tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post8876239668479477431..comments2024-03-29T15:46:03.195+03:00Comments on DUS IZ NIES !! Rare View...: Coming to Israel? You Can Basically Eat In Any Restaurant That Has A Kashrut Supervision Certificate ... YES EVEN From THE RABBANUT!Dusiznieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-72211915148999642162019-11-13T01:14:08.021+02:002019-11-13T01:14:08.021+02:00All past and present Poskim agree 100% at least on...All past and present Poskim agree 100% at least on one major point:<br /><br />It is, by very far, more important to secure what comes out of our mouth rather than what comes in.Zakonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-57941463363236089092019-11-12T04:31:22.780+02:002019-11-12T04:31:22.780+02:00The major problem relates to insects and salads/ve...The major problem relates to insects and salads/vegetables. This is not a DeRabonnon and not a Chumra. Unless these are purchased "cleaned" by a restaurant, one should ask the Mashgiach how this is done etc.Isaac Balbinhttp://pitputim.menoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-1097311004999278072019-11-11T02:55:27.739+02:002019-11-11T02:55:27.739+02:00Why shouldn't somebody eat Triangle K ?
You&#...Why shouldn't somebody eat Triangle K ? <br />You're writing unverified motzei shem ra in an innocent sounding question which is wrong. Triangle K is as kosher as ou or anybody else so dont spread evil talkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-23510145637507604852019-11-10T07:18:47.510+02:002019-11-10T07:18:47.510+02:0011:23
You scribble....
"check out the kosher ...11:23<br />You scribble....<br />"check out the kosher groceries and supermarkets in Chutz laaretz and you'll find that almost every Israeli product has the Badatz symbol."<br /><br />Everyone of those Badatz products has a OU symbol.... without the OU they wouldn't be able to sell anything."<br /><br />You continue to scribble......<br />"And BTW when Belz had the big blow-up against the Edah (about 35 years ago) they established their own Kashrut org and started a huge food produce company. It went broke withing 2 years - as no one except for Belz would but their products."<br /><br />It went "broke? ...."<br />Belz Kashrut organization called "Kehilot" is now the second largest Hechsher .......<br />in fact ALL catering halls in Ashdod carry only "Kehilot"<br />In Osher Ad most meats are from Kehilot ....<br /><br />The Eida are known in Israel to be thieves and are called by the people "Eidas Ha'ganovim"<br /><br />Your first scribble:<br />"Not sure about Belz - after all their Shechita was labelled neveilos by the Badatz - "<br /><br />What a crazy and Naive comment...<br />"after all their Shecita was labelled neveilos by the Badatz"<br /><br />I don't have a dog in this race so I don't really care either way ... I'll eat from the Rabbanut ... no problem..<br />but to call Belz Shchitah "Neveilos?" Vey sick indeed ....... <br />we are old enough to remember when the BADTZ just last year tried to call all our chickens treif and introduced the "Barkai" chicken ... that Rav Landau z"l after an investigation called treif and Neiveilah ..... <br />That ""barkei treif chicken" was called kosher by the Eidah and Badatz ...<br /><br /><br />Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-77567436850678782012019-11-10T06:23:42.888+02:002019-11-10T06:23:42.888+02:00Not sure about Belz - after all their Shechita was...Not sure about Belz - after all their Shechita was labelled neveilos by the Badatz - but Ger and Chabad all eat Edah. You are either ignorant or lying.<br /><br />And check out the kosher groceries and supermarkets in Chutz laaretz and you'll find that almost every Israeli product has the Badatz symbol.<br /><br />And BTW when Belz had the big blow-up against the Edah (about 35 years ago) they established their own Kashrut org and started a huge food produce company. It went broke withing 2 years - as no one except for Belz would but their products. <br />No, ove rth e years theyhad at one time or other upset Ger, Chabad (see here: https://col.org.il/news/50686) LitvaksViznitz etc so most would touch their stuff.<br /><br />Try to study some recent history and don't rely on presuming none of your readers remembers those daysAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-65171648456959944652019-11-08T09:06:00.338+02:002019-11-08T09:06:00.338+02:00Scott Morrison....
Oh It is a generally known fact...Scott Morrison....<br />Oh It is a generally known fact that most of the Rabanut rabbonim do not eat Rabbanut certified meat and foods."<br /><br />"known" by whom?????<br />I was just at a wedding that had only the Rabbanut Hashgacha and sat at a table next to Rabbi Lau ... and he ate without a problem ...the wedding was in Ashdod..<br /><br />Your stupid idiotic comment that "Edah Badatz as much as you like - but they are the largest Kashrut organisations anywhere - possibly even the size of the OU."<br /><br />"possibly the size of the OU????? Are you sane? Most of the products under the Bedatz Hashgacha has the OU symbol .... for two reasons .....<br />1) outside Israel except for some chassidim no one ever heard of Bedatz<br />2) Most Products of the Bedatz has OU Mashgichim ..... <br /><br />BTW Belz second largest chassidus in Israel after Gewr does not touch anything with the Badatz Hashgacha ...they eat "Kehilot" ... and Chabad doesn't touch Bedatz.....<br /><br />Before you shoot your stupid comments off ....think<br />Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-5521466091425931402019-11-08T08:07:41.496+02:002019-11-08T08:07:41.496+02:00It is a generally known fact that most of the Raba...It is a generally known fact that most of the Rabanut rabbonim do not eat Rabbanut certified meat and foods.<br /><br />And you can try and denigrate the Edah Badatz as much as you like - but they are the largest Kashrut organisations anywhere - possibly even the size of the OU.<br />Someone who works in their headquarters told me that they employ almost 400 mashgichim!<br /><br />They must be doing SOMETHING right.<br />There are very few Israeli exported fod products that do not carry theyr hechsherScott Morrisonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-7912985593301556292019-11-08T03:15:49.572+02:002019-11-08T03:15:49.572+02:00Do you know of anything wrong with triangle K. I e...Do you know of anything wrong with triangle K. I eat it, except for Hebrew National which I consider kosher I just prefer Glatt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-3678675671027949202019-11-06T21:45:05.331+02:002019-11-06T21:45:05.331+02:00What about triangle K? would you eat that?What about triangle K? would you eat that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-64613858227431589812019-11-05T17:56:07.416+02:002019-11-05T17:56:07.416+02:007:47
So when the Mashgiach found out, the hechsher...7:47<br />So when the Mashgiach found out, the hechsher was revoked.... Thats the point ... exactly .... <br />they revoked the hechsher when they found out something was wrong! <br /><br />This can happen in any restaurant and doesn't make the Rabbanut less reliable .... in fact most of the Kashrut scandals in Israel is from the Badatz Hechsher ... <br /><br />When a kashrus scandel happens with the Rabbanut hechsher...they immediately notify the public where and when the breach happened....not so with the Badatz ... they keep it quiet .......<br /><br />Thats why in Israel most Chassidishe people are slowly breaking off the Badatz hence the new "Kehilos" Hechsher that is backed by Belz .....<br />Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-11351057288649468682019-11-05T14:47:17.432+02:002019-11-05T14:47:17.432+02:00Hi nice article however i know first hand of a cas...Hi nice article however i know first hand of a case in israel a milky restaurant... ome of the workers heated up his meaty sandwich in the milky toaster... one of the workers snitched amd the restaurant had the hechsher revok3d only a few weeks later for it to return. You have to be careful even from the stsff working at the restaurant ans if its just rabannut certified then who knows who is being hired... Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16859030817960945896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-84274332531791321052019-11-05T14:37:32.140+02:002019-11-05T14:37:32.140+02:00While this is a very good article, there is a fals...While this is a very good article, there is a false hashkafa being presented here. The heading of the post stated "You Can Basically Eat In Any Restaurant That Has A Kashrut Supervision Certificate" Part of the rationale for this is in the last part of the article where it states "the sin is entirely on the head of the rabbi and the mashgiach, whereas the buyer who was meticulous in purchasing food having kashrut supervision – is free of sin" So the writer of the post concludes that therefore the consumer doesn't need to be careful of whom to trust or not to trust because it's not his problem as the sin won't be his. This is wrong and it probably isn't the intention of the writer of the article. (If it is, then he too made this mistake.) The intention is that if the consumer does whatever is reasonable to determine trustworthiness but yet is duped, then he has no sin. True. But not if he buries his head in the sand. Just as one would not lend money to an unknown stranger saying "look he has a chezkas kashrus and if he doesn't pay back then it's his sin". He wouldn't do that because he cares about his money and needs to use good sense. So too in ruchnius. To be lax and simply say it's not my problem, and blindly trust when it isn't rational to trust is wrong. So as experience teaches us what kind of people and what kind of situation are more suspect and less reliable, so we must use our sense to care not to rely on the unreliable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com