Rav Shernbuch, the fanatic leader of a handful of Neturei Karta, who recently turned on him because he allowed a developer to build in Beit Shemesh, said that the recent fires in Israel are not because of any arsonists but because of those who are Mechalleil Shabbos!
Harav Kook said the fires happened because of a Tzaddik [Berland] (who admitted that he is a rapist) sitting in jail!
The Palestinians are saying the fires are because the Israelis are finally stopping the Arabs from using megaphones to call for prayer!
Satmar already said that "Zionism" is the cause, though they blamed the murder of 6 million Jews also on the Zionists, and they would have blamed the two Churban Bais Hamikdashs' and the expulsion of Jews in England and Spain, and the Inquisition, and the Crusades and the Cheleminski Pogroms on the Zionists, except the Zionists didn't exist then ..
Satmar already said that "Zionism" is the cause, though they blamed the murder of 6 million Jews also on the Zionists, and they would have blamed the two Churban Bais Hamikdashs' and the expulsion of Jews in England and Spain, and the Inquisition, and the Crusades and the Cheleminski Pogroms on the Zionists, except the Zionists didn't exist then ..
Tomorrow there will be Gedoilim that will say that it is because of the Reform Jews at the Kotel!
I say its because of terrorists, who hate Jews ...and who are trying to destroy Israel...and who need to be thrown out of the country if not destroyed!
We are forgetting the Chazal:
כל המרחם על אכזרים, סופו שיתאכזר על רחמנים
There is always a villain ...
ReplyDeleteThe easiest one is the one closest to you ...
DIN,you are right on,the reason Israel is burning is because Jews don't do what the HALACHA tells them to do " HABO LEHARGOCH HASHKEIM VHORGO",Israel is the only country that over 20% of it"s own citizens are avowed murderous enemies of their own state which they live in,this is an untenable and suicidal situation,there is only one solution to this cancer,and it is Meir Kahane's solution "THEY ALL MUST GO" short of that is nothing but suicide.
ReplyDeleteand as far as rav Moishe Shternbuch is concerned,does any normal person take seriously what these ignorant Israel hating savages have to say ?,these same criminally insane savages tell us that the reason six million Jews including 1,500,000 jewish children were murdered by the Nazi's was because of the sin of zionism for wanting to establish a jewish state God enabled the nazi's to murder over six million jews,these savages belong in an insane asylum and not in a rabbinic organization
None of us really know the reason. We cannot comprehend Hashem's master plan. We do know that it will all end up for the best though. But I will say one thing: I would be much more apt to trust what a great Rav or Rebbe says than your opinion DIN. (No offense....)
ReplyDeletei thought it was bc of the smartphones
ReplyDeleteSo, for once, it's not women's skirt length that is too blame for such a catastrophe. Now there's a surprise!
ReplyDeleteOf course the Arab Reshaim are the ones doing it but we Jews believe in Midda Kineged Middaa. Ayin Gemara Shabbos and look at the first page of the aruch Hashulchan hilchos Shabbos where he says fires are caused by chillul shabbos. What does that mean? Isnt it the oven that was left on that caused fires in the gemara or aruch hashulchan? Yes, but we also believe that Hashem does things for a reason. Basic Torah Hashkafa. (I'm not saying rav shturnbach is right or wrong just saying your taayna on him doesnt make sense.)
ReplyDeleteAnd remember what Chazal say Apikores- zeh hmivazeh talmud chocham. Rav Shternbuch is a gaon and a tzaddik and although you may wrongly think you can disagree with him that doesn't give you a licence to be mevazeh him. You are just as bad as the anti-zionists (who you attack) who are mevazeh every zionist rav. You are mevazeh a respected gadol because of his views. Oy lecha miyom hadin. Whats worse you truly believe you are lsheim shomayim instead of stopping for a second and thinking about what you say.
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ReplyDeleteRav Shternbuch has no respect for Gedoilei Yisroel that don't agree with him ...
And your'e comment "that Chillul shabbos cause fires" is not for R' Shternbach to say publicly ...because in the US more Jews are Mechallel Shabbos than ever ...and they are living in nice homes..fire free..
so to same something that people will make choizik ... causes a Huge Chillul Hashem ...,
And I didn't see you sticking up for him when his own Neturei Karta were protesting him and shoving him and calling him "Yemach Shmo"...I don't see you sticking up for this "Talmud Chachim"????
Good point din he shouldn't just shoot off his mouth no matter how big he isn't
DeleteHow can we try to give a reason? Since when can we comprehend the Divine Wisdom behind this?
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ReplyDeletelast night there was a fire ay yeshiva pnei Shmuel in Bayit Vagan, was there chilul Shabos there? This is not a zioni institution. Fires could happen for chilul shabbas or for other reasons. # 12,17 is right.
Is everyone alright at Yeshivas P'nei Shmuel, I hope?
ReplyDeleteb"h ok
ReplyDeleteBaruch Hashem. May Hashem stop things like that fire from occuring in the future, Amein vi'Amein.
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