tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post6466446942557464594..comments2024-03-29T15:46:03.195+03:00Comments on DUS IZ NIES !! Rare View...: Mindel Shavy Panet Becomes a Christian Dusiznieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-20308901141885129622023-10-23T07:51:34.169+03:002023-10-23T07:51:34.169+03:00Speak for YOURSELF.. who are you to speak for all ...Speak for YOURSELF.. who are you to speak for all the girls in these places. Who do you think you are? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-2212549846956452982023-10-23T07:48:20.570+03:002023-10-23T07:48:20.570+03:00Theyre not anything. Theyre jewish kids still. A l...Theyre not anything. Theyre jewish kids still. A little dip dont change that! Once a jew,always a jew.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-2621660452830063652023-10-23T07:45:21.106+03:002023-10-23T07:45:21.106+03:00Youre still jewish? You can never undo your jewish...Youre still jewish? You can never undo your jewishness. A little water didnt make her a goy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-76895748240261104142019-05-08T21:52:23.017+03:002019-05-08T21:52:23.017+03:00Maybe is Satmar hadn't squashed the messianic ...Maybe is Satmar hadn't squashed the messianic spirit of Chabad so harshly this wouldn't have happened...Pinchashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18151647578039877511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-64260296479409854842019-01-29T02:36:24.797+02:002019-01-29T02:36:24.797+02:00What are you talking about. They hate school. Who ...What are you talking about. They hate school. Who is they??...who are you talking for? Yourself, perhapsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-20894971492459694692019-01-29T02:33:40.171+02:002019-01-29T02:33:40.171+02:00Who said that Christians are not good and kind peo...Who said that Christians are not good and kind people? Whats your point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-63808778933429893792019-01-08T07:48:22.541+02:002019-01-08T07:48:22.541+02:00Good for her, it's a free country.
How does Mi...Good for her, it's a free country.<br />How does Mindel converting hurt anyone.<br />She was probably tired of the satmar circus. The obsession with married women shaving their heads, the absurd smartphone rules and all of the other cult-like behaviors of this group.<br />It's hard to understand why we don't have 400 girls converting verses only 4<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-38148052225733734092018-11-11T18:03:05.803+02:002018-11-11T18:03:05.803+02:00All she wants is some attention poor girlAll she wants is some attention poor girlSan fraciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06251325943631893750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-28660158446268687892018-11-11T18:02:06.290+02:002018-11-11T18:02:06.290+02:00By the way that is the results when you're par...By the way that is the results when you're parents force you into a marriage that you don't want. Which was the results by her. Her parents Forced into marrying a family from London who She did not want to marry. San fraciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06251325943631893750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-69475537797141836362018-11-11T01:39:43.572+02:002018-11-11T01:39:43.572+02:00Very very confused girl. There is a picture of h...Very very confused girl. There is a picture of her going around just this past succhos making a bracha on a lulav and esrog at the chabad house on campus i think she just wants to be loved. San fraciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06251325943631893750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-21324781977867117572018-11-04T13:56:54.743+02:002018-11-04T13:56:54.743+02:001)When others posted and removed this video, dusiz...1)When others posted and removed this video, dusiznies had the courage to keep it up. I respect the family who are shamed by this and dont want to cause more pain, but feel it is important to see, to know what is going on-- bc without seeing it, it is too difficult to believe it is real.I am only shocked that it took a trip to Israel and more if this isn't happenign here in the US, here in NY where Justin Bieber's church has over 10,000 worshippers every Sunday. <br /><br />2)For the Anonymous commenter who said..."If you believe a little water makes you anything".... I suppose lots of people converting to Judaism might say the same to the Israeli Rabbinical Courts who give them a hassle, But obviously a dip in water is transforming and without it, you don't qualify unless born to a Jewish mother. So it means alot to alot of people.<br /><br />3) Instead of being gleeful that such a tragedy happens in a Satmar family (them and not me) bc you don't like Satmar, look a little deeper and ask-- what the hell was going on -- that a girl brought up in Boro Park goes to such an extreme??? Must have been a lot of pain there. What happened int he family, what is the history, what happened in school/camp, who are her friends? Who else is at risk? <br /><br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-13129678047342168342018-10-31T17:26:44.302+02:002018-10-31T17:26:44.302+02:00If you know any history and are truthful and hones...If you know any history and are truthful and honest with yourself you find the truth within you no need to run elsewhere......Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07206148525354946776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-78101460119999802642018-10-24T17:12:04.385+03:002018-10-24T17:12:04.385+03:00anyone who is curious, the one who baptized her wa...anyone who is curious, the one who baptized her was a Gehr - https://gracefellowship.com/about-us/staff/i/brian-gehr/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-18832847729324636082018-10-21T16:08:53.022+03:002018-10-21T16:08:53.022+03:00Recently evidence of the circumstances surrounding...<br />Recently evidence of the circumstances surrounding the conversion of the son of the Ba'al HaTanya have been discovered. <br /><br />http://kotzkblog.blogspot.com/2018/05/176-what-happened-to-moshe-son-of-baal.htmlBobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-66282787584126427582018-10-19T22:06:03.206+03:002018-10-19T22:06:03.206+03:00Dvora Rotenberg and Anonymous trauma therapist in...Dvora Rotenberg and Anonymous trauma therapist in the heimishe community,<br /><br />Thank you for your insightful comments. If only the haredi community could learn from what you have to say. Unfortunately it's far more likely that these cults will see a greater exodus as younger generations leave their toxic environments.Chafraud-Depravitchhttps://chafrauddepravitch.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-63293586905118780402018-10-19T21:52:15.771+03:002018-10-19T21:52:15.771+03:00This is such a great story.
It's an epic &qu...This is such a great story. <br />It's an epic "up yours" to the so-called "authorities" of her former haredi cult.<br />The public display resulting in the shame of Satmar makes it all that much sweeter (but it would be just as sweet happening to any haredi cult). <br />And it just keeps getting better with the reactions from all the ignorant fundamentalist extremists who ask 'what went wrong?' As if to ask 'why didn't she enjoy being treated like Jewish crap?'<br /><br />However, there is hope for those of you in the Judeo-centric bubble bemoaning your "loss." With Chabad's neo-Christian brand of "Judaism" it's very likely that it will be fashionable to be a (neo)Christian and a Jew simultaneously again soon. First Century retro style at its finest!<br /><br />Anyway, I'm very happy for this woman (even if her escape was to another fairy-tale religion - maybe she'll grow out of that too). At least she has a better shot at finding some happiness in life outside of her Satmar cult jail. <br /><br />I hope she enjoys leaving Orthodox Judaism as much as I have. Life is great. It shouldn't be wasted and screwed up by a bunch of sick haredi control freaks who believe they speak for God.Chafraud-Depravitchhttps://chafrauddepravitch.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-90726346915831318402018-10-19T21:52:05.683+03:002018-10-19T21:52:05.683+03:00The Baal Hataya’s son never converted, this has be...The Baal Hataya’s son never converted, this has been thoroughly debunked. Recently an entire well researched book was published on the life of Reb Moshe. Toras emeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04665562395573701825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-6445268571949674612018-10-19T07:11:59.063+03:002018-10-19T07:11:59.063+03:00Until I see it in the news somewhere else I'm ...Until I see it in the news somewhere else I'm going to assume this is all just a bad dreamSan fraciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06251325943631893750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-36136140482301757622018-10-18T06:03:47.140+03:002018-10-18T06:03:47.140+03:00She will stay a yid always a dip in pool dsnt coun...She will stay a yid always a dip in pool dsnt count its good for social media she gets attention that way 1 day with hashems help she will come back she just needs our prayersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-91385223157013909022018-10-17T17:44:51.568+03:002018-10-17T17:44:51.568+03:00Prior to WW2, the majority of Western politicians ...Prior to WW2, the majority of Western politicians believed that appeasement of Hitler was the best policy. I could prepare a long list of their names, but the very length of this list would not prove that this policy was proved correct but rather would show how so many eminent and educated people could get things so wrong. For you, the long list of gedolim who held anti-Zionist views is an argument against Zionism, but for many it is evidence of how wrong gedolim can be and that the consequences of taking their advice can be disastrous. You have to remember that for every Jew whose life experience led him to reject the views of the long list of gedolim you give and became a Zionist, many more decided (like Miss Panet) to give up on Judaism in its entirety, find a non-Jewish partner and raise their children outside of Judaism. Only last week, a commemoration service took place in Denmark to remember the 7,000 who escaped the Nazis. Today there are less than 2,000 in Denmark. Why do you think this community shrunk so drastically?Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-22089395957712207242018-10-17T08:58:52.530+03:002018-10-17T08:58:52.530+03:00If she were converting TO Judiasm you would be cel...If she were converting TO Judiasm you would be celebrating. What makes you think Jews have it right?Jewishgirlinnychttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951482755212030164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-44323142757379706582018-10-17T02:45:29.169+03:002018-10-17T02:45:29.169+03:00Goombash
Most of the gedoilim you mention lived be...Goombash<br />Most of the gedoilim you mention lived before the establishment of the State ... after the State was established most Gedoilim accepted the State albeit reluctantly <br /><br />For example:<br /><br />* Rabbi Mordechai Gifter - R' Yeshiva of Telshe (1915-2001)<br />Rabbi Shimon Schwab - Rabbi of Khal Adas Jeshurun (1908-1993)<br /> Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky - R Yeshiva of Torah Vodaas (1890-1986)<br /> Rabbi Shneur Kotler - R' Yeshiva Beis Medrash Govoha of Lakewood (1918-1982)<br />* Rabbi Yosef Kahaneman - The Ponevezher Rav (1886-1969) * Even flew the Israeli flag on the building of the yeshivah on Yom Hatzmeot<br /> Rabbi Aharon Kotler - R' Yeshiva of Lakewood, NJ (1891-1962)<br />Rabbi Zelig Reuven Bengis - Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem (d. 1953)<br />Avnei Nezer - Rabbi Avraham Borenstein (1838-1910) * He actually dismissed the entire concept of the Shalosh Shevuot<br /><br />And <br />Rabbi Avigdor Miller - Rav of Bais Yisroel Torah Center (1908-2001) ... was the one who translated all the vicious anti-Israel crap of the Neturei Karta into English <br /><br />The rest that you listed above died decades before the establishment of the State and we will never know if they would have changed their mind once the State was established in 1948 <br /><br />The following Rabbis that you listed above would in retrospect have wished that there was a State to run to as they were murdered by the Nazis<br /><br />Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Ehrenreich - The Shimloyer Rav (1863-1944)<br />Rabbi Yitzchok Weiss - The Spinker Rebbe (1875-1944)<br />Rabbi Mordechai Rottenberg - Rabbi of Antwerp (1872-1944)<br />Rabbi Ben Zion Halberstam - Grand Rabbi of Bobov (1874-1941)<br />* Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman - R' Yeshiva of Baranovitch (1875-1940)<br />Rabbi Shaul Brach - Rabbi of Kasho, Hungary (1865-1940)<br />Rabbi Chuna Halberstam - Kalashitzer Rebbe (d. 1940)<br />Rabbi Chaim Ozer Grodzinsky - Chief Rabbi of Vilna (1863-1940)<br />Rabbi Boruch Ber Leibowitz - R' Yeshiva of Kamenitz (1870-1939)<br />Rabbi Yisroel Hager - Grand Rabbi of Vizhnitz (1860-1936)<br />Rabbi Yosef Rosen - The Rogatchover Gaon (1858-1936)<br /><br />I could list thousands of Rabbonim pre-war WW2 that either directly supported a State or accepted after the fact ... i.e. The Belzer, The Gerer, Bobove, Vizniter, Seret Viznitzer who was an IDF Soldier .... Rav Shach, Rav Eliyashv, R' Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, The Tziz Eliezer etc .<br /><br />BTW <br />Rabbi Moshe Teitelbaum - Satmar Rebbe (1914-2006) was a closet Zionist while he was the Sigheter Rav in Boro-Park until he became Satmar Rebbe ... in fact he married off his son, Aron, present Satmar Rebbe of Monroe to the Viznitzer Rebbe's daughter ... R' Yoel Teitelbaum founder of the Satmar dynasty despised the Viznitzer because he was a Zionist and took money from the medinah, and R' Yoel couldn't stand R' Moshe after that, and that's why he didn't want R' Moshe to succeed him .. even though R' Moshe was the rightful heir ..<br />I love the way you snuck in your hateful anti-Zionish crap into this thread ....<br /><br />The State of Israel is a fact... a beautiful country .... a miracle ... a country that houses the greatest Jewish population in the entire world, with an assimilation percentage of approx 1% as opposed to the US population that has an assimilation of close to 85% according to the latest PEW Study <br />More Torah learning in Israel than the entire Jewish world put together ....<br />Wake up you hateful Jews because the train is moving and you guys will be left behind with the rest of the goyim ...... <br />Where will you run when the civil war breaks out in the USA and they start murdering Jews? <br />To Israel of course ... you sick fool!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-76700689048874548342018-10-17T02:16:55.427+03:002018-10-17T02:16:55.427+03:00all these comments ... not one person said .. no m...all these comments ... not one person said .. no matter what this girls does .. no matter what water she dips in .. she is still a tayre yidenne .. she still has a yidishe neshomo that is a part of ein sof boruch hu and no water and no youtube is gonna get rid of that. its hidden away right now thats all. with blessings that we all are able to see truth in this fake world. <br />legyen szép napodloczi bacsinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-10597132552453296312018-10-17T00:37:30.386+03:002018-10-17T00:37:30.386+03:00You get more communal support by becoming Christia...You get more communal support by becoming Christian then just going OTD without any religion which can leave you feeling isolated. One of the warnings given to those going OTD is that they will not be able to cope alone in an uncaring and alien world. However you can cynically use the Christians to get this support. Once you have settled down and learn to cope by yourself, you can leave the Christians and live OTD without religion Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-54637242726358955132018-10-16T23:38:04.855+03:002018-10-16T23:38:04.855+03:00The vast majority of Gedolei Hador.. Even Sefardi...The vast majority of Gedolei Hador.. Even Sefardi & Lutvish were anti Zionism.<br />Here's a partial list <br />Rabbi Moshe Teitelbaum - Satmar Rebbe (1914-2006)<br />Rabbi Refoel Blum - Kasho Rebbe (1910-2005)<br />Rabbi Yisroel Yaakov Fisher - Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem (1928-2003)<br />Rabbi Avigdor Miller - Rav of Bais Yisroel Torah Center (1908-2001)<br />* Rabbi Mordechai Gifter - R' Yeshiva of Telshe (1915-2001)<br />* Rabbi Boruch Kaplan - Principal of Bais Yaakov (1911-1996)<br />Rabbi Moshe Aryeh Freund - Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem (1904-1996)<br />Rabbi Avraham Yitzchok Kahn - Toldos Ahron Rebbe (d. 1996)<br />Rabbi Shimon Schwab - Rabbi of Khal Adas Jeshurun (1908-1993)<br />* Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky - R Yeshiva of Torah Vodaas (1890-1986)<br />* Rabbi Yisrael Abuhatzeira - The Baba Sali (1890-1984)<br />* Rabbi Shneur Kotler - R' Yeshiva Beis Medrash Govoha of Lakewood (1918-1982)<br />* Rabbi Yitzchok Hutner - R' Yeshiva of Chaim Berlin (1906-1980)<br />Rabbi Yoel Teitelbaum - Grand Rabbi of Satmar (1887-1979)<br />Krasner Rav - Rabbi Hillel Lichtenstein - (d. 1979)<br />Rabbi Moshe Yitzchok Itzikel Gewirtzman - Pshevorsker Rebbe (1881-1976)<br />* Rabbi Yosef Kahaneman - The Ponevezher Rav (1886-1969)<br />Rabbi Shimon Yisroel Posen - The Shoproner Rav<br />* Rabbi Aharon Kotler - R' Yeshiva of Lakewood, NJ (1891-1962)<br />* Rabbi Yitzchok Zev Soloveitchik - Brisker Rav (1887-1959)<br />Rabbi Yonasan Steiff - Rabbi of Adas Yereim Vienna (1877-1958)<br />* Rabbi Michoel Ber Weissmandl - Nitra Rav (1903-1957)<br />* Chazon Ish - Rabbi Avrohom Yishaya Karelitz - (1878-1953)<br />Rabbi Zelig Reuven Bengis - Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem (d. 1953)<br />Rabbi Yosef Yitzchok Schneersohn - Lubavitcher Rebbe (1880-1950)<br />Rabbi Yosef Tzvi Dushinsky - Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem (1867-1948)<br />Rabbi Yisroel Zev Mintzberg - Rabbi of the Old City of Jerusalem (c. 1948)<br />Rabbi Ahron Roth - Shomer Emunim Rebbe (1894-1946)<br />Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Ehrenreich - The Shimloyer Rav (1863-1944)<br />Rabbi Yitzchok Weiss - The Spinker Rebbe (1875-1944)<br />Rabbi Mordechai Rottenberg - Rabbi of Antwerp (1872-1944)<br />Rabbi Ben Zion Halberstam - Grand Rabbi of Bobov (1874-1941)<br />* Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman - R' Yeshiva of Baranovitch (1875-1940)<br />Rabbi Shaul Brach - Rabbi of Kasho, Hungary (1865-1940)<br />Rabbi Chuna Halberstam - Kalashitzer Rebbe (d. 1940)<br />Rabbi Chaim Ozer Grodzinsky - Chief Rabbi of Vilna (1863-1940)<br />Rabbi Boruch Ber Leibowitz - R' Yeshiva of Kamenitz (1870-1939)<br />Rabbi Yisroel Hager - Grand Rabbi of Vizhnitz (1860-1936)<br />Rabbi Yosef Rosen - The Rogatchover Gaon (1858-1936)<br />Rabbi Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld - Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem (1848-1932)<br />* Rabbi Chaim Shaul Douek - Leader of the Sephardic Kabbalists of Jerusalem<br />* Rabbi Shlomo Eliezer Alfandri - Leader Sephardic community of Jerusalem (1826-1930)<br />Rabbi Yosef Leib Bloch - Rav and R' Yeshiva of Telshe (d. 1930)<br />Rabbi Solomon Breuer - Rav of Frankfurt (1850-1926)<br />* Rabbi Meir Simcha of Dvinsk - Author of Ohr Somayach (1843-1926)<br />Rabbi Shmuel Borenstein - Author of Shem Mishmuel (1856-1926)<br />Rabbi Yissachar Dov Rokeach - The Belzer Rebbe (1854-1925)<br />Rabbi Moshe Hager - The Kossover Rebbe (1860-1925)<br />Rashab Rabbi Sholom Ber Schneersohn - 5th Lubavitcher Rebbe (1860-1920)<br />Zichron Yehuda - Rabbi Yehuda Greenwald - Rav of Satmar, Hungary (1845-1920)<br />* Rabbi Chaim Soloveitchik - Rabbi of Brisk (1853-1918)<br />Chiashenover Rebbe - Rabbi Simcha Yissocher Ber Halberstam - (d. 1914)<br />Rabbi Eliyahu Chaim Meisel - Rabbi of Lodz (1821-1912)<br />* Rabbi Naftali Hermann Adler - Chief Rabbi of the U.K. (1839-1911)<br />Avnei Nezer - Rabbi Avraham Borenstein (1838-1910)<br />* Ben Ish Chai - Rabbi Yosef Chaim of Baghdad (1832-1909)<br />Rabbi Shmuel Salant- Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem (1816-1909)<br />* Sdei Chemed - Rabbi Chaim Chizkiyahu Medini (1833-1904) <br /> http://bariveshema.blogspot.com/2006/05/sephardic-rabbis-and-zionism_04.html?m=1 goombashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07637231380656103124noreply@blogger.com