Parents... you guys are in real trouble... get used to your kids getting chicken pox, whooping cough, polio, mumps, and measles very very soon...
Listening to these "gedoilim" may get your children very sick at best or even die Chas V'esholom at worst!
These insane rulings are going to get us all killed! And they call it "Daas Torah?"
Call the signers, Rabbi Shmuel Kaminetzky, Rav Mattiyahu Salomon,and Rav Malkiel Kotler and tell them to stick to halacha and not get involved in medicine!
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ReplyDeleteWhat about boys who wear brown shoes in mesivta or girls who wear short socks on days off or children who comes from homes with TV's or unfiltered internet? Should they be accepted? I feel so proud that these RY's know more than doctors! On a serious note, you can't make this stuff up!
ReplyDeleteIt's very sad but R' Shmuel's rebbitzen spent years "educating" herself from propaganda of the anti-vaccine quacks (where else but on the internet) and has styled herself as a medical expert. She is the driving force behind all this
ReplyDeleteMakes no sense to me. And I suspect that they are twisting or misunderstanding R' Chaim Kanievsky. Even if he said you can't keep out unvaccinated kids it doesn't mean he holds no vaccines.
ReplyDeleteR' Chaim's shver is Rav Elyashev who I believe holds it is a chiyuv to be vaccinated. Not mistaber R' Chaim is going against his shver, the posek hador.
Wait a second- do I understand this completely?
ReplyDeleteSo two top Lakewood rabbis and R. Kamenetsky rule that its forbidden to deny admission to a yeshiva to children who have not been vaccinated. Read the text of the statement- which contains language and applies logic that’s completely perverted.
The Lakewood Rabbis are R. Solomon and Kotler.
Aren’t these Rabbeim the poskim and Gedolim who are associated with Agudas Yisroel? That’s the mutual affiliation, isn’t it?
But wait: look at this story out of Baltimore-last week:
http://baltimorejewishlife.com/news/news-detail.php?SECTION_ID=1&ARTICLE_ID=63134
Maryland’s Attorney General has clarified that a religious exemption from being vaccinated is NOT applicable to private religious and other schools; hence the Yeshiva (in this case) can’t be forced to admit such a child.
But wait! Look who is applauding this important decision to protect the health of students, teachers, and administrators:
“This is a very important health issue for the students, parents, teachers, and administrators in our schools,” stated Rabbi Ariel Sadwin, Annapolis representative for Agudath Israel of Maryland - Mid-Atlantic Region. “Delegates Hettleman and Rosenberg understood the gravity of the concerns expressed by the schools and enabled them to convey those concerns directly to the Attorney General’s Office.”
When it comes to the Agudah’s attempt to enter the public discourse, they often look like hypocrites talking out of both sides of their mouth. What a load!
I’m telling you: you can’t make this stuff up.
To answer Fred's question, the Kaminetzkys are a fringe opinion on vaccines that basically no one agreed with until they managed to convince a couple of rabbis in Lakewood & a couple in Israel.
ReplyDeleteNone of the big names are backing the anti-vaccine position.
Rav solomon isnt so well right now. I doubt he has much to do with this. The other rabbonims wives are anti vaccines. This is a little crazy. Notice how the other lkwd roshei yeshivos dont have their name on there.
ReplyDeleteThe Rabbis a certainly misinformed about vaccine injuries please click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_injury From 1988 until March 3, 2011, 5,636 claims relating to autism, and 8,119 non-autism claims, were made to the VICP. 2,620 of these claims, one autism-related, were compensated, with 4,463 non-autism and 814 autism claims dismissed; awards (including attorney's fees) totaled over $2 billion. The VICP also applies to claims for injuries suffered before 1988; there were 4,264 of these claims of which 1,189 were compensated with awards totaling $903 million.[9] As of September 2017, over 2,000 individuals have been paid a total of nearly $3.8 billion since the VICP began in 1988.[12] That’s over 15000 vaccine injuries vs. 17 children in the US. Here the link in case you still a nonbeliever https://www.justice.gov/civil/vicp
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