You think your version of Judaism isnt a hijacked version of someone elses?
get ur head out of the sand, read some history and dont listen to everything your rebbe says. explore a little, you might find a big world of knowledge out there
Sadly, frumkeit was hijacked a long time ago by extremists. The near requirement of men in many communities to go to the mikveh before Shabbos and Yuntif every week (and pay exorbitant fees to do so), the constant addition of chumrahs on Shabbos and regarding kashrus, the reliance on Daas Toirah rather than on one's own trusted posek, the refusal to accept geirus by any but the most select b'sei din in every community (and each community has it's own standards as to who is select enough), the enforcement of social standards (no television, no internet, no communicating with the opposite gender) for which there is no valid halachic base, the hardline approach to tznius which is arguably more strict than ever before in Jewish history, the upturning of halachic precedent in favor of more stringent approaches (ie.: segregating buses rather than following Feinstiens's prior ruling that SN doesn't apply in public transit), the list goes on and on... Yeah, I think someone hijacked our religion. And that, kids, is why Yeshivah made me an atheist
Anonymous: Are you sure Yeshivah made you an athiest? I am thinking it is because you stopped believing in fairy tales.
I love how it is always the institution/parents/rules that make ppl go off the derech. Cant it just be that (since its all false) they just found out what others are too brainwashed to see.
I agree with the previous comments that point out that religion was hijacked a long time ago. Every generation adds more chumrahs to Judaism, and day by day, the religion grows and grows into a hodgepodge of rules that have nothing to do with the original Judaism.
Example: Do you think Moshe Rabbeinu's wife shaved her head? Of course not. Learn the gemara, you'll see that all women had hair back then.
I too understand you questioning today's yiddishkiet. Clearly the problem you have is the fact that a bachur would subject himself to a blatant case of maris ayin(how do we know he made a bracha before smelling the hadas), however there is a heter from rav pinky shmecklstein which says that persumai nisa over rides maris ayin. a gut shabis.
Joe B: I'd stopped believing in most of the fairy tales before I got to Yeshiva, but I was still pretty set in a more enlightened frumkeit. Yeshiva turned my skepticism into full-on contempt, which led to further questioning, further distancing myself from the frum world, eventually going OTD, and then realizing that somewhere along the way, I had also stopped believing in God. I probably would have gone back to Reform Judaism and agnosticism had it not been for Yeshiva. So, thank you Yeshiva!
You never heard of Hiddur Mitzva?
ReplyDeleteYou think your version of Judaism isnt a hijacked version of someone elses?
ReplyDeleteget ur head out of the sand, read some history and dont listen to everything your rebbe says. explore a little, you might find a big world of knowledge out there
why is this guy trying to saw off his nose with a ruler?
ReplyDeleteis he going to use it in lieu of an etrog?
jewish men shouldnt bring rulers in the house!! their wives might find out that ____________ isnt 8 inches.
ReplyDeleteSadly, frumkeit was hijacked a long time ago by extremists. The near requirement of men in many communities to go to the mikveh before Shabbos and Yuntif every week (and pay exorbitant fees to do so), the constant addition of chumrahs on Shabbos and regarding kashrus, the reliance on Daas Toirah rather than on one's own trusted posek, the refusal to accept geirus by any but the most select b'sei din in every community (and each community has it's own standards as to who is select enough), the enforcement of social standards (no television, no internet, no communicating with the opposite gender) for which there is no valid halachic base, the hardline approach to tznius which is arguably more strict than ever before in Jewish history, the upturning of halachic precedent in favor of more stringent approaches (ie.: segregating buses rather than following Feinstiens's prior ruling that SN doesn't apply in public transit), the list goes on and on... Yeah, I think someone hijacked our religion. And that, kids, is why Yeshivah made me an atheist
ReplyDeleteYou say that as if it was so nice before these vermin "hijacked" it. NEWS FLASH: It was always nonsense.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous:
ReplyDeleteAre you sure Yeshivah made you an athiest? I am thinking it is because you stopped believing in fairy tales.
I love how it is always the institution/parents/rules that make ppl go off the derech. Cant it just be that (since its all false) they just found out what others are too brainwashed to see.
I agree with the previous comments that point out that religion was hijacked a long time ago. Every generation adds more chumrahs to Judaism, and day by day, the religion grows and grows into a hodgepodge of rules that have nothing to do with the original Judaism.
ReplyDeleteExample: Do you think Moshe Rabbeinu's wife shaved her head? Of course not. Learn the gemara, you'll see that all women had hair back then.
I too understand you questioning today's yiddishkiet. Clearly the problem you have is the fact that a bachur would subject himself to a blatant case of maris ayin(how do we know he made a bracha before smelling the hadas), however there is a heter from rav pinky shmecklstein which says that persumai nisa over rides maris ayin. a gut shabis.
ReplyDeleteJoe B:
ReplyDeleteI'd stopped believing in most of the fairy tales before I got to Yeshiva, but I was still pretty set in a more enlightened frumkeit. Yeshiva turned my skepticism into full-on contempt, which led to further questioning, further distancing myself from the frum world, eventually going OTD, and then realizing that somewhere along the way, I had also stopped believing in God. I probably would have gone back to Reform Judaism and agnosticism had it not been for Yeshiva. So, thank you Yeshiva!