What? What kind of headline is this?
Eida Hachreidis? Feeding Jews .... trief????
Absolutely!!!
Eida Hachreidis? Feeding Jews .... trief????
Absolutely!!!
Brakel Chicken |
The Eida Hachreidis in Yerushalyim and the Hisachdis Ha'Ganovim in Williamsburg managed in one decade to entirely change the entire perspective of kashrus in the entire Heimishe Jewish world with their false propaganda.
They managed to convince the Chareidie communities that only "Heimishe" Hashgachos are reliable and that the OU in the USA and the Rabbanut in Israel are "chazer trief."
It's true that the Rabbanut needs a lot of work, but after reading this post, you will find that the Rabbanut is far more reliable than the Eidah..... in fact all kashrus scandals emanating from the US and most from Israel are only from so called "heimishe" hashgachos.
The big "chicken" scandal in Monsey was from a very "reliable" hashgacha!
Background:
I was waiting to post about the Brakel Chicken, until I got the total picture from all sides of this controversy.
So here goes...
The Eidah Hachreidis is a money grubbing machine that needs millions of shekels to oil their greasy wheels.... and so they came up with a great plan .......
They (the Eidah Hachreidis mafia) convinced Rav Shmuel Wosner z"l, and Rav Nissim Karalitz, that there is reason to be concerned that commercially-farmed chicken might not have a "Mesorah" of kashrus!
And so the Eida Mafia got them to rule, not that the chicken that we ate for years is trief ....... no ....that would put the entire Orthodox community into a head-spin that they could never possibly recover, but that there is "CONCERN" that our chicken may not have a "Mesorah!"
They couldn't actually come up with a "treif" psak because nobody would ever believe any Gadols' psak ever again .... since our chicken have "heimishe" hashgachois" ..how could it be "trief?"!!!
The reason the Rabbis gave for the "concern," was due to the "prevalence of hybridization in the chicken industry.
Nobody knows what that means!
So now that they planted a doubt in the minds of gullible Rabbis, the crooks, the financial directors of the Eidah established the "taharas ha'ofos (bird purity) committee... " to publicize that our chickens have no "Mesorah" and recruited the chasidishe Baal tzedakah, R' Berel Weiss to fund this new initiative.
But before this new committee could declare our chicken trief, they had to conduct a search for a "pure unadulterated chicken." Meanwhile, they reasoned, let the Oilim Golim eat "treif."
It wasn't long before they found a chicken that had never been subject to any "hybridization."
I think that Mr. Perdue z"l is rolling in his grave, because he claimed on the tumidike TV that his chickens were pure and not "a hybrid."
I think that Mr. Perdue z"l is rolling in his grave, because he claimed on the tumidike TV that his chickens were pure and not "a hybrid."
THE BRAKEL.....
Let's stop here for a moment to contemplate what happened until I go further....
If our chicken isn't in our "Mesorah" ..... why wasn't it so declared publicly? What does the "psak" ... "concern" exactly mean? Is it kosher or not?
Lets Go back to The Brakel ..... The Brakel is a chicken that Belgium farmers use for the eggs only, they throw the meat away .... why? because The Brakel tastes like a cross between horse manure and human vomit!
But the Eidah saw $$$$$$$$$$ signs and could care less how it tastes ....they were going to come out with a "psak" that our chicken is not our Mesorah and the foul tasting Brakel is our Mesorah, even though no body ever heard of it ....
They got Chassiddishe investors to pour untold millions of dollars into this new "lucrative" business, and started the process to farm these crappy tasting chickens.....
To back their new money making enterprise they went to the Bnei Brak Beis Din, headed by Rav Moshe Shaul Klein and presented their case ..... Rav Klein managed to scrape together some antique old senile Shochtim from nursing homes, and they managed to babble that they had in fact slaughtered these birds before...
There was one big huge problem ..........their very own Rabbi, the Raavad of the Eidah Hachareidis, Rav Moshe Sternbuch, took one look at the bird, the Brakel, and said that "its trief," and added, he doubts that the Brakel is a chicken at all.
Rav Sternbuch went further and said that any shochet who slaughters a Brakel should be disqualified from shechting ever again.
Rav Sternbuch went further and said that any shochet who slaughters a Brakel should be disqualified from shechting ever again.
They panicked, short of killing Rav Sternbuch, what do they do? ....Millions of dollars were invested, with assurances to the wealthy Chassidim that they would get this vomit tasting chicken approved as the only "Mesorah" chicken.
And to add to their chagrin, the Rabbi of the Bnei Brak Beis Din, Rav Moshe Shaul Klein's rebbe is the Vizhniter Rebbe who outlawed the Brakel!
One Rav of Bnei Brak took the initiative to get to the bottom of this controversy..... Rav Moshe Yehuda Leib Landa, went to the Brakel farm in Beit Shemesh and surprised the farmers but they wouldn't let him in to inspect the farm .... they finally gave in .... and after a significant amount of time, Rav Landa came out with an unequivocal decision:
The Brakel is trief; it has no connection with any birds that Jews have ever eaten in the past.
Then came the "Makkah Be'Patish" so to speak, a talmud of Rav Wosner z"l, (the posek who put a doubt on the Mesorah of our chickens,) Rav Avraham Rubin instructed all the slaughterhouses and shochtim under his hashgacha (Badatz Mehadrin) that if a Brakel was ever shechted, even if only accidentally, the entire facility and all utensils would need to be kashered.
Then came the "Makkah Be'Patish" so to speak, a talmud of Rav Wosner z"l, (the posek who put a doubt on the Mesorah of our chickens,) Rav Avraham Rubin instructed all the slaughterhouses and shochtim under his hashgacha (Badatz Mehadrin) that if a Brakel was ever shechted, even if only accidentally, the entire facility and all utensils would need to be kashered.
And so the Eidah Hachreidis ran around like poisoned rats to shop for a prominent Rav that would put a kashrus stamp on this foul tasting Brakel, having had so much money invested in this fiasco.
They found a Rav in New York, R' Zalmon Leib Teitelbaum, Satmar Rebbe of Williamsburg, who is associated with the Hisachdas Ha' Ganovim, and he came out with the following statement ... that was signed by his Dayan Rav Moshe Shaul Klein and Rav Moshe Zev Zarger..
They found a Rav in New York, R' Zalmon Leib Teitelbaum, Satmar Rebbe of Williamsburg, who is associated with the Hisachdas Ha' Ganovim, and he came out with the following statement ... that was signed by his Dayan Rav Moshe Shaul Klein and Rav Moshe Zev Zarger..
"We maintain our earlier opinion that the Brakel that was brought to us and examined is even more tahor than other birds, and may be eaten and enjoyed l'mhadrin min hamehadrin"
Rav Zarger added "When I saw the chickens called Brakel, I immediately recognized them as the birds I saw as a Child.""""
I don't know about you guys but I had a very hard time to get my little children to eat our chickens ..... I wish Rav Klein and Rav Zarger good luck trying to feed a chicken that tastes like road kill to their grand children.
Meanwhile, after the R' Zalman Leib's ruling that chicken that tastes like vomit is kosher "l'mhadrin min hamehadrin"
his brother, R' Aaron Teitelbaum, Samar Rebbe Monroe, came out with a two-page ruling that the Brakel is "Chazir Treif....
Now the ruling of R' Aron is very important, since he has the largest Chareidi slaughterhouse for chickens in the New York area which is situated in Kiryas Yoel, where about 60,000 chickens are slaughtered every day.
And so last week, our friend R' Berel Weiss, who funded this disastrous Eidah Hachreidi shenanigan to feed Treif Birds to Chareidim, informed the Eidah that he has decided to close the Brakel poultry farms despite the fact that he would suffer a great financial loss.
Pass the buffalo wings .....
What can we expect from dreikops,always twisting everything into oblivion.
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ReplyDeleteDid you even understand one word from this article? You UPGERISENE MARMAROSHER FERD this is way beyond your comprehension
Please don't mix in something you don't understand
2017 at 10:40 PM---What is there to understand when greed is the motive it is vey simple make more money anywhich way you can
ReplyDeleteOh wow all of a sudden you became a posek? And btw since when do you care about kashrus or about feeding treif, i didn't see a word of protest from you about the following story
ReplyDeleteR”L fed non-kosher during a recent educational event at Latrun, Kol Berama Radio reported.
The incident took place last week, during which the soldiers were taken to a local restaurant in which a local Rabbinate certificate of kashrus was displayed. The soldiers were served ‘pasta with chicken’, which contained cheese R”L. Soldiers noticed the combination as they were eating.
To begin with, the fact that they were taken to a restaurant with a regular and non-mehadrin certification is itself a violation of the terms of Nachal Chareidi operations. The kashrus supervision was that of Rabbanut Mate Yehuda. The IDF Rabbinate is probing the matter.
The Mate Yehuda Rabbinate explains, “The food arrived with stickers from the Tel Aviv Rabbinate marked ‘parve’. The Tel Aviv Rabbinate explains “The product left with ‘basari (meat)’ markings on it and the change must have occurred in the Latrun restaurant”.
Of course you didn't mention it because your twisted sick mind is programmed to see nothing on real פושעי ישראל only against real frum Jews
And as usual you'll delete this comment big deal
at 10:46 AMYou are paranoid to the angst.
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ReplyDeleteI am not "all of a sudden a posek" ....how do you know that I'm not??? and you only have be a child to see that the Eidah Hachreidis was ready to feed the Chareidie Tzibbur Treif only because of greed!
Even if it was a sofeik tried ...they should have abandoned their crazy idea ..
The incident that you mention where soldiers of the Nachal Brigade were taken to a restaurant and were "served pasta with chicken ...which contained cheese" turned out not to be true ....
But what did happen was that the restaurant wasn't from the thieving Eidah Hachreidis or like you put it "non-Mehadrin" .....
Things like that happen unfortunately once in a while with all hashgachas and is far more prevalent with the Heimishe hashgachos than with the Rabbanut.....and you yourself admit that the IDF Rabbinate is probing the matter...
With the Brakel chicken you had the Eida Hachreidis itself pushing a "chicken" that they knew was problematic , since their very own Rav ...Rav Sternbuch proclaimed the chicken "Chazir Treif"....but pushed it anyway so not to lose millions .... The Brakel chicken never had any Mesorah ...and the only Mesorah that THE BRAKEL had that it wasn't a hybrid, was from Goyishieh Farmers that said so ....
would you eat from a chicken that a goy said wasn't a hybrid .....
So the anti-Zioists were ready to feed ...not a couple of soldiers, trief ....but the entire Chareidishe tzibbur in the entire world ...treif! All for money ...
I didn't delete your comment this time because you didn't curse ...
usually you curse your own brothers and sisters that don't agree with your very sick and bizarre understanding of what the RBS"O wants from us .....and its in the very first verse of this weeks parish ...
Ve'haya Ki Sahvoih El Haaretz >...
DIN, just to be clear; you're not a posek, correct?
ReplyDelete"The incident that you mention where soldiers of the Nachal Brigade were taken to a restaurant and were "served pasta with chicken ...which contained cheese" turned out not to be true"
ReplyDeleteI had not heard that, I'd love a link to your source just so I could see it. Haven't seen any follow-up on any websites.
Les AyM
ReplyDeleteThe source is right here when I made my comment 11:24 ....I am the source
I am pretty close to higher ups in the IDF and specially to that unit ...
Wait until the IDF Rabbinute comes out with their report, I think, next week...
Meanwhile I don't see you commenting about a Chareidie Kashrus Organization, The Eidah, that is systematically, and is still, trying to feed Frum Jews a chicken that the majority poskim say is Chazzir Treif...
Why are you so obsessed with an incident that the Rabbinute is looking into....?
Even if it turns out it happened ...the IDF are not Chareidim ...they are not our Gedoilim.... yet here we have a Kashrus Agency, relied upon by the majority of Chreidie Jews, who chose to perpetrate a crime... knowingly feeding innocent Jews ... chazzir ....
In the Hareidi world, this is what's considered important!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThey are all fools, and not one of them is worthy of being either a Rav or even less a Gadol. The intellectual pygmies that run the Gangster Mafia that is the charedi world, are insects of zero intelligence compared to their predecessors.
Decades of separation, deliberate ignorance and in-breeding have created a stunted non-questioning group who live not to serve Hashem, but their so-called spiritual leaders.
We get the leaders we deserve - as we are seeing today.
Crooks, thieves and intellectual dwarves focussing on minutia like this rather than the real world.
You couldn't make this nonsense up.
7:39 AM, mamash sheker! Don't post things like that!
ReplyDeleteThanks for your well-reasoned response Aish.
ReplyDeleteYou make my point exactly.
Primitive.
No. If you got to know me, you would see that I am actually very open-minded. I accept and respect people not just who wear one kind of clothing or talk a certain way. (May Hashem forgive me for any Gaavah involved in these lines).
ReplyDeleteHowever, as for your comment, when you spew something as untrue as that, and perhaps cause others to believe it as well, C"V, then I must say something strong.
You must understand that it is wrong to speak that way. However, please be mochel me if I spoke too harshly.
September 6, 2017 at 2:05 PM---Your trouble is that you are a very nice guy and nice guys finish last,dont be a fool see things as they are and not the way you want them to be 7:39 is right on he is describing the chassidishe world very eloquently it is a very very corrupt cult,
ReplyDeleteAgain, you are all describing only PART of the Chareidi world.
ReplyDeleteThe holy amshinaver rebbe and is people now only eat turkey...
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