabbi, can such things really be said in public?’
And he said, ‘If you won’t say it, I will.’
And indeed, he went and said it publicly. “If there’s someone among us being forced into the army, and there’s a concern he might stray from the religious path, I command him to desecrate the Sabbath.”

Two weeks ago, Rabbi Yitzchak Yosef, the former Sephardic Chief Rabbi of Israel and spiritual leader of the Shas party, launched a sharp attack on Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and MK Yuli Edelstein. The reason: Netanyahu’s claim that a charedi youth can serve in the army while maintaining a religious lifestyle.

Rabbi Yosef lashed out:

“The Prime Minister said that one can join a charedi unit and stay charedi—why are you lying?! What brazenness!” He then escalated: “Maran (referring to his late father, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef) said he [Netanyahu] is a blind goat, and I say he’s a blind fox, not a goat.You’re lying like that? No one leaves the army the same. Anyone who enlists becomes corrupted—there’s no doubt.”

This rhetoric reflects the deepening opposition within the charedi leadership to any form of military conscription, and signals the growing tension between the charedi public and the Israeli government, particularly as the issue of mandatory enlistment returns to the political and legal forefront.

7 comments:

  1. To continue that sevara, if a mechalel shabbos traif eating zonah caforting Jewish soldier asks if he should join the IDF, the psak should also be absolutely not. No matter how many avairos a person did, the Torah hashkofa is not to do anymore. Even one less avairo is tremendous.
    Therefore, these rabbonim should be calling for a complete disbanding of the IDF. Is that their hashkofa? Or it's important to have the IDF to protect us and let other yidden do avairos for our benefit?

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  2. Don't let the door hit their arses on the way out.

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  3. You don’t even come to Rabbi Zilberstiens Asher Yotzar paper

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  4. He’s very obviously suffering from Dementia or just simply gone gaga

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  5. carefull what you constantly say about gedolim ,very dangerous territory !!!

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    1. I will quote what the late Satmar Rebbe wrote in his book "Al Hagilah" when he denigrated Gedoilei Yisrael because of their participation in the Knesset
      במקום חילול השם אין נותנין כבוד לרב

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    2. 8:04
      Thank the RBS"O that we have voices like DIN that report the outrageous, dangerous statements of Rabbanim like Rav Zilberstein.
      Everyone now knows that anything said gets immediate exposure on social media and when Gedoilim make outrageous statements without filter (pun intended) then those words are a huge Chillul Hashem.
      Does he think that the RBS"O wants Jews to leave the Land that He gave us because they refuse to help their brethren in a war of attrition?
      How dare you lecture us with your stupid comment!

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