tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post1673405224800077430..comments2024-03-29T03:23:34.415+03:00Comments on DUS IZ NIES !! Rare View...: Walder Speaks ... ""Listen to me, if this [affair] is publicized I will shoot myself" then Kills HimselfDusiznieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-78701836787818703182022-01-02T06:23:07.721+02:002022-01-02T06:23:07.721+02:00I don’t know either way here but if dusiznias know...I don’t know either way here but if dusiznias knows a actual story personally about chaim walden maybe he should report it here with all the details and why didn’t he report it years ago when it happened or maybe he just found out would appreciate if you can clarify these pointsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-52624580024470293222021-12-28T21:31:37.912+02:002021-12-28T21:31:37.912+02:00Zako
DIN was conservative when he wrote hundreds, ...Zako<br />DIN was conservative when he wrote hundreds, because it's actually thousands.<br />Each victim has parents, siblings, children or a spouse and when one victim is traumatized because of abuse it effects the entire family. In Bnei-Brak, at least 7 families broke up because of this fiend and the Bnei-Brak rabbanim knew and know this. My very own grandchild was abused by this sickie when he was in camp, and he went OTD 10 years ago. The parents wouldn't believe him when he told his story, this was before people talked about this. <br />Rabbi Edelstein knows many other mechanchim that are abusers and he is terrified of the cork finally popping off so this statement by him is a warning to other victims to kept their mouths shut! What a sick world out there, and to think that there are supporters of this fiend commenting and doubting the veracity of his crimes is very disheartning!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-83387492481698655252021-12-28T21:02:33.091+02:002021-12-28T21:02:33.091+02:00Zako
Yes hundreds ..this has been going on for 25...Zako<br />Yes hundreds ..this has been going on for 25 years. A lady in my building was a victim of this pathetic monster.<br />Even if it was only one, he would be a monster.<br />It is tragic because now victims will be silenced because of people like you <br />The Rabbanim who said not a word about any of the victims are עתיד לתת דין וחשבין<br />Did Rabbi Edelstein ask to speak to any of the accusers? Did he? <br />This monster refused to go to Bais Din and he knew that the victims would not go to police and secular court and like the coward that he was, he killed himself so that they would also have guilt with no closure the killed by his son's kever to garner sympathy to continue to torment his victims . The world is far better without him.<br /><br /> Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-6006354246555559542021-12-28T19:45:03.504+02:002021-12-28T19:45:03.504+02:00To DIN
"Hundreds more" ? Who can beleive...To DIN<br />"Hundreds more" ? Who can beleive this for even one second ? That fabulation alone is sufficient to call this whole story a real bad sad tragic hoax.Zakonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-65396804537680597472021-12-28T18:51:06.200+02:002021-12-28T18:51:06.200+02:00Zako
Are you comparing a rumor to 22 victims with ...Zako<br />Are you comparing a rumor to 22 victims with recordings testifying in a Bais Din? <br />There were hundreds .... hundreds more that didn't come forward and didn't want their families destroyed. <br />The Eida Hacreidis banned his books a long time ago because they knew that he was a pervert and of course they didn't allow the women to go to the police.<br /><br />Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-17389522005137154292021-12-28T16:43:40.042+02:002021-12-28T16:43:40.042+02:00Orleans, France, 1971.
A widespread rumor broke ou...Orleans, France, 1971.<br />A widespread rumor broke out in the whole country. Jewish-owned dress shops in the city of Orleans were drugging their women customers and were abducting them into the white slave trade, smuggling them through tunnels under the shops. The media was at its highest. Some people even testified about a submarine navigating in the Loire river (technically impossible) and conveying the "slaves" towards the Atlantic ocean. The rumor was a fabrication: No woman had disappeared, but locals accepted the rumor at face value.<br /><br />Google / YouTube : Orleans rumorZakonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-65099294968245756802021-12-28T16:09:57.589+02:002021-12-28T16:09:57.589+02:00Anyone that might molest children (or anybody for ...Anyone that might molest children (or anybody for that matter) SHOULD better KILL HIMSELF than sexually abuse othersYanki L.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-77857089910114765482021-12-28T09:56:03.458+02:002021-12-28T09:56:03.458+02:00Because the Rabbi's said "How could you t...Because the Rabbi's said "How could you take away this great man's parnasah?"<br />So sad and so true.They want to beleive it didn't exist.<br />The victims have to live with this their entire life victimized twice.Once by Walder .Then by their own community.<br />Time to wake up!!!Happy Treehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11602755611075744147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-89879758100664182012021-12-28T06:56:53.511+02:002021-12-28T06:56:53.511+02:00Mendel - Which rabbanim knew about his abuse for y...Mendel - Which rabbanim knew about his abuse for years? And how do you know they knew?<br /><br />BB Neighbor - how long has this been an open secret? When did you know about it? If it was an open secret, why were people still going to him for therapy? I'm just confused about this timeline and what happened here.Curiousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-4017006747216770202021-12-27T23:51:06.039+02:002021-12-27T23:51:06.039+02:00Totally agree, the Rabbonim that knew about his ab...Totally agree, the Rabbonim that knew about his abuse for years also have a big part of responsibility for the victims, his death and the massive chilul hashem Mendelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14744835590197460213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-65684050524330089392021-12-27T23:46:41.779+02:002021-12-27T23:46:41.779+02:00Totally agree with you Totally agree with you Mendelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14744835590197460213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-77278807564984593512021-12-27T21:15:45.970+02:002021-12-27T21:15:45.970+02:00please post all information
re walder
I know he i...please post all information<br />re walder <br />I know he is dead<br />but his victims need to know we believe them<br />and the frum community needs to know that it is all true<br />including the recording or how you know <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-5634593938050536232021-12-27T19:57:12.971+02:002021-12-27T19:57:12.971+02:00Zako
Walder's suicide is tragic beyond words. ...Zako<br />Walder's suicide is tragic beyond words. A talented genius who could have used this moment to take responsibility and usher in a new era of safety for Chareidie children but instead chose to end his life in a petty ploy to torment his victims. I live in Bne Brak and I can tell you that there is a sigh of relief that he is gone. None of his victims would have ever gone to secular court because they would have had to leave the community, the fact that they went to a Sfardie Bais Din was because no Bais Din in town would take their case. The Police did open a case last week but no victim so far as we now know approached them. <br />Some of the victims will sue his estate so more info will come out as this unfolds<br />The Chillul Hashem is not even Walder's crimes, the Chillul Hashem is that there are people defending this Rasha Me'RushaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-68617550946022579262021-12-27T19:34:25.356+02:002021-12-27T19:34:25.356+02:00There were a lot more victims but only 22 came to ...There were a lot more victims but only 22 came to Bais Din. His crimes go back 25 years and here in Bnei-Brak this was an open secret. <br />Because chareidim by in large avoid social media and will not go to police, guys like Walder and Mashi Zehav get away with murder. Untold families were torn asunder because of this Walder and the after effects will not be known for years. <br />Interesting that the same people who rant against going to secular court are now defending Walder because the victims went to Bais Din instead, there is no satisfying defenders of rapists and molesters. <br />I wonder how they would feel if their own daughters were raped.Bnei-Brak Neighbornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-39876557923354378852021-12-27T19:22:34.067+02:002021-12-27T19:22:34.067+02:00Zako
The victims were all Chareidie and 21 lived i...Zako<br />The victims were all Chareidie and 21 lived in Bnei-Brak in his own community.<br />Chareidim are not allowed to go to secular courts or report abuse. Also at least 6 of them were married, they in fact testified in Bais Din in private as not wanting their husbands to find out.<br />The exact same thing happened with Mashi Zahav ...<br />There are now 3 Roshei Yeshiva facing rape and molestation charges, one of them had relations with his own daughters. Bais Din knew about this for years, it was only after his wife couldn't take it anymore that she went to police. <br />The Eida Hachreidis knew that Walder was a rapist years ago and banned his books, but they never explained why, as chareidim defend the rapists, molesters and let the victims get destroyed.<br /><br />Chareidim are defending Berland, a rapist and adulterer who was caught with his pants down screwing his closest Talmud's wife. Berland admitted in court all this yet he is being defended by Motta Frank and is visited by the Spinka Rebbe.<br /><br />Just yesterday, the victims of Walder testified in Rabbinical court and produced recordings of him begging one of his victims to keep quiet or he will have to shoot himself.<br /><br />I feel for his family but I feel more for his victims and the world is better off without him.<br /><br />Dusiznieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17159854165651441155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-91393364373027081562021-12-27T18:54:29.346+02:002021-12-27T18:54:29.346+02:00To LES AYM 4:00 PM
"How come there was no Is...To LES AYM 4:00 PM<br /><br />"How come there was no Israeli court case going on" ?<br />Precisely because there never was a single official complaint filed against him from any of the self-appointed victims. Not a single guilty plea or court case. Some book editors went public against him, and the media vultures finished the job.Zakonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2633952367455665536.post-33838563459786831722021-12-27T16:00:48.513+02:002021-12-27T16:00:48.513+02:00I'm glad a beis din was taking this seriously,...I'm glad a beis din was taking this seriously, but how come there was no Israeli court case going on, which would've had the power to imprison him, unlike a beis din?LES AYMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04880978263964334145noreply@blogger.com