R' Eliezer Ozer Sari a resident of Mevasseret Tzion, left his home everyday at 3:00 AM to travel to Yerushalyim, went to the mikvah and then went everyday to the Kotel to davin Shachris vassikin ..
Two days ago he suddenly collapsed in the mikvah and drowned.
He was originally from Yemen....
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ReplyDeleteIt’s an extraordinarily high position to pass away immediately after cleansing oneself in a mikvah. He must have merited this because of how holy he was. What a level to admire!!
DeleteApikores!
DeleteAnd a stupid one at that!
Petro 11:39 PM,
DeleteYou know that it’s an extraordinary high position to pass away immediately after cleansing himself in a Mikva? He must have merited this? On what basis do you make such a definitive assertion?
Perhaps a Hashem killed him in a mikva because he molested someone there. Mida K’Neged Mida!
Boruch dayan ha'emes.We don't know why Hashem had him pass away like this. Sometimes when a person passes away doing a mitzva, it shows that the mitzva was the person's raison d'être.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 12:58 AM,
ReplyDeleteAnd you definitively know that Hashem had him pass away like this in the mikva because it was the deceased’s raison d’être?
You know this to be true? How? Or are you just speculating?
Abe said...
ReplyDeleteAbe, you are a filthy evil piece of human garbage.
DIN,i congratulate you for deleting this rat's disgusting comment
Anonymous 9:42 AM,
DeleteI don’t remember what I said that is causing you to foam at the mouth. If you or DIN remember kindly let me know.
Rabbi February 2, 2020 at 9:42 AM,
ReplyDeleteAbe 3:27 PM is a disgusting rat? And you are a tiny shriveled piece of snake to be kissed and worshiped? Sorry that the Corona-virus is giving you and bats such a bad name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_worship
Petro is saying like a Chazal that a Bas Kol praised one of the Asara Harugei Malchus that he was zoyche to die bikdusha.
ReplyDeleteAnd it does say in seforim that since the last moment of someone's life can clinch it, it is a zchus to die while performing a mitzva or chalila puronus to die while doing farkert.
BDE
It escaped me for a moment that there was a mayseh about 120 years ago in a small town in northern France. A yungerman had spent years painstakingly raising funds for the mikva. By the inauguration mesiba his 4 year old son entered when no one was looking & drowned. The tatteh was oiss mentch. Zu Torah vzu schara? He fell into a deep depression & was on the doorstep of death. The 4 year old made a desperate appeal to the Beis Din shel Mayla, that usually darkei Shomayim are not revealed but they have to make an exception now to save him from being niftar from a broken hartz. They poskened they will takka be misgaleh this time. The 4 year old came to him ba'chaloym & identified himself as from the Kedoishim. The tatteh was confused. Kedoishim? He was a little yingel who drowned in a mikva. The neshomo explained that before he was this yingela he was a young Baal Tosfos who was on his way to being from the gedolei hador when the Crusaders ymach shmom shed his blood. At that moment there was a huge raash in Shomayim and it was decreed that for him to get to the highest place in Oylam Haboh he needed one more finishing touch to the kedusha. Ashrecha he told the tatten az nit nor there is no teviya on him but he was zoyche to be the shaliach. The tatteh then recovered & was able to live with himself.
ReplyDeleteBrisker 10:08AM,
Delete“..There was a mayseh about 120 years ago ...”
Is this another one of your Rebbeshe Bubbe Meises? What was the name of the yumgerman, his son and French town?
And “ the 4 year old made a desperate plea to the Bays Din Shel Mayla...” Any documentation for this? Do you really believe this baloney?
Brisker 8:52 AM,
ReplyDeleteWhich Chazal? Who said it? Which seforim, and who individually said that the last moment of someone’s life can clinch it? It’s a Schuster to die while performing a mitzvah? Says who?
It seems to contradict שלוחי מצוה אינן ניזוקין. פסחים ח ע"א
11:22
ReplyDeleteWhy can't this story be true?
Even if it was only a dream..... this dream gave the father "chizuk" to go on with his life
The father believed the story and that is all that counts ...
Sometimes people have dreams while they are going thru hell and it gives them "chizuk"
I think it's a beautiful story .......
We never know what will be the "makkah be'patish" that makes people under stress go on ...
Dus 12:26 AM,
DeleteWhy can’t the story be true? Without evidence you can’t say it’s true.This tale occurred about 120 years ago. But there are no details. What town in northern France? Name of the family and child? Without evidence the entire “meiseh” is a Bubbe Meiseh.
Nice feel-good tall tale, but just another Rebbishe fairy tale.
Asara Harugei Malchus is actually a bit of a complicated sugya in it's entirety. You will notice there are differences in the nusach from Kinnos Tisha b'Av to Mussaf of Yom Kippur. This is due to many different girsaos in Chazal. Why is that? Because the 10 Hy"d were murdered over a long period of time.
ReplyDeleteThe primary places to look are various Gemaras in Avoda Zara & Sanhedrin, then Medrash Eicha, then a Medrash called Eileh Ezkera which is published in the back of a sefer from the Vilna Gaon's son called Rav Paalim. And there are other tidbits in various other Medrashim.
In the Yom Kippur version it's mashma from Rebbi Elazar ben Shamua being killed during Kiddush. In the Kinnos version where Rebbi Chanina ben Chachinai was the one making Kiddush, it says bfeirush in that Medrash that the Bas Kol cried out.
Which seforim seize on this to apply all over? I have seen it in seforim multiple times & heard it in various shmuzen & shiurim but I can't exactly nail it right now. It might be in Mesilas Yeshorim because I heard it in a shiur on that sefer.
Maybe Abe is bothered by the fact that spooky giluyim today are very rare if they even still exist. But it was just a very short while ago that we still had among us very hayligeh Yidden who had chaloymos of mamashus. And as recent as the 1700s there were Yidden who could actually observe a din Torah in Shomayim in person & live to tell about it.
That story in France is not dissimilar to one that R' Chaim Brisker had as a 7 year old child. The Brisker Rov would say it over. And there were plenty of witnesses including the top doctor in the city of Brisk. He was in a coma with no hope to survive when he suddenly opened his eyes & sat up shouting he will live! He explained that a neshoma came to relate to him that the beis din above poskened he will be niftar - until the neshoma came as a character witness, forcing them to overturn the decision. The neshoma's son was a yasom together in cheder with little Chaim Soloveitchik who was always looking out for the yasom and anyone else downtrodden.
France - there is a mechaber who for reasons unknown to the public almost never reveals his sources. Some of his maysos are well known and many people know what sefer brings it. It gets a little tricky with his other stories but I do know that some talmidei chochomim investigated and found that anything they looked at had a source but sometimes there are multiple girsos and the mechaber will pick the one that is the hardest to reconcile with known facts. When this guy wrote about the Rambam being a kid at risk who the R"Y miGaash was mekarev I personally spent weeks trying to get to the bottom of it. There are various girsos which cannot exist with each other but I could find no absolute proof that the girsa he chose has to be wrong. I even found clues that it may be the most accurate one, despite being the girsa that is the least publicly known. Supposedly there is proof for this girsa in one of the seforim written by the Rambam's grandchildren. I had a very hard time getting my hands on these seforim from both distributors & private collectors. I was one of several yungerleit looking for the seforim because some rabbonim want to use it as proof to blast the Monsey yeshiva administrators who keep 100s of kids from enrolling, that they are not only the velt's lowlife achzorim but also reckless for sabotaging future mini-Rambams.
ReplyDeleteNo worries everyone, Abe means well. He is probably just an atheist who believes in science. Everything else hurts him because someone hurt Abe very badly.
ReplyDeleteAbe, I think you should focus your energy on taking down or discounting people who hurt others. It will make you happier. Because the average religious person will be more receptive to your position and help your cause.
Screaming from the rooftops on everyone religious will just make everyone who can help your cause ignore you. As per Einstein: "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."