tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post4788055462209462807..comments2024-03-28T17:05:31.717+02:00Comments on DUS IZ NIES !! Rare View...: The Campaign to Make "the monster Walder" a "Tzaddik" Has begun in Ernest Convincing Rav Rabbi Gershon Edelstein Dusiznieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-83967840076563077332021-12-30T13:47:56.262+02:002021-12-30T13:47:56.262+02:00Who knows if Rav Gershon was even told about the B...Who knows if Rav Gershon was even told about the Beis Din that heard 22 testimonies; he only knows what his close followers tell him. Who knows what he was toldShalomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16417908452989924375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-88948945070567989982021-12-29T09:34:13.049+02:002021-12-29T09:34:13.049+02:00Walder victim,
Shain geredt, very eloquent!
Chaz...Walder victim,<br /><br />Shain geredt, very eloquent!<br /><br />Chazak ve'ematz!Briskernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-82817234909763779072021-12-29T08:52:14.774+02:002021-12-29T08:52:14.774+02:00Walder did not only live with married women and ru...Walder did not only live with married women and ruin countless lives, he also raped young kids essentially killing them. The olam haba status of a rapist should be akin to one who publicly embarreses someone as both are ab act of murder. Thirdly, there is a concept in hilchos L”H of ‘sani shumanei’, a person who has multiple accusers that he transgressed a serious sin like arayos is allowed to be shunned publicly and one is allowed to believe the story. Furthermore, a beis din took trstimony and claims to have incontrovertible evidence implicating him on terrible sins. This is not a case of loshon Hora killing someone but a tragic story of a sick and dangerous person who sucked the soul out of his victims and couldn’t face the music when the time came to face the consequences for his actions. Gedalia ben Achikam got killed for not believing L”H and we are still reeling from that story till this day! Wake up!<br />Walder Victimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-14906902097217255322021-12-29T08:48:54.757+02:002021-12-29T08:48:54.757+02:00Rav Edelstein shlita may be unaware of the recordi...Rav Edelstein shlita may be unaware of the recording where Walder stated explicitly to a woman he had an affair with that he will kill himself if it becomes public. This was some time before he was subjected to public cancellation. So suicide was his plan all along — it was not the result of mental<br />Illness from intolerable humiliation, as difficult as that is for a rebbe to explain to talmidim. He led a double life for many years and grew increasingly emboldened when he realized he could get away with anything. But now his world was tumbling down, and he followed through on his plan. Coming clean and doing teshuva was not an option acceptable to him, though he encouraged exactly that in many of his stories. All those condemning the Zionist Rav Eliyahu for butting into the internal affairs of the Chareidi world should realize that he was begged to get involved because no Chareidi Beis Din would touch it. Rav Edelstein would do well to account for why Walder was not dealt with internally. Those in the Chareidi world (not CVS Rav Edelstein) who knew and had the opportunity to stop Walder but didn’t are guilty of destroying all those souls he ruined.Mrs Edelsteinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-45942294377643969052021-12-29T08:19:46.718+02:002021-12-29T08:19:46.718+02:007:12
One could argue that what R' Edelstein di...7:12<br />One could argue that what R' Edelstein did was even worse than what Walder did. Kids have to be told that if they are being touched even by a rebbe or by a therapist they should report it immediately,they should be told that Walder was a predator even though he was a therapist.Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-75663020954942894992021-12-29T07:12:44.139+02:002021-12-29T07:12:44.139+02:00Rabbi Ededstein was talking ONLY about what to say...Rabbi Ededstein was talking ONLY about what to say to kids. And only that. Kids are very bewildered by what happened. You can have your opinion of Chaim Walder, but best not try to explain that to kids. Lebidik Yankelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16536618308064241917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-47559686053384477972021-12-28T20:10:02.836+02:002021-12-28T20:10:02.836+02:00Well, well, well, rabbi avinar, who's Chas ves...Well, well, well, rabbi avinar, who's Chas veshalom not Hareidi thinks the same as Rav gershon, while Rav eliyahoo that was always considered an extremist attention seeker, argues<br /><br /><br /><br />Voice of reasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04093582226241398920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-15071619726921313402021-12-28T18:34:53.646+02:002021-12-28T18:34:53.646+02:00I am sitting on a story about Belz in Yerushalayim...I am sitting on a story about Belz in Yerushalayim that will make your hair fall out. I cannot post it because of the libel laws<br /><br />https://www.joe.co.uk/life/men-losing-hair-97157<br /><br />If you tip off bloggers like UOJ, they are outside the jurisdiction of Israel's censor.Face the Factshttps://www.joe.co.uk/life/men-losing-hair-97157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-59697191186238907322021-12-28T18:20:51.853+02:002021-12-28T18:20:51.853+02:00by the way i know about a scandal in Belz Komemiyu...by the way i know about a scandal in Belz Komemiyut, was not aware they are having issues in yerushamayim too.<br /><br />that is bad, it shows when they try to hush up a problem and don't deal with it it metastasizes and now they are having the same situation in yerushamayim.<br /><br />I hope they learn from their mistakes, to take accusations seriously and deal with a manageable problem before it blows up in their faces.<br /><br />nahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14291871203621364814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-83599259963967384852021-12-28T15:42:46.857+02:002021-12-28T15:42:46.857+02:00The swift, harsh public response to the Walder all...The swift, harsh public response to the Walder allegations is a warning to all of us that this behavior is as damaging as a nuclear blast. We owe it to each other to respect each other's spouses and children. The tragedy of Chaim Walder will teach us more than his books ever did. There is grotesque situation where youthful indiscretions of flirtatious and excitable young people are harshly punished, yet serial molestations are swept under the carpet. Parents of these scarred and broken children must be heard, along with the children themselves. If loud publicity doesn't get the message across I fear that vigilante justice, accompanied by poetically just anatomical modifications, may not be far off.Joe Magdeburgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00383910851117733282noreply@blogger.com