I am not at all surprised, the Holocaust is not taught in Yeshivois and they would never go to Yad Ve'shem. Their Roshei Yeshiva state during the 9 days that Jewish children in uniform are "murderers" and "rashaim" and curse Dati-Leumi Gedoilim that encourage learning Torah and serving.
They do not even recognize the State they live in, and the State that gives them benefits!
They do not believe that October 7 war was a war of defense, they believe "that Israel went to war to glorify the State!" A totally insane perspective! That shows total disconnect , ignorance and empathy of their own brethren that were raped, beheaded, burned and murdered,
So why should anybody be surprised when they say that they would prefer being in Auschwitz than enlisting! At the same time they make massive protests when one of the draft evaders goes to a Jewish prison.
Bunch of double talk coming straight from the top, and it stinks!
According to ALL Gedoilim that experienced the concentration camps, this was the worse tragedy to have occurred to the Jewish people in its entire history and they are including the destruction of Bais Hamikdash!
Eirev Rav. They should be careful what they wish for, words have power.
ReplyDeleteCult members behaving like cultists, led by morally ambiguous reshoim.. Whatever religion they practice, it is certainly not Judaism.
ReplyDeleteIf only they'd taste a bit of what that suffering was, maybe they'd shut their mouths.
ReplyDeleteDIN lies on so many levels. The last paragraph is also not true. Gedolim say Tach Vetat was worse than the Holocaust but don’t let DIN get confused by the simple math of proportions
ReplyDelete4:28
DeleteYou are obviously a troll! The Kloizinberger Rebbe who lost a wife and 11 children said that! Even the Satmar Rebbe says that in his hakdama to the Al Hagila!
Those "ketanim" that say "Tach Vetat" was worse than the Holocaust" are unmitigated liars.
The accepted historical estimate of how many Jews were murdered during the Tach Vetat is 100,000 whereas in the Holocaust was 6 million!
≈ 100,000 Jews murdered
Maybe R’ Yoel said that because Zionists aided & abetted Eichman. The 1648 proportion thing is brought by the Ramchal bsheim Rav Shimshon Ostropoli
ReplyDelete4:43
DeleteI'm surprised you brought down the Ramchal... didn't he shave? Don't you creepy Yeshivishe amaratzim consider a Rav who shaves an Apikoras?
Then R’ Yoel shouldn’t have gotten on the Zionist Kastner train. Hypocrite.
DeleteDo you mean the satmar hypocritical shit who left all his chasidim behind to die and fled using help from a hated zionist. Imagine all of the cult of satmar are hre because of a zionist but are too ungrateful, selfish and in denial to acknowledge facts
DeleteWell written, and I get your points,
ReplyDeleteI am staying in the USA until השם sends משיח to take us out from גלות
Do I feel as safe in New York now as 10 years ago NO, is it safer now then in Mayor Dinkins times, YES
Now I wonder,
(1) do you the שנאה between חרדים and the secular
Worst then 10 years ago?
(2) Are more חרדים arrested in New York or Isreal, for not joining the military
(3)In the last 5 years, where were more jews killed, in Israel or the whole world combined
(4) we here live with the experience of our parents in the gas chambers and know if משיח doesn't come soon enough, we might have to run, if חס ושלום, Iran ימ"ש gets atomic bomb, where are you running ???
אם לא ישמור עיר השם
שוא שקד שומר
We pray for the yiden in ירושלים, USA, and the world
Naftuli
DeleteWhere have I heard your comment "I am staying in the USA until השם sends משיח to take us out from גלות" before?
Oh I remember now..those who had visas prior ww2 but steadfastly refused to leave!
1) The "secular" living in Israel now have more zechusim than you, that is over a Mitzvas Esseh De'Oriisah according to the Ramban and the Ohr Hachyim Hakodosh!
2)Charedim haven't been arrested in NY yet, but are being stabbed and murdered!
3) Since Israel has been in existence, fewer Jews have been killed than at any time in Jewish history , there are people still alive who remember that 6 million Jews were brutally murdered in Europe, and yet not one Jew who lived in Israel was touched.
4) You are going to run to the Zionist State of Israel and you had better pray that Israel has an army !
Hey DIN , you think that in Israel you are safe? I hope you are safe in Israel and im safe in the USA, we have been expelled from the whole world including twice from ארץ ישראל,
DeleteUntil the גאולה שלימה במהירה, we need רחמי שמים to survive, in the USA from Mamdani and and and,
In Israel from a Iranian atom bomb, from hamas,hizballah, plo, and numerous Arab countries, and to get you going in Israel from the zionist government arresting and harassing jewish boys with prison
אם לא ישמור עיר השם שוא שקד שומר
___________<_<
כוחי ועוצם ידי is not an option
1 more point, according to you, if/when i have to run, ill go to Israel, (I have 2 other passports to run if not to late) but חס ושלום you have to run from a atomic bomb threat, where will you and millions more run too??? In short notice
Deleteהשם ירחם
And as they say in your 770
WE WANT משיח NOW
Naftuli 9:09
DeleteWe will never be expelled from Eretz Yisrael again as we have an havtacha from the Navie
וּנְטַעְתִּ֖ים עַל־אַדְמָתָ֑ם וְלֹ֨א יִנָּתְשׁ֜וּ ע֗וֹד מֵעַ֤ל אַדְמָתָם֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר נָתַ֣תִּי לָהֶ֔ם אָמַ֖ר הֹ אֱלֹהֶֽיךָ׃
We in Israel even the Chilonim are not at all frightened by an atomic bomb,
אֶ֕רֶץ אֲשֶׁר־יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֶ֖יךָ דֹּרֵ֣שׁ אֹתָ֑הּ תָּמִ֗יד עֵינֵ֨י יְהֹוָ֤ה אֱלֹהֶ֙יךָ֙ בָּ֔הּ מֵֽרֵשִׁית֙ הַשָּׁנָ֔ה וְעַ֖ד אַחֲרִ֥ית שָׁנָֽה׃
Naftali 9:15
We here in Israel are not running anywhere; across the street from my home they built homes in the past 3 years for over 5,000 families, most of the homes have been bought by new Olim, so no frum believing Jew thinks like you, there has been a tremendous upsurge in Oilim since Oct 7, meaning, that Jews all over the world believe that no matter what happens in Israel they are safer there.
The הבטחה, וּנְטַעְתִּ֖ים עַל־אַדְמָתָ֑ם וְלֹ֨א יִנָּתְשׁ֜וּ ע֗וֹד מֵעַ֤ל
Deleteאַדְמָתָם֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר נָתַ֣תִּי לָהֶ֔ם אָמַ֖ר ה
Is only after משיח coming
The difference is, we know we might have to run,
The Israeli is living the pre 1939 mentality "we are safe "
חס וחלילה
1 atomic bomb, and the jews of America might not be able to help you,
Of course you did NOT give up your us passports!!!
Naftuli
DeleteThat is actually NOT TRUE! Because as you see the other havtachas have already been fulfilled
שַׁבְתִּי֮ אֶת־שְׁב֣וּת עַמִּ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵל֒ וּבָנ֞וּ עָרִ֤ים נְשַׁמּוֹת֙ וְיָשָׁ֔בוּ וְנָטְע֣וּ כְרָמִ֔ים וְשָׁת֖וּ אֶת־יֵינָ֑ם וְעָשׂ֣וּ גַנּ֔וֹת וְאָכְל֖וּ אֶת־פְּרִיהֶֽם
and
כֹּ֤ה אָמַר֙ יְהֹוָ֣ה צְבָא֔וֹת עֹ֤ד יֵֽשְׁבוּ֙ זְקֵנִ֣ים וּזְקֵנ֔וֹת בִּרְחֹב֖וֹת יְרוּשָׁלָ֑͏ִם וְאִ֧ישׁ מִשְׁעַנְתּ֛וֹ בְּיָד֖וֹ מֵרֹ֥ב יָמִֽים׃
וּרְחֹב֤וֹת הָעִיר֙ יִמָּ֣לְא֔וּ יְלָדִ֖ים וִֽילָד֑וֹת מְשַׂחֲקִ֖ים בִּרְחֹֽבֹתֶֽיהָ׃
All those prophesies have already come through and this
is before Moshiach
so you now put in your very own pshat and you decided because of your misguided SHIT"ah to separate the prophesies
The facts are that the neviiem have already prophesized that Jews will only be expelled two times from Eretz Yisrael, no where does it state that it will happen more than those two times.
We here in Israel, including those that you call Chilonim feel very safe here in Israel and we are not all worried about an atomic bomb, and if Iran would launch an Atomic Missile you in America will turn to dust as the entire world will be involved
The Israeli passport currently ranks as one of the strongest in the world. I actually never use my American passport when traveling. I didn't give it up, I didn't give up my American accent either.
This is all on the "gedolim". Aka pieces of shit in lashon kodesh. They created this monster.
ReplyDeleteהקדוש ברוך ישלם שכרם
Undeserving of any respect.
no chasidish amaratzim, most roshey yeshiva shaved when they were younger
ReplyDelete10:38
DeleteThey weren't RY when they were shaving and younger, That's in is the crucial difference.
It's you who sounds like a pretty grubba am haaretz right now. Like you don't know that there is a shita of the Medieval Italki Mekubolim to shave which is not criticized by the rest of the oylam Hatorah even though they do not personally shave? Rav Sroya Deblitzky ztl was a recent gadol who after delving into the sifrei Italki Mekobolim adopted their shitos. But someone has to be on a high madreigah to shave for that reason. They can't be just any Schmo or DIN out there
ReplyDeleteThis is the most comical comment I have read in a long time, trying to twist yourself into a pretzel to explain why the Mesilas Yesharim shaved!
DeleteYou scribble:
" is a shita of the Medieval Italki Mekubolim to shave which is not criticized by the rest of the oylam Hatorah even though they do not personally shave"
That is so crazy that it borders on insanity!
They don't shave but they refuse to condemn their fellow mekubal that did in fact shave!
This is exactly my point about Chardeim
They have a RY of Slabodka that during the 9 days called other Frum Jews "Rashaim" and " Murderers" and yet they say that "we don't really understand what he said!
Crazy!
Then to bolster your insanity, you write:
" someone has to be on a high madreigah to shave for that reason. "
"high madreiga to shave" I guess the Chazaon Ish and the Steiple and now Rav Landau are not "on that madreigah"
Guys
I swear they need to be institutionalized; instead they walk the streets and comment on DIN
I really got to get out of here!
Koifer vos du bist! For this reason alone that you mock echte Mekubolim, you takka need to get out of here & I hope the door slams your rear end on the way out. It’s you who twists things to create a falshe pirud mit Chazon Ish. This is like the chiyuv to eat meat on Shabbos but etlicher gedolim are allowed to skip it for reasons al pi Soid. The gedolim you mockingly list continued eating fleish but others stopped, including even R’ Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz. Chazon Ish never criticized him just like he was fine with Rav Deblitzky who was actually close to him! Boy do you look foolish! Thanks for picking the one example that leaves you & your shtussim upgeshlogt! One thing is for sure, the Chazon Ish would never accept your krumkeiten while he accepted the above mentioned tayereh gedolim. You are DIN who never admits you lose an argument. You will just create more distractions & letzonus against anyone you disagree with
Delete3:39
DeleteThe only reason I'm here is to get in your hair. From what I gather from your comments, is that you are a yeshivishe "uop'gerissiner naar" and a big amhaaretz to boot!
After I pointed out that the Mesilas Yesharim , shaved, you came up with a made-up pshat that one "has to be in a very high madreiga to shave, since you believe erroneously believe that shaving has some kabbalistic significance! So I pointed out that according to your twisted logic the Chazon Ish and the Steipler could not have been on a high madreiga since they didn't shave.
Your logic is unadulterated insanity !
Now I'll let you into a secret, the Ramchal himself states why he shaved and that's why the entire world knows that he shaved, and guess what? It has nothing to do with Kabbala! Nothing! Zilch! Nada!
The reason he shaved was because in his days the priests grew beards, and so some of the Gedoilim of the time decided to do the opposite and shave!
So I would advise you to shut up before you put your smelly foot into your mouth again
So why dont they go back to Auschwitz /Poland and leave Israel to those who love it?
ReplyDeleteJust because Ramchal didn’t want to look like Galochim does not negate an additional reason. People used to ask all the time if R’ Soraya is a gadol what’s with his beard? He was noiheg like Mekubolei Italia who had their own method in Nistar anderish fun Kaf Hachaim who warns about gilgul parah for those who shave. Speaking of these inyanim, I wonder how DIN behaved in a previous life that he acts vee a Ferd in this incarnation! (With smelly HOOVES in zein pisk)
ReplyDeleteHey is for hoese
DeleteI caught you by your made-up reason why the Ramchal shaved so now you say there was another reason, and that other reason is the one you made up!
If there was a "kabbalistic reason why he shaved" the Ramchal would have told us, but all he wrote was the reason I gave you, but you like the meshiginar that you are to make up some "kabbalistic high madreiga" for shaving
Pure insanity!
This discussion is over, my father z"l told me not to engage with fools!