The Neturei Karta snakes, have launched a fierce attack against Chareidi IDF soldiers in honor of Chanukah.
This time, posters distributed throughout Chareidi neighborhoods in Jerusalem present the soldiers as the "Hellenists of our generation" - the enemy in the traditional Channukah story who attempted to sway that period's Jews from their Judaism.
The graphic sign features a cartoon depicting a Chareidi soldier with his face distorted into a pig's and sitting on the back of an elephant as the troops of Antiochus (Alexander the Great - villain of Channukah story - ed.) march chasing Chareidi children.
At the top of the sign, is a group of Charedi soldiers chanting. "Torah is not kosher, no no, we do not have tzniut (modesty), no no, that licentiousness is our company and the sword is our pride, it is our hope to help our government campaign to introduce Hellenism to our generation, and we have no part in the God of our fathers."
"Who are Hellenists at this time?" the caption in the center reads. "Every child knows: these hardakim (pejorative term combining word for 'vermin' and Chareidi - ed.).
At the bottom of the sign is a caption in the spirit of the "Al HaNissim" traditional blessing for Chanukah on miracles.
"When the conviction was given on your people Israel to forget Your Torah and break Your Laws and Your Will [. . .] within a fence around fences is a garden of roses."
Ironically, the Chofetz Chaim - the Rabbi known for his works on improper speech and slander - is featured on one corner of the poster.
It is important to note that the Chofetz Chaim particularly condemned poor speech about a particular religious or social group within Judaism.
Posters inciting hatred against Chareidi IDF soldiers have become common in Chareidi neighborhoods in Jerusalem and elsewhere over the past year.
In recent months, the IDF has confirmed that officers and soldiers living in Cidi - have been subject to physical and verbal abuse.
Recently, Arutz Sheva exposed a particularly shocking and similar campaign in which Chareidi soldiers were literally portrayed as pigs just a month or so after dozens gave their lives in Operation Protective Edge.
The offensive cartoon was even gleefully shared by Hamas.
I have long ago stopped considering the NK to be jews. These are low life animals who are all poster children for birth control. The best part of them was dabbed up in tissues.
ReplyDeleteSince you're mentioning something about the Chofetz Chaim, don't be lazy and go learn the Chofetz Chaim NOT just one sentence,and you'll find out that he clearly states the opposite of your twisted mind, and btw there's a sefer from his great talmid Reb Elchonon Wasserman all the statements from the Chofetz Chaim against Zionism and the tragedies cv that's gonna happen if they will succeed establishing a state,
ReplyDeleteAND TO SERVE THE ZIONISTS ATHEIST REGIME IS LIKE SERVING NAZI GERMANY THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE
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ReplyDeleteTurns out the Chofetz Chayim and Rav Elchonon were right........
6 million Jews were tragically murdered but not in Israel but in Chutz L'eretz in Europe...
so those tragedies did actually come true... notice that all those tragedies occurred BEFORE the State was established.
though those Jews who did have the seichel to leave and make Aliyah ... saved themselves and their families...
like the Satmar Rebbe and the Belzer and Gerrer Rebbes......
"Turns out the Chofetz Chaim and Rav Elchonon Wasserman were right" etc.
DeleteAnd yes unfortunately 6 million Jews were murdered thanks to Zionism as the Chofetz Chaim and Rav Elchonon Wasserman warned ahead of time
And YES BG, greenbaum and benzvi ym"s said it loud and clear RAK BEDAM TIYEH LANU ES HAORETZ
Who's this skinny man with the long,long white beard sweeping the floor, overgrown finger & toenails a yard long, sitting on an old stool, bent knees sunk knee-deep in old calendars, almanacs,news clipping and horoscopes trying to prove that today isn't Tuesday? Then he curses the day because it don't add up to his 8o-year old clippings .Why does reality scare him?
ReplyDeleteHe's of course our buddy Seymour who can't get enough of last year's frozen zombie latkes in Crisco.
Just drove past a cottage with a quiet garden .... Sign says for the 'Nish Mit Alemen" citizens..Some sitting, smoking joints, inhaling opium... all slept for 65 years... believe themselves to be Rip Van Winkles..
the Derby...
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ReplyDeletePlease show us when and where they said ..it
and even if they did..... so what?
The facts don't lie...facts are very stubborn..
the facts are that 6, million Jews were murdered not in Palestine but in Europe..and they were murdered before the State was established...
and now ... notice every time there is anti-Semitism in any country in Europe ... where do Jews run?
Kiryas Yoel? New Square? ... NOoooooo
they run where the "smart" Jews ran away from the Nazis with their families .....to Israel!
And, again, who were the "smart" Jews that didn't listen to Rav Elchonen? and the Chofetz Chayim?
The Satmar Rebbe and his family, the Belzer Rebbe and his family, the Gerrer Rebbe and his family..
And yes, the Chazon Ish who already safe in Palestine...
So here again you're proving that your ignorance is a result of your own stupid decision to follow the path of whomever but the truth and path of Gedolei Yisroel, first you're asking show us when and where Rav Elchonon said it, and then you have the chutzpah to say so what? So you really don't deserve a reply but look for his book "ikvesa demeshicha" everything is very clear over there, and again the facts are Zionism caused the holocaust and THE FACT IS ZIONISM IS CAUSING THE GREATEST ANTISEMITISM AND THE STATE OF ISRAEL CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DEFEND KY! IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME AND THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST IS GONNA EXPLODE THANKS TO ZIONISM HASHEM YERACHEM
DeleteAND WHERE WILL THEY RUN?
First you're asking to show you where and when Rav Elchonon said it, and immediately you have the chutzpah to say and even if they did so what? So here we go again, you're not interested in any debate, the ignorant way of life you live in is not by accident, it's exactly like all anti-semites who wouldn't listen only to whoever is feeding hate, so really it's irrelevant to show any proof, but there's a sefer called BEIKVESA DEMESHICHA from Rav Elchonon and everything's written very clear
DeleteAnd yes you're right facts don't lie and the facts will never change ZIONISM WAS THE FAULT OF THE HOLOCAUST AND ZIONISM IS THE FAULT OF ANTISEMITISM TODAY
But go debate a donkey
P.S. There's a clip on YouTube today what and how TZAHAL treats it's own soldiers WORSE THAN NAZIS
....and the nebisches live in the past, that's why they're at the cottage... telling each other cockamamie tales about leprechauns and BS'ing each other with tall tales over Guinness... Burp, burp... belch... belch...... He said/she said'ing each other as if anybody in the real world cares.. Carrying make-believe grudges that only exist in their psychoses .Repeating the same hallucinations about kissing the Blarney Stone...urp, burp.. Aye, Aye, me buddy.
ReplyDeleteDerby.... " When Irish Eyes are Smilin'"
ReplyDeleteSign in the Nisht Mit Alemen lobby :
“Losers live in the past. Winners learn from the past and enjoy working in the present toward the future.”... Denis Waitley, motivational speaker
" And especially in a fabricated,
lying past.."... Anonymous
the Derby...Need to get me a new Irish tweed woone...Aye, me lads, 'ave woone on me....Myke a toost to O'Greenboom ahnd ahnd,...., tooo the best storyteller 'ere, ..... Cheeerz.... Gulp.. Ha ha.
7:47
ReplyDelete"WHERE WILL THEY RUN?"
To the State of Israel....
that's where you will run too!
Well i have news for you, I'm eight generation yerushalmi,my ancestors came to EY over two hundred years ago much before Zionism was founded and me and our entire family left almost immediately after the founding of the Zionist/atheistic regime and we officially gave up on their citizenship!
DeleteAnd although you don't want to admit, but Israel is the most dangerous spot in the world
The above posts spoken as true Meraglim. Lies, shkorim mixed in with a bissel emes. Thousands are making Aliyah & even Christian tours are booked to capacity, and tout safety as one of their hooks. The danger is overrated and especially to the sneaky liar at 10:03... who's really 9:23....Yehoshua & Calev tore their clothes when they heard the kfirah drooling out of your ugly mouth.This is EXACTLY what these soon-to-be stretched tongues to the belly button bums with fleas/flies/gnats nibbling, blabbed.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't matter a hoot anymore what R' Elchonon said..It's old, stale and passé.... We know what happened... Save your frozen zombie latkes for next year... The facts speak for themselves... Read Drishas Tziyon by Harav Hagoan R' Tzi Hirsch Kalischer who explains everything... AND .. read the list of rabbonim who supported him... and their haskamas...Read how one of them came out strongly against the discouraging 'leaders' and basically called them feeble minded.. We don't even hear about them because the meraglim cover up their names and never mention them... You can't even get his sefer in the US, a friend of mine got it for me in Israel...
Rabboisei...This Seymour koifer and his ilk are shameless liars and are stuck in the past like stuck pigs oinking in the mud...
Their "leaders' committed nasty sins by cooling the hearts of frum Jews from making Aliyah...
Now Seymour & Co. are Bal Peoir'ing anti-Zionist "leaders."
All this on Chanukah yet... Shameless frum dogs..!!!!
the Derby
First let me say loud and clear, I'm proud to be frum and yes i have nothing to be ashamed of by following the path of my ancestors, and if anything YOU are a subhuman DREK OLD STALE AND PASSE...A LEFTOVER OF THE ORIGINAL BNEI EISUV, YOU WOULD OF BEEN AN EXCELLENT ADVISOR FOR HITLER WITH YOUR HATEFUL MIND!
DeleteAccording to halacha you are in cherem, and according to humanity you're not even human YOU BELONG WHERE YOUR REAL FAMILY IS FERD
ReplyDeleteREMINDER:
“Losers live in the past. Winners learn from the past and enjoy working in the present toward the future.”... Denis Waitley, motivational speaker
" And especially in a fabricated,
lying past.."... Anonymous
Derby
This blogger & with him Derby (the Ferd), are KOFRIM Gemurim, Moridin Velo Maalin, picking & choosing, which Rabbonim are relevant, or vice versa, Chazal refer to such Heretics "Maklo Yagid Lo", in addition to being Kofrim they are also from the AZEI PANIM SHEBADOR, Chazal in Mesaches Sota describe many of the attributes of this age, UKVESA DIMSHICHA "CHUTZPAH YASGA", these two Apikorsum fit that description 100%. Very very few Rabbonim were in agreement with the Chovevei Tzion, and 99% of the Gedolim vehemently opposed that movement as being Neged HATORAH, many warned of the danger's lurking in this message, unfortunately Sitna Natzach, and the prophetic holy words of Chazal are facts and Chazal's description of what would happen played out exactly that way.
ReplyDeleteAnd to these two (blogger & derby), I'll add, both of you are Machtiei Horabim in a major way that can't be compared but to the KAAT SHAATZ etc, every word you post is recorded BASHAMAYIM, never forgotten, EVRATAM SHAMURA LANETZACH, HASHEM doesn't ever forget, and is MAARICH APO, but VEGAVA DILEI, you both are considered as MUMRIM LEHACHIS, as your whole purpose is only to go against HASHEM and his TZADIKIM. Past experience has shown, that all you'll comments will be snide sarcastic leitzanus, for unfortunately you've become so attached to Minus & APIKORSUS, VECHAL BAEHA LO YESHUVUN VELO YAASIGU ORCHOS CHAAYIM.
Seymour,the self-proclaimed "modern" guy then self-proclaimed "Yerushalmi."
ReplyDeleteI really didn't read every word of your Babel-babble, just skimmed a bit.
Makes no difference what you maleh geireh... The facts are in... The reality is here.... Go live in the past...
Folks, get yourself the Drishas Tziyon, it's easy Hebrew and see for yourself how Seymour's SHYrTT
is not only obsolete, but was never true to begin with..If Sy has a problem with me then he has a problem with all those holy rabbonim who supported Zionism...
You have zero idea what Chazal said or meant, you're a Malaga slurper & shlinger..We don't judge truth by how many adherents it has... Olam Hasheker is full of lies and only a little truth, hence Olam Sheker.. Example: Malchut Bet David has only Yehuda & Binyomin as its chassiddim, contrary to Malkei Yisroel who had 10.. TEN... and who were wrong..Majority is ONLY valid in a court, not in deiyus or hashkafa.. Never was, never will be.. No matter how many" BANDES" they collect...( Though our side, as written above, had plenty of suporters who were nidche by the Alim Gvars..
the Derby...It's Zohs Chanukah, mahn... Do tshuvah already.
"...This blogger & with him Derby (the Ferd), are KOFRIM Gemurim, Moridin Velo Maalin, picking & choosing, which Rabbonim are relevant,..."
ReplyDeleteHa ha ha.... We all know how your cursed rabbonim with your nivel pee/poo with the ugliest slime... Hey Sy, what about the "Zero Zalis & his bande of..." Talk about pick 'n' choose...
Derby.... Lemme cheat on another jelly donut
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ReplyDeleteIsrael is the most dangerous part in the world?
Why don't you have a talk with the Ukrainian Jews, how about the French Jews?
Where are they running to the "most dangerous part of the world" ISRAEL!
They gave up their Israeli Citizenship because of Zionism?
Why didn't the Chazon Ish, The Steipler, The Brisker... Ger, Belz,etc
run away?
I think you ran away because of the "mighty dollar"
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ReplyDelete"Loud and Clear"
What's clear about your comment?
You make no sense.
What are you ploppling about?
When I wrote this about R' Elchonon, "..It's old, stale and passé...." , I meant the constant regurgitation of what he said by you guys. I didn't mean to demean him personally H"YD .... though I completely and totally disagree with what he said, as do holier men than me,talmidei chachacmim ,and don't believe a word about his Zionist theories..
ReplyDeleteNow ,on this day of Zohs Chanukah , I'll control myself and refrain from answering your diatribe and ranting... On this day, at least, I'll be a shomeiya cherposo v'eyn oneh...May Hashem help you.
Derby...
I repeated the words of Rav Elchonon, and you with your disgusting statement included yourself automatically in the category of a mevazeh talmid chuchom and even worse than that, and btw who do you think you are to agree or disagree with a giant like him or with any other Talmud chacham?
ReplyDeleteAnd on this holy day of Zos Chanukah you are not a shomea cherposo whatsoever, in the contrary you became according to chazal a apikores SHAME ON YOU
Sticking to my theme, I won't respond except to say that our Torah isn't a narrow one-way street, other talmidei chachamim absolutely disagreed with him and so do I. Who am I? A child of Holocaust survivors whose families perished.
ReplyDeleteNow..... and I'm controlling myself... but to defend rabbonim whom you were mevazeh...For their kavod I'll say,, I won't go into the leshonos you used to describe great Zionist rebbes and tzaddikim... I won't bring their names up so you won't have the chance to label them with your odious filthy Dee-Reck... ( This isn't in my defense , but in theirs)
Now then.... Notice I didn't ask who you are that talks shmutz....
That's because I already know who you are... And it ain't pretty... Do yourself a big favor;
from now on when you curse, use another language and don't dare use our holy Torah's lashon kodesh and its psukim against our pro-Zionist holy tzaddikim.. Use Yiddish instead !! (wink-wink)
Derby...
R' Tzvi Hirsh Kalischer's yahrtzeit "hei, Cheshvon" is the same as my dad's, OBM... Zechuto Yagen Aleinu..
Exactly stick to the theme, and that's YOU are the one who used foul language against a giant and one of the biggest gedolim of the generation before WWII, and no i didn't use any foul language against no rabbis and definitely not against tzaddikim.
DeleteBeing a son of holocaust survivors isn't a licence to talk against gedolim and absolutely does not place you in a category of anyone to care if you agree or disagree, a child of holocaust survivors dose not make you more Jewish than anyone else
And finally the Torah is NOT a two way street that you can chop it to your desire
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ReplyDeleteBais Hillel and Bais Shammai?
a one way street?
you am haaretz!
And I'm the am haaretz? Bais Shammai and Bais Hillel is a one way different directions
DeleteI was waiting for you , slimeball... it's after tzeis hakochovim, Seymour.. Don't you even DARE lie... Should I roll back here and post your quotes and filth about you know which rebbes you railed against?????? You're always denying who you are when I catch you... Which so far has been 100% of the time... You weasel, trying to sneak and wiggle out of your Dee-Reck... Your wiggling room , Sy ,is only 'thisclose'...
ReplyDeleteYour latest victim being the 770 Rebbe.... You're a notorious liar and hypocrite.... A foul mouthed rabid Jew hater who libels ALL Zionists ( and rabid non-Zionists Sakmarian R' Zalman sect ) without a shred of evidence except for the Dee-Reck drivel you & your stinking rotten ilk keep talking about... Enough, Lunatic... It's OVER..!!! Can't you see??? It's O-V_E-R... YOU LOST....
I didn't curse R' Elchonon.... I disagree very strongly.... YOU have a problem with him saying what he said vis-a-vis Zionsm ... I DON'T... I simply ignore him.... End of story... That's right Sy, unless it's a dvar Torah from him on any other subject, I'll ignore it... You gotta problem with that??? TUFFF SHYTTT... !!!! Bli Neder I'll give a partial list of those who supported it... but it's only for those who don't know better... Not for you and certainly not for me.... I Don't give DIDLEY SQUAT or frog's FLATULANCE for anti-Zionist tirades. Period. Hakodosh Boruch Hu wanted it, helped the umos haolam help us, and sustains it through nissim bchol regah.. You're a kofer and meragel apikorus.. You guys shoudda made Aliyah.. Coudda had the country as YOU wished... No chillul Shabbas... etc.. etc... But you didn't... Now stop whining and regurgitating the past... It doesn't matter.... The State of Israel is.... ready ?.. H-E-R-E.
End of story...You're a loser, as I wrote yesterday... head in the friggin' past... Israel has issues to grapple with like any other nation today... So, NOBODY, Sy, but NOBODY except your & your Bande care about your collective excrement... Believe me, Sy... NOBODY....
Derby.. roaches and pests... and it's only winter... Gee....
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DeleteSob, sob,...".....and no i didn't use any foul language against no rabbis and definitely not against tzaddikim...." Sob, sob...
ReplyDeleteOf course not, Seymour...
How 'bout these:
"....That's classic ZERO ZALI and his Bande, empty lowlifes, menuvalim, using nivul peh, as a first line of defense, aggressive Gvar Alim, Bullying as a way of life,.."
What did you doodle about the Lubavitcher Rebbe? Moreinu Harav Kook, Goren, Teichtal , etc..... etc..... ? I'm not going to write what you doodled because it's basically low and so vicious that I can't post it... Your curses are the worst kind of foul language.. From which Bande did you learn this from?? Or both Bandes??
You're a disgrace to your old mother who defrosted your century old zambie latkes to fressss....A disgrace to frum people and a disgrace to our Yiddishkeit... FEH...!!!!!!
Derby..... Send my regards to your 'clergymen' and' Rev'.... You know, the ones who ordered you off the Internet...
Just would like to point out, DIN, that I am still waiting for your response to the ksav Yad letter I sent you from Rav Elchonon.
ReplyDeleteThe rules on this so called blog, are constantly being changed to fit the deranged low IQ blogger and derby's mindset, when they're cornered, and that is much more often than not, they use 2 lines of defense, either they change the subject and begin blaming those that put them on the spot, accusing them of doing, what in reality these guys did and do, cursing belittling lying etc etc, or 'a moil mit Vassar', either or. In this instance that you proved them wrong, you can wait 'untill hell freezes over', for a logical answer.
DeleteI'd also want to make a very important comment, regarding these two ignorant mumrim lehachis, they are so narrow minded in their off track off the derech lowset minds, that they constantly are mixing up people, thinking they're answering ONE only ONE person, fir they're low IQ garbled membranes, in place of a mind, they can't fathom that in fact these are many different people!!!!!!!!!, thats a bit lofty for them to comprehend, so in addition to writing comments that would be considered childish, petty, if a 6.year old would be the writer, add on, that they're totally confusing they're adversaries, and you have a 'dor.haflaga' babble.
ReplyDelete12:03
ReplyDeleteI already answered it ...
It turns out that Rav Elchonon did write the letter in 1917 condemning Rav Kook's z"l appeal for Keren Kayemet, it turns out he was nebech wrong...
if he would have supported the appeal, the State would have had a frum face....
Rav Teichtal z"l in his Sefer Eim Habonim laments the fact that Frum Gedoilim made a HUGE mistake...
he writes that the fact that the Zionists has not frum founders is all the fault of the Rabbonim..
Rav Elchonon's son, Rav Simcha Wasserman z"l did not agree with his late father's policy, vis a vis the Zionists.
At this juncture of time, the letter that he wrote in 1917 is irrelevant, since the State of Israel is B"H a fact.
I removed the 11:31 comment because I keep warning him not to curse Jews...
ReplyDeleteHe cursed the State....and that's cursing 6 million Jews living there...
I will also not let him have the last word..
he can comment in Der Goy or other satmar anti-jewish newspapers..
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