I am telling you guys that Satmar is going the way of Reform and Conservative Jewry!
In this weeks issue of Der Goy, they carry a story about the Shinyaver Rebbe, the son of the Sanzer Rebbe.
These Romanian haters of the land that the RBS"O gave us, claim that when the Shinyaver Rebbe's grandchild, got very sick, the doctor suggested that the child drink a specific wine that can either be a gentile wine (Yayin Nesech) or Carmel wine which had then just been introduced. The Shinyaver Rebbe said that they should give the child Yayin Nesech rather than the Zionist wine Carmel!
Here is a loose translation: I will start with the second paragraph...
Headline: About Using the Zionist Carmel Wine
When his [the Shinyaver Rebbe] grandchild Harav Hagoen Mee'koloshiz was a young child, he got very sick, and an expert advised the family to offer the child a certain wine that was only available either by a gentile company or by the Zionist factory "Carmel."
The Zionists in those days established the Carmel Company in many countries, using the income for settling Eretz Yisroel.
When the "great" grandfather, The Holy One from Shinyev Z'L, heard about it, he prohibited them using Carmel Wine. He suggested they use regular Goyishe wine.....
saying: "Carmel is Yayin Nesech, and if the child is so sick that he is allowed to drink gentile yayin nesech, then it is far better that he drink the Goyishe yayin nesech than Carmel yayin nesech. Because if he drank Carmel that would be "maras ayin" ... people seeing this, .... would say that by the Shinyaver Rebbe, ....when there is no choice, they drink Zionist wine...
and that's what they in fact did!
DIN: This is how far those Roumanian gypsies would go.... putting in this weird and bizarre work of fiction to bolster their fanatical hate against their brothers and sisters!
By the way, when the Chofetz Chayim z"l once received a bottle of Carmel wine, he stood up ...and said he stands up for any wine that was produced in Eretz Yisroel!
I don't believe the Shinyaver Wine Story; it's all fantasy , It's a fabric of someone's demented imagination.
I am sure they made it all up ... and put it in Der Goy to perpetuate their Sinas Chinom!
In this weeks issue of Der Goy, they carry a story about the Shinyaver Rebbe, the son of the Sanzer Rebbe.
These Romanian haters of the land that the RBS"O gave us, claim that when the Shinyaver Rebbe's grandchild, got very sick, the doctor suggested that the child drink a specific wine that can either be a gentile wine (Yayin Nesech) or Carmel wine which had then just been introduced. The Shinyaver Rebbe said that they should give the child Yayin Nesech rather than the Zionist wine Carmel!
Here is a loose translation: I will start with the second paragraph...
Headline: About Using the Zionist Carmel Wine
When his [the Shinyaver Rebbe] grandchild Harav Hagoen Mee'koloshiz was a young child, he got very sick, and an expert advised the family to offer the child a certain wine that was only available either by a gentile company or by the Zionist factory "Carmel."
The Zionists in those days established the Carmel Company in many countries, using the income for settling Eretz Yisroel.
When the "great" grandfather, The Holy One from Shinyev Z'L, heard about it, he prohibited them using Carmel Wine. He suggested they use regular Goyishe wine.....
saying: "Carmel is Yayin Nesech, and if the child is so sick that he is allowed to drink gentile yayin nesech, then it is far better that he drink the Goyishe yayin nesech than Carmel yayin nesech. Because if he drank Carmel that would be "maras ayin" ... people seeing this, .... would say that by the Shinyaver Rebbe, ....when there is no choice, they drink Zionist wine...
and that's what they in fact did!
DIN: This is how far those Roumanian gypsies would go.... putting in this weird and bizarre work of fiction to bolster their fanatical hate against their brothers and sisters!
By the way, when the Chofetz Chayim z"l once received a bottle of Carmel wine, he stood up ...and said he stands up for any wine that was produced in Eretz Yisroel!
I don't believe the Shinyaver Wine Story; it's all fantasy , It's a fabric of someone's demented imagination.
I am sure they made it all up ... and put it in Der Goy to perpetuate their Sinas Chinom!
You misquote gemaras now you'e misquoting the Chofetz Chaim. Are you drunk?
ReplyDeleteThe story of the Chofetz Chayim standing up for a bottle of Carmel wine is brought down in the book distributed by Feldheim describing the first frum settlers in Eretz Yisroel in the 1800 's..
ReplyDeleteI also heard the story many years ago from the son-in-law of the Chofetz Chaim ... Rav Zaks.
I suspect these Romanisher peasants may be making stuff up as they go along.
ReplyDeleteCarmel first exported wine to Europe in 1896. The Shinover (who was a Galitzianer) was niftar in 1898. So I was already suspicious about the 1 or 2 year window of possibility. And it's not like even then it was first available everywhere.
The "little boy" Koloshitzer was 12 years old in 1896, already wearing tefillin in hachono for the bar mitzva.
The Romanisher are into a shtik similar to Lubavitch. Romanisher try to drag every Poilisher, Litvisher & Yekkisher into a fantasy land of supposedly being in agreement with their fanatical anti-Zionism. Lubavitch does the same thing to find outsiders who are supposedly chassidim of the Rebbe (shlita).
Die Goyteh speaks Yiddish.... Haaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaa...
ReplyDeleteL'chol Hapoochis.......
Now sporting a $2.99 hat picked up at National Wholesale Liquidators.... better than spending it on Die Goyteh. On the other hand.......