When a group of young Israeli women were woken up at 6:30 a.m. on October 7, they had no idea they would be making history as the first female armored crews in Israel, and perhaps the world, to participate in active battle.
In an interview with Channel 12 this week, the combat soldiers spoke of thundering along main roads to get to some of the 20 southern Israeli communities that came under massive assault that morning, running down terrorists, and securing breaches on the border with the Gaza Strip.
One of the officers in the unit, identified as Hagar, told Channel 12: “[My commander] comes into our room at 6:30 a.m., wakes me up and tells us that there’s a terrorist infiltration. We didn’t really understand the enormity of the event.”
The soldiers are part of a company of all-women tank operators, which was made permanent in the Israel Defense Forces in 2022 after a two-year pilot program. The company, in the Caracal mixed-gender light infantry battalion, usually operates along the Egyptian border — not in wars or in fighting behind enemy lines.
On the morning of October 7, they left their base at Nitzana, on the Egyptian border, and drove north as fast as they could, in tanks and an armored Humvee. In one of a number of highly irregular decisions IDF commanders were forced to make that day, the tanks were given the okay to drive on civilian roads — at speeds far higher than recommended.
At first, they discovered breaches along the border with Gaza, along with dozens of terrorists. Leaving a tank there to protect the border and prevent more Gazans from flooding into Israel, they headed to Kibbutz Holit, while also sending a tank to battle Hamas terrorists at Kibbutz Sufa.
Another of the armored crew commanders, Karni, spoke of the devastation they witnessed on the approach to Kibbutz Holit: “We realized we’re at war.”
“They told me there were terrorists in all the trees around me, so we just started firing. We started firing bunker busters at the terrorists that were up close, and then mortar shells at those further away,” Michal, another officer in the unit, said in the Channel 12 report.
“I could see the hits, I saw [the terrorists] fall down,” she added.
Hila, also a commander, told Channel 12 that none of them had been trained on the weapons system installed on the armored Humvee. “Within 10 minutes, we’d all become experts: how to run it, how to fire, how to slam the brakes,” she said.
“We approached the border and saw burned bodies of terrorists hiding in the trees. We were still firing as we went through to make sure we got everyone,” Michal said.
Another commander, also called Michal, described her experience at one of the border breaches at the southern end of the Gaza Strip. “As we continued we realized that those 50 terrorists — that was just the beginning. Then we started getting eyewitness reports from Kibbutz Holit, so I left a tank at the border, told [the operator] she had permission to fire at will, and then set out for Holit.”
“We saw terrorists everywhere, and I told the driver — just run them down… We get there and the gate is closed, a shell-shocked soldier runs out shouting “terrorists, terrorists!… So we smashed through the gate,” she said.
Asked about their first time shooting at terrorists, the soldiers were stoic.
“I feel like it’s exactly what we trained for. We were really prepared for everything,” a commander identified as Tamar told Channel 12. “We just did what our brains and our hands knew how to do.”
“In the moment you don’t think, ‘Am I saving that person, or that home?’ You understand — there’s a terrorist and I have to kill him before he gets into one of the border communities,” she added.
The newly appointed commander of the Paran Brigade, Col. Shemer Raviv, couldn’t be prouder of his female armored crews, who battled terrorists for some 17 hours straight on that day.
“When the tanks arrived, they broke up the battles,” Raviv told Channel 12. “Once they took those two positions… the terrorists understood they could either run or they would die. And the girls in those tanks, the warriors, with three tanks at that point in the attack, they fought in a most impressive way. They operated in such a way that they were seemingly not trained for. They fired inside Israeli communities, drove on main roads, and I believe that thanks to their actions in that area, we prevented the attack from moving further south.”
But these soldiers weren’t quick to accept accolades for their “historic” battle.
“So what? What does it matter? Did the terrorist know there were girls in the tanks? No. You think they saw Michal’s hair sticking out of the helmet? No. Boys, girls — what does it matter?” Hila said.
Tamar agreed. “You keep saying ‘heroines’ and ‘historic’… I don’t feel like a hero. I feel like I’m a soldier that was given a job, and I did my job. I think anyone would have done that.”
“This was not a battle with human beings. There was no humanity here, and my aim is to protect people. Their aim was to kill people,” Hila added.
For her part, Hagar said that there was no time to be scared. “You think about the civilians trapped in their homes and the people that needed us. You understand that there was no room for fear.”
Critics of gender integration in the military often decry it as a dangerous social experiment with potential ramifications for national security, while defenders generally trumpet it as a long-needed measure, one that has already been implemented in many Western countries.
Detractors note that some requirements for female combat soldiers have been lowered — which they say is a sign that effectiveness is being sacrificed — and that servicewomen suffer stress injuries at a higher rate.
The army insists that it is allowing more women to serve in combat positions out of practical considerations, not due to a social agenda, saying it requires all the woman- and manpower available to it.
For Raviv, the battle was proof that female combat soldiers are in the IDF to stay.
Ahh.. Judaism ain't your thing
ReplyDeleteNor are the boys' lives being squandered through integration
QED
Maybe satmar was correct about your types
(continued)
ReplyDeleteSo DIN is nominated another 'useful idiot
How many will we be obliged to carry?
Do you desire for bonafide Jewish forces, that charedim ought to join,will thoroughly crush the enemy, won't suffer many casualties (as we were once prophesied)
ReplyDeleteor you don't?
Real incredible heroes. With the help of der Eibershter they surely saved hundreds of Jewish lives.
ReplyDeleteNow if it would be Ukrainian girls in a Ukrainian war tank, this would be in the news all over the world. And Hollywood would already be producing a big huge blockbuster out of this story. But they are Israeli girls... and Jewish. So we won’t see much of this in the (corrupted) media system.
Am Ysroel Chai.
Let's ignore an explicit Mishna
ReplyDeleteבמלחמת מצוה הכל יוצאים אפילו חתן מחדרו וכלה מחופתה
I know I know you are going to tell me that the Mishna doesn't mean that, but that is a very dangerous way of looking at this Mishna, since if the Mishna really didn't mean it, then how would we ever know when the Mishna does mean it? I can say this about every Mishna "The Mishna doesn't mean that"
Except for a Radavz, (on Rambam, Melachim 7:4) (a yachid in this pshat) no one argues, the Chazon Ish (Chazon Ish, Moed 114:3) goes a step further and states that even in a discretionary war, if Israel is in danger of defeat, even those who are normally exempt must go out to fight!
So you are scratching your head thinking "are you telling me that the Chazon Ish says that women should go out to war?"
Well, why don't you look at it yourself! The Chazon was opposed that women should be in the army, but that doesn't exempt her from fighting in a war!
2:02 & 2:12 & 2:16
ReplyDeleteYou are a troll commenting first that the "women in this war, were a failure "
When I pointed out that they were actually successful, and I have more stories about the women who were able to kill Hamas and save others you resort "oh that's not Judaism" and maybe Satmar was "right about guys like me"
So I'll tell you what Judaism is...it's not what you believe, as you have a very narrow childish way of looking and understanding the matzav. You parrot the naive and uninformed Roshei Yeshiva who should really stay out of this, because they are clueless to what is really going on, and causing massive Chillul Hashems with their stupid statements!
Satmar is not Judaism and many of their youth are going off the derech. Satmar is a cult and has nothing to do with Judaism though it may try to follow some halachos, but so do Christians and for that matter Muslims. As for their Chesed, the Salvation Army also does chesed!
The Female of the Species
ReplyDeleteby Rudyard Kipling
When the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
'Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
Man's timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say,
For the Woman that God gave him isn't his to give away;
But when hunter meets with husbands, each confirms the other's tale—
The female of the species is more deadly than the male.
Man, a bear in most relations—worm and savage otherwise,—
Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.
Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
Mirth obscene diverts his anger—Doubt and Pity oft perplex
Him in dealing with an issue—to the scandal of The Sex!
But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.
She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
May not deal in doubt or pity—must not swerve for fact or jest.
These be purely male diversions—not in these her honour dwells—
She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.
She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great
As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate.
And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unclaimed to claim
Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same.
She is wedded to convictions—in default of grosser ties;
Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies!—
He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.
Unprovoked and awful charges—even so the she-bear fights,
Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons—even so the cobra bites,
Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw
And the victim writhes in anguish—like the Jesuit with the squaw!
So it comes that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
To some God of Abstract Justice—which no woman understands.
And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him
Must command but may not govern—shall enthral but not enslave him.
And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail,
That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Male.
That Kipling who expected (middle class white )women to man the pristine home front, was hardly agreeing with how you wish to imply
DeleteWhich milchemes mitzvah had women eg kallah in the forces
ReplyDeleteDIN you're welcome to jump on on,of you can
Amalek?
Midian?
The conquest of Cana'an?
Pilishtim?
Against Haman?
The Greeks ?
The romans ?
later with Bar Kochba?
Try to name any
Please,please, inform us
Try to name any
'nuff
So whatever assertions you contrive is false .As usual
Find a different hobby.
Ok Mr Anon 1:35
ReplyDeleteThis is the last time I allow your stupid childish amaratzisah comment
Go on VIN of Yeshiva World, this is not the place for you
Having said that
The conquest of Canaan didn't actually work which is why we still suffering, Yehoshua, Shaul and even Dovid Hamelech didn't finish the job and Hashem wasn't happy ...and we don't really know if women were or weren't there, you are just guessing!
We didn't finish the job with Amelek either
Pilishtim wasn't a Milchamas Mitzvah at all That war was a personal war with Shimshon Ha'gibor
Haman? You sick puppy! This wasn't in Israel this took place in Bavel!
Jews didn't have an army
The Greeks, the Romans ? Why don't you read Josephus "The war against the Jews" Women were very much involved in fighting! Remember Yehudis???>
There was no organized army and there was no recruitment at all.
Besides the Mishna was written way after all these wars. The tanaim realized