Monday, September 30, 2024

Lakewood Roshei Yeshiva Totally Disconnect from Klall Yisrael with Their Fake "Atzeres" Against Their Brothers and Sisters Living in Israel

 

Where are the parents of these naive clueless idiots?

Over a half million Jewish residents, Old, Young, Toddlers, and the Sick, of the North in Israel are running to shelters every couple of minutes. Some of them have gotten heart attacks because of the shock! One child was recently killed running to a shelter! 

You would think that Gedoilim from Lakewood would have a bit of sympathy and empathy for the majority of the Jewish people that live in Israel! Think again! 

First of all they keep repeating the lie:
  " The entire purpose of the medinah in Eretz Yisroel is to “oiker zein Torah, to uproot Torah.” 

This is a "bilbul" and pure unadulterated Loshon Hara by leaders of Klall Yisrael, only days  from Yom Ha'Din!

Not one Yeshiva or Kollel closed because of the draft or impending draft! 
And the draft law is only for a small percentage of boys. 
It doesn't affect 100% of those attending Kollel, it only affects those from ages 18-21, after the age of 21 one is no longer subject to the IDF draft! 
The Attorney General did stop payments for daycare Kollel guys because they don't work, but this will be reversed in the next couple of months!
But to lie and say that the "medinah in Eretz Yisroel is to “oiker zein Torah, to uproot Torah.” is a bald-faced lie!

 In fact, the opposite is true, since the medina was established more Torah is being learned in Eretz Yisrael than in any other place on earth including Lakewood! More Torah is being learned in Eretz Yisrael since Matan Torah! 

And yes, its time for the Chareidim to share in the burden of the rest of Jewish residents of Israel. Why is it ok that Children of Chilonim should die to protect those who slam their gemarras shut during "bein hazmanim" why should those chilonim work and pay taxes to pay for those who refuse to work and support their families? 

And this not "working business" is now in its third generation; the grandfather, the father and now the son doesn't work ......it is not sustainable! This will collapse very soon! 

I live in Ramat Beit Shemesh, all shuls are packed with seniors learning practically 24/7! I came home from a wedding last Thursday night at 2:00am and walked into shul to retrieve something I forgot,.... there were 22 seniors learning and they told me that they did "Tikkun Chatzois" , of course, this is not every night, but you can always find a senior in shul learning no matter the time...Is their Torah worthless? 
Is only the Torah of 18-21 year olds, whose hormones are raging, important? Let us, seniors, learn and the 18 year-old serve in the Army! Yes!! Absolutely!
If the Gedoilim are worried with their spirituality and I admit that it is a legitimate concern, then insist on meetings with the IDF to find a way to accommodate frum boys! 

Shame on all those who attended shame on those who spoke! 
אוי לה לאותה בושה אוי לה לאותה כלימה
אוי לאותה החכמה ואוי לה לאותה התבונה
אוי לו לעולם שאבד מנהיגם


An atzeres tefillah was held today in Lakewood, NJ in light of the giyus situation in Eretz Yisroel.

Roshei yeshiva and rabbonim had issued a call for people to attend the rally today, held in the heart of Lakewood, due, according to a statement prior to the event, to the “impending implementation of new Israeli draft laws that threaten to force thousands of bnei Torah into the military, posing an unprecedented threat to limud haTorah in Eretz Yisroel – the very lifeblood of the Jewish nation.”

The four roshei yeshiva of Beth Medrash Govoah, Rav Malkiel Kotler, Rav Yeruchem Olshin, Rav Dovid Schustal and Rav Yisroel Neuman, had issued a kol korei stating that men, women and children should attend the atzeres tefillah today.

Rosh yeshiva of mesivtos across Lakewood were asked to attend the event along with the talmidim of their yeshivos.

The gathering was held in a parking lot at Clifton Avenue and Ninth Street across from Beth Medrash Govoha’s Bais Aron Bais Medrash.

Other roshei yeshiva in attendance included Rav Aharon Feldman, rosh yeshiva of Yeshivas Ner Yisroel in Baltimore, Rav Elya Ber Wachtfogel, rosh yeshiva of Yeshiva Gedolah Zichron Moshe of South Fallsburg, Rav Yitzchok Sorotzkin, rosh yeshiva of Mesivta of Lakewood, ad Rav Shlomo Feivel Schustal, rosh yeshiva of Yeshiva Tiferes Yerachmiel.

Various speeches were then delivered, describing the “gravity” of the new giyus law and “the threat it poses to the Olam HaTorah.” The speakers were call up by Rabbi Mordechai Levy.

The speakers stood on a platform erected in front of the crowd, with a large attached umbrella to protect them from the falling rain. The speakers were projected on a large screen for the crowd to see and hear.

The atzeres program began with Mincha at 1:30 p.m., led by Rav Leizer Ganz, who also recited Tehillim. Tehillim was then also recited by Rav Shmuel Choueka and Rav Michel Handelsman.

The first drasha was delivered by Rav Yisroel Neuman, rosh yeshiva of Beth Medrash Govoah, who also recited Tehillim.

Tehillim was then said by Rav Mordechai Betzalel Klein, the Skulener Rebbe of Lakewood, and Rav Shmuel Halberstadt.

Brief remarks were then delivered by Rav Shalom Ber Sorotzkin, rosh yeshiva of Yeshiva Ateres Shlomo, who recited Tehillim.

Rav Shalom Ber Sorotzkin Shlitah on his Smartphone!

Rav Malkiel Kotler, rosh yeshiva of Beth Medrash Govoah, then addressed the atzeres.

Rav Elya Ber Wachtfogel, rosh yeshiva of Yeshiva Gedolah Zichron Moshe of South Fallsburg, spoke next. In his remarks, he stated that the entire purpose of the medinah in Eretz Yisroel is to “oiker zein Torah, to uproot Torah.” He said that even for those who are not learning Torah, it is forbidden to join the Israeli army.

“[The draft law] is a gezeirah that we cannot compare to any of the gezerios that there have been until now,” he said.

Remarks were then delivered by Rav Yeruchem Olshin, rosh yeshiva of Beth Medrash Govoah, who then also led the crowd in reciting Selichos.

The Novominsker Rebbe led the recital of Shema Koleinu.

Rav Yitzchok Sorotzkin, rosh yeshiva of Mesivta of Lakewood, then delivered a drasha and led the crowd in reciting Kabbolas Ohl Malchus Shomayim. Rav Dovid Schustal, rosh yeshiva of Beth Medrash Govoah, then led the crowd in the remainder of Kabbolas Ohl Malchus Shomayim and recited Kaddish.

A second minyan for Mincha was then held, led by Rav Menachem Savitz, ending after 4 p.m.

9 comments:

  1. This is why Moshiach doesn't come. He'd show up and they'd scream at him too.

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  2. One day when you grow up, you'll realize how Torah protects us- REALLY and PHYSICALLY - all else is mere toys in the hands of children. Saving ONE ben Torah from the clutches of a morally decadent army where women are referred to as "army matresses" will save more people than 5k beepers....

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  3. 12:16
    The only problem with your statement is that the Chareidie Roshei Yeshiva do not believe that "Torah protects us" if they truly believed it there would not have been "Bein Hazmanim" their talmiim would not have slammed their gemarras shut. They would not have closed their yeshivas in the North and the South, while Hesder Yeshivas remained open 24/7! Your blasphemous statement "where women are referred to as "army mattresses""this is only in Ger!
    You also don't believe your very own words that "Saving ONE ben Torah from the clutches of a morally decadent army"
    it was indeedthe "decadent army" that blew up the 5k beebers!
    The biggest apikorsim come from the Chareidie population who don't for a second believe that תורה מצלה!
    They don't believe it, and their Roshei Yeshiva don't believe it
    While Jewish children in uniform were being blown up, the Loimdei Torah were hanging out on the separate beaches of Ashkelon, Bat Yam and Tel Aviv! While Husbands, while Children in uniform were trying to avoid anti-missle attacks from our enemies, Avreichim were taking tiyulim all over the country
    זו תורה וזו שכרה

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  4. Gedalye Leibowitz EsqOctober 1, 2024 at 11:59 AM

    12:16
    Your comment:
    "Torah protects us- REALLY and PHYSICALLY -" is a lie!
    It didn't save any of the Gedoilim in WW2. It didn't save the Bochrim in Chevron in 1929 and it didn't save the Mispallalim in Har Nof when terrorists murdered 7 holy souls with their Talis & Tefillin On!
    It also didn't protect the 45 men and bochrim on April 30 2021 on Lag Be'omer at the Kever of R' Shimon bar Yochai!
    Grow up and learn that again! We already unfortunately grew up very fast!

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  5. 12:16
    I have to add that Torah didn't save the Satmar Rebbe from the clutches of the Nazis, it was, ironically, a Zionist that saved him!

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  6. DIN, you are a kofer of the highest regard. Shame on you. Change your ways before it is too late. This world only last for a short time. THEN where will you go? Oy.

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  7. Lakewood Baal'ChumraOctober 1, 2024 at 3:40 PM

    My wife showed me this post and we both burst out laughing. Why? Because I am 90% always on the opposite side of DIN. But with this post I must admit that he is spot on.
    We have a son-in-law that we support and we are more than happy to do it, however, when I inquired from my daughter where they were going to spend time Bein Hazmanim, she cheerfully told us that they bought tickets to LA to spend the time with his parents, I approached my son-in-law and asked him "Don't you think that this year would be a good time to learn during this time since "Torah is Matzla and the soldiers are fighting in Gaza?"?"
    He answered me that this isn't what "Torah Umatzla" means. When I inquired further, what then does it mean, he said "I don't know, but it doesn't mean that my Torah was going to save anyone."
    My wife and I are going to politely tell him that come this year after Rosh Hashana we will only support him if he starts a job and works at least a half day!
    We are very disappointed, not so much with him but of his Roshei Yeshiva that gave his "farkrumta hashkafois"

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  8. Gedalye Leibowitz EsqOctober 1, 2024 at 7:42 PM

    3:18
    Shut the Hell up you piece of drek! Get off the internet you sick dog!

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  9. 3:18
    I just saw your filthy comment while in the shelter because Iran is attacking us
    Your a baal gaavah. you think you know everything? You pusillanimous coward, why don't you write who the hell you are?
    The Rosh Yeshiva of Lakewood brought this down on us, may they run to shelters!

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